Title: Time Horizons in Interdependent Security
1Time Horizons in Interdependent Security
- David Hardisty, Howard Kunreuther, David Krantz,
Poonam Arora - Columbia University
International Conference on Social
Dilemmas Kyoto, Japan August 24, 2009
2Co-Authors
Howard Kunreuther
Dave Krantz
Poonam Arora
- NSF Grants SES-0345840 SES-0820496
3IDS Background
- Interdependent Security (IDS) is a social dilemma
with stochastic losses - examples
- border security
- pest/disease control
- risky investment
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5Thank You ICSD 2009 Organizing Committee
- Satoshi Fujii
- Toshio Yamagishi
- Tsuyoshi Hatori
- Akira Kikuchi
- Haruna Suzuki
6Previous Findings on IDS
- Individuals cooperate less in IDS than in a
typical repeated PD (Kunreuther et al, in press) - However groups cooperate more in IDS (Gong, Baron
Kunreuther, in preparation)
7Research Motivation (1)
- Previous studies used probabilities of 20 to 80
- Real life risks are often much lower
8Research Motivation (2)
- In real life, players often precommit their
strategy (whether to invest in protection) for
several years in advance at a time - example CO2 reductions
9Research Motivation (2)
- Normally, greater delay is associated with
increased uncertainty - example 10 promised today or in 20 years
- However, with repeated low probability events,
increasing time horizon may increase subjective
probability - example chance of fire today or in the next 20
years
10Study 1
- Question 1 Do previous findings of low (30)
cooperation under uncertainty hold with low
probabilities? Or will it be even lower? - Question 2 Does precommitment raise investment
rates?
11IDS instructions (pg 1)
- Scenario Imagine you are an investor in
Indonesia and you have a risky joint venture that
earns 8,500 Rp per year. However, there is a
small chance that you and/or your counterpart
will suffer a loss of 40,000 Rp in a given year.
You have the option to pay 1,400 Rp for a safety
measure each year to protect against the possible
loss. However, you will only be fully protected
if both you and your counterpart invest in
protection. The loss has an equal chance of
happening each year, regardless of whether it
occurred in the previous year.
12IDS payoff matrix
Your Counterpart Your Counterpart
INVEST NOT INVEST
You INVEST - You definitely lose 1,400 Rp, and have a 0 chance of the large loss occurring.- Your counterpart definitely loses 1,400 Rp, and has a 0 chance of the large loss occurring. - You definitely lose 1,400 Rp and have a 1 chance of losing an additional 40,000 Rp.- Your counterpart has a 3 chance of losing 40,000 Rp and a 97 chance of losing 0 Rp.
You NOT INVEST - You have a 3 chance of losing 40,000 Rp and a 97 chance of losing 0 Rp.- Your counterpart definitely loses 1,400 Rp and has a 1 chance of losing an additional 40,000 Rp. - You have a 4 chance of losing 40,000 Rp and a 96 chance of losing 0 Rp.- Your counterpart has a 4 chance of losing 40,000 Rp and a 96 chance of losing 0 Rp.
13PD payoff matrix
Your Counterpart Your Counterpart
INVEST NOT INVEST
You INVEST - You lose 1,400 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,400 Rp. - You lose 1,800 Rp. - Your counterpart loses 1,200 Rp.
You NOT INVEST - You lose 1,200 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,800 Rp. - You lose 1,600 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,600 Rp.
14IDS Choices
- Will you invest in protection this year?
- INVEST NOT INVEST
- Do you think your counterpart will invest in
protection this year? - DEFINITELY PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT DEFINITELY
NOT
15Precommitted Condition
- Will you invest in protection in year 1?
- INVEST NOT INVEST
- Do you think your counterpart will invest in
protection in year 1? - DEFINITELY PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT DEFINITELY
NOT
Will you invest in
protection in year 2? - INVEST NOT INVEST
- Do you think your counterpart will invest in
protection in year 2? - DEFINITELY PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT DEFINITELY
NOT
... - Will you invest in protection in year 20?
- INVEST NOT INVEST
- Do you think your counterpart will invest in
protection in year 20? - DEFINITELY PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT DEFINITELY
NOT
16Feedback
- Year 1 Results
- Your choice INVEST
- Your counterpart's choice NOT INVEST
- The random number was 88
- This Means
- For you, the large loss did not occur
- For your counterpart, the large loss did not
occur - Result You lost 1,400 Rp, and your counterpart
lost 0 Rp
17Design Details
- participants played blocks of 20 rounds (years)
with an anonymous partner - 4 blocks total
- random pairing before each block
- 1 block paid out for real money
- all manipulations between subject, 30 subjects
per group
18PD vs IDS
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
PD rep
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
19PD vs IDS
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
PD rep
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
20PD vs IDS
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
PD rep
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
21Conclusion 1
- Uncertainty lowers cooperation between
individuals playing loss framed dilemma - Why? - Perhaps uncertainty makes players more
greedy (Johansson Svedsater, yesterday)-
Perhaps uncertainty transforms the game from a
social dilemma to a game of chance
22IDS repeated vs precommitted
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
IDS pre
PD rep
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
23IDS repeated vs precommitted
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
IDS pre
PD rep
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
24Conclusion 2
- Under uncertainty, precommitment raises
cooperation - Why? Perhaps precommitment raises subjective
probability of the loss
25Precommitted Participants Estimated Higher
Cumulative Probability
26Interesting results, but a major confound
27Study 2
- Question Do individuals playing a (non-dilemma)
solo game invest more often when precommitting?
