Title: Justifications for Capital Punishment Part I
1Justifications for Capital Punishment (Part I)
CJ 4530, The Death Penalty Appalachian State
University Dr. Matthew Robinson
2 Retribution
- The first is private but the second is public
- The first is not justified by law but the second
is justified - The first entails the offender being paid back by
the victim but the second entails the offender
paying back society - The first is only a natural emotion rooted in our
biology but the second is also about socialization
- There are at least two meanings
- 1) emotional response aimed at getting even
(vengeance or just desserts) - 2) rational response aimed at righting a wrong
(retribution or justice)
3Retribution and Public Support
- Historically, retribution is the highest reason
cited in public opinion polls as to why people
favor capital punishment - (to get even with offenders, they deserve it, a
life for a life, etc.)
4Key facts to remember up front
- Only 1 of street killers actually get the death
penalty - LITERALLY NO white-collar / corporate offenders
get the death penalty - Thus, we FAIL to provide retribution by using the
death penalty ... - or is some justice better than none?
5How does the class feel about DEATH for the sake
of vengeance?
- Many say that the intentional taking of life by
the government should be based more on reason
than on emotion - Plus, murder is a crime against the government
and the government has no emotion - Does the state have the responsibility to make
victims feel better?
6Is there really vengeance?
- Murderers are now executed using lethal injection
(much easier than their heinous crimes) - And, we do not give other types of offenders
punishment that equals their crimes (e.g., burn
homes of arsonists, rape rapists, take cars of
car thieves, rob robbers, etc.) - So do we ever really get even with them?
7How does the class feel about DEATH for the sake
of retribution?
- Many suggest we could balance the scales of
justice with another form of punishment (e.g.,
life imprisonment without possibility of parole)
and still get even - (This is what we mostly do now for 99 of
murderers) - This also prevents harms suffered by families of
murderers (which is startlingly like that of
murder victims families)
8Death penalty supporters say ...
- There is no doubt that murderers deserve to die.
- Murder is the ultimate crime which calls for the
ultimate punishment. - Currently the death penalty is the ultimate
punishment in 38 American jurisdictions. - Key question assuming murderers merit death,
does the government have the responsibility to
carry it out? or is it just their right?
9What do the experts say???
10- Does capital punishment, as actually practiced in
the United States, achieve retribution (i.e.,
provide justice for murder victims, their
families, and society at large)? - Yes 31
- No 36
- Unsure 33
- N 42
11- The death penalty is imposed far too
infrequently and illogically to serve as
retribution. - At the present time, capital punishment is
utilized far too infrequently to provide justice
for more than a few murder victims and their
families.
12- Capital punishment might provide retribution for
families of murder victims, but it cant for
broader society. No social science evidence to
suggest that it has any 'therapeutic' value for
anyone. - There is no retribution possible after a murder
because the scales of justice can never be
balanced. No amount of punishment will redeem
the value of the dead victim.
13- Research indicates many families still feel
sorrow and have no sense of closure. What is
needed is counseling for the families and friends
of murder victims. Additionally, retribution is
not a good goal for society. The offender can be
punished and society protected by using LWOP.
14- This is a difficult question to answer because
it is to some degree a matter of opinion. I
expect that there are families of murder victims
who do feel that the execution of the perpetrator
provided justice for them. Others feel the
precise opposite. In a broader sense, the
failings of the criminal justice system and the
inequities of society at large make it unlikely
that any punishment could be imposed in a way
that provided retribution. In an ideal society
in which burdens and benefits were distributed
solely on the basis of merit, the situation might
be different. Given the system we have and the
propensity of humans to error, it is impossible
that we can impose death sentences in a just way,
making it impossible that we can achieve justice
through this punishment.
15- I dont think retribution is an appropriate
motivation for punishment. How can you make
things right for someone who is dead? You
cannot. That is nonsense. It is also highly
variable as to how well the families are served.
Many think that it will bring closure, but it
usually does not. Others are more victimized by
the death penalty than served. Many families of
victims oppose capital punishment. None benefit
from going through the repeated cycles of the
appeals process and concurrent media attention.
As for society, I think it feeds into a very
negative part of our psyche, feeds our
aggression. Furthermore, it creates a new class
of victims friends and families of the accused
as well as those working within the system.
16- Of course, I can't speak for any particular
murder victims or their families, so this is a
tough question to answer. In the broader sense,
I don't think the death penalty serves these
populations well at all. It may indeed achieve
some sense of revenge or retribution for some
co-victims or some members of society at large,
but it certainly does not for others. The bigger
question is Is serving this form of revenge
constructive or destructive for these individuals
(or society at large)? My answer to this would
be that it is destructive.
17- The wording of your question implies that
retribution (i.e., a paying of tribute,
something given or exacted in recompense, as my
Websters has it) is justice a life for a life.
Im sure youre aware that this model of justice
is only one of several proposed by criminologists
and sociologists. I dont think the retributive
model is the most constructive one. It throws
away a human life and makes killers of every
citizen of the polity -- man, woman, and child.
At the same time, the way execution is handled
distances us from what our political and
enforcement representatives are doing in our
name. Last, retribution encourages us to believe
that meting out punishment is a transparent
process, potentially a simple one. Our
retributive system hides the realities, including
but not limited to the prevalence of plea
bargaining, the inequalities of legal
representation, and the numerical tokenism of the
death penalty.
18- In some cases it clearly does.
- Sporadically so, for some.
- It does in some cases but fails to do so in many
cases. - Of the various historical, economical,
political, ideological, and practical arguments
made by those who favor capital punishment,
retribution is the ONLY issue supported by
empirical evidence that is, when analyzed by the
totally of events, circumstances, and experiences
of the offender, victim, legal system, and
society. - It is an emotional response to the horrific
crime of murder.
19- By retribution, I mean taking from the
criminal the advantage he has unfairly taken by
committing the crime in question. Any penalty
assigned according the principles of reasonably
just legal system ... will do that (the death
penalty as much as any human penalty). Justice
for the victims or families is a civil matter for
which a tort claim is the appropriate remedy it
is a matter of compensation rather than
retribution. Criminal justice is retribution
(with or without clemency).
20- I would think the death penalty does provide
for retribution, but the delay in actually
carrying out the execution may serve to lessen
any retributive effect. - To a limited extent. Because of its
uncertainties and delays, it is often uncertain
as to if and when families of victims will
receive the sense of completion that an execution
sometimes brings.
21- It can reasonably be argued that death for
murder is a morally just punishment. It is not
the only morally just punishment, but it is one. - Yes it may achieve retribution for murder
victims some families but life imprisonment
without parole (LWOP) would also severe
retribution (I feel).
22- It depends on whether you consider retribution
to be a subjective experience or an objectively
identifiable phenomenon. We know that many
victims' families are not satisfied with capital
punishment while others are satisfied by a life
sentence. I am not sure what people (i.e.,
politicians) mean when they say a punishment must
be consistent with the wishes of the community.
Who is this 'community'? How does a prosecutor
or judge or politician know what the will of the
people is other than a survey/poll that shows a
majority opinion? I am not sure that making
justice decisions upon the majority opinion is
always the best policy.).
23- You can argue this point both ways in some
cases it has brought 'closure.' Many people
maintain that retribution requires the death
penalty. I would argue that a life sentence
achieves retribution without risking the
execution of an innocent person. Besides, and to
my point about victims' families, that most
people 'feel' a sense of retribution does not
justify the use of the death penalty. - I suppose it achieves retribution for some
victims' families, but other victims' families
don't necessarily want retribution it won't
bring their loved ones back and, once the
offender is dead, closure may not necessarily
follow. It is a desire to see someone pay for
their actions, and all of us feel this way at one
time or another. However, I am not sure the
death penalty is the way to do it.
24- Probably some murder victims' families and some
members of society think so, but non-death
penalty jurisdictions (both inside outside the
U.S.) are apparently able to achieve justice
without capital punishment.
25Retribution and Religion
26Retribution and Religion
27Retribution and Religion
- According to studies of the Bible, there is NO
CLEAR answer about whether capital punishment is
a good idea according to GOD - Who is the closest person to GOD? ... What does
he say? - How many religious organizations favor and oppose
capital punishment? - http//www.deathpenaltyreligious.org/education.htm
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28What about the Bible?
- The Bible was changed just to suit King James,
many empty lies he say, she say, me say, we
say, John public blind people wont know the
truth today
29Assuming the Bible is Gods word what does it
say?
- http//www.justiceblind.com/death/johnson.htm
- Johnson examines 5 versions of Bible looking for
- 1) pro-capital punishment statements
- 2) anti-capital punishment statements
- 3) what happened to murderers in the Bible
- Conclusions include
- There is no clear Biblical mandate for death
penalty - All sides can find support for their arguments
- More support for death penalty in Old Testament
- New Testament does not refute it explicitly but
is less supportive of it - Only 4 of 22 murderers in Bible are executed
30Does this story of Jesus stand out?
- Now early in the morning he came again into the
temple, and all the people came to him and he
sat down and taught them. Then the Scribes and
Pharisees brought to him a woman caught in
adultery. And when they sat her in the midst,
they said to him, Teacher, this woman was caught
in adultery, in the very act. Now Moses, in the
law, commanded us that such should be stoned. But
what do you say? This they said, testing him,
that they might have something of which to accuse
him. But Jesus stooped down and wrote on the
ground with his finger, as though he did not
hear. So when they continued asking him, he
raised himself up and said to them, He who is
without sin among you, let him throw a stone at
her first. And again he stooped down and wrote
on the ground. Then those who heard it, being
convicted by their conscience, went out one by
one, beginning with the oldest even unto the
last. And Jesus was left alone, and the woman
standing alone in the midst. When Jesus has
raised himself up and saw no one but the woman,
he said to her, Woman, where are those accusers
of yours? Has no one condemned you? She said,
No one Lord. And Jesus said to her, Neither do
I condemn you go and sin no more. (John 81-11)
31Ironies
- If religion is so important to people, why do
most people support capital punishment? - If the New Testament (and Jesus, son of God)
preaches love your enemy and forgive those who
trespass against you and turn the other cheek,
is Old Testament even relevant? - Most religious organizations TODAY are against
capital punishment