28Solo payoff matrix
INVEST - You definitely lose 1,400 Rp, and have a 0 chance of the large loss occurring.
NOT INVEST - You have a 4 chance of losing 40,000 Rp and a 96 chance of losing 0 Rp.
29IDS repeated vs Solo repeated
30IDS repeated vs Solo repeated
31Conclusion 3
- IDS players are mostly playing a game of chance,
showing risk-seeking for losses
32Support 3
33Solo repeated vs precommited
34Solo repeated vs precommited
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
IDS rep
IDS pre
Investment Proportion
0.5
Solo rep
0.4
Solo pre
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
35Conclusion 4
- Precommitment raises investment rates by
individuals - Why? Perhaps subjective probability is increased
36How else can we improve investment under
uncertainty?
- Perhaps environmental framing can highlight
social goals and raise investment rates - However, earlier results are mixed
37Study 3
- Question Will environmental framing will
increase investment rates?
38IDS environmental instructions
- Scenario Imagine you are a farmer in Indonesia.
You get an annual yield of 8,500 Rupiah (Rp) from
your potato crops. Both you and a neighboring
farmer use the pesticide Aldicarb on your potato
crops. However, there is a small risk of
groundwater contamination each year from this
pesticide, which is toxic. If contamination
occurs, you and/or your neighboring farmer will
suffer a loss of 40,000 Rp, to pay for
groundwater cleanup. You have the option to
switch to a more expensive, though safer,
pesticide, at the cost of 1,400 Rp annually, to
avoid groundwater contamination. However, you
will only be fully protected if both you and your
counterpart invest in the safer pesticide. The
groundwater contamination has an equal chance of
happening each year, regardless of whether it
occurred in the previous year.
39IDS environmental payoff matrix
Your Counterpart Your Counterpart
INVEST NOT INVEST
You INVEST - You definitely lose 1,400 Rp, and have a 0 chance of groundwater contamination.- Your counterpart definitely loses 1,400 Rp, and has a 0 chance of groundwater contamination. - You definitely lose 1,400 Rp and have a 1 chance of groundwater contamination occuring and losing an additional 40,000 Rp.- Your counterpart has a 3 chance of losing 40,000 Rp due to groundwater contamination and a 97 chance of losing 0 Rp.
You NOT INVEST - You have a 3 chance of losing 40,000 Rp due to groundwater contamination and a 97 chance of losing 0 Rp.- Your counterpart definitely loses 1,400 Rp and has a 1 chance of groundwater contamination occuring and losing an additional 40,000 Rp. - You have a 4 chance of groundwater contamination occurring and losing 40,000 Rp and a 96 chance of losing 0 Rp.- Your counterpart has a 4 chance of groundwater contamination occurring and losing 40,000 Rp and a 96 chance of losing 0 Rp.
40IDS Environmental Choices
- Will you invest in the safer pesticide this year?
- INVEST NOT INVEST
- Do you think your counterpart will invest in the
safer pesticide this year? - DEFINITELY PROBABLY PROBABLY NOT DEFINITELY
NOT
41Feedback
- Year 1 Results
- Your choice INVEST
- Your counterpart's choice NOT INVEST
- The random number was 88
- This Means
- For you, groundwater contamination did not occur
- For your counterpart, groundwater contamination
did not occur - Result You lost 1,400 Rp, and your counterpart
lost 0 Rp
42Environmental Frame Results
43Environmental Frame Results
44Environmental Frame Results
45Conclusion 5
- Environmental framing may not have a significant
effect on investment rates
46Study 4
- Question How does precommitment affect
investment rates in a deterministic prisoners
dilemma
47IDD payoff matrix
Your Counterpart Your Counterpart
INVEST NOT INVEST
You INVEST - You lose 1,400 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,400 Rp. - You lose 1,800 Rp. - Your counterpart loses 1,200 Rp.
You NOT INVEST - You lose 1,200 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,800 Rp. - You lose 1,600 Rp.- Your counterpart loses 1,600 Rp.
48PD Repeated vs Precommitted
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
PD rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
PD pre
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
49PD Repeated vs Precommitted
1
0.9
0.8
0.7
0.6
PD rep
Investment Proportion
0.5
PD pre
0.4
0.3
0.2
0.1
0
Block 1
Block 2
Block 3
Block 4
50Conclusion 6
- Precommitment reduces investment rates in
deterministic social dilemmas - Why? Perhaps individuals realize there is no
opportunity for reciprocity and are worried about
being a sucker
51Summary
- Precommitment lowers cooperation in regular
prisoners dilemma, but raises it in
interdependent security situations - Why? In IDS, precommitment raises subjective
probability of loss, but in the deterministic
case it removes the possibility of reciprocity
52Thank You!
53References
- Gong, M. J. Baron and H. Kunreuther (2008). Group
Cooperation under Uncertainty. Wharton Risk
Center Working Paper 2008-11-24 - Kunreuther, H., G. Silvasi, E. Bradlow, and D.
Small (in press). Deterministic and Stochastic
Prisoner's Dilemma Games Experiments in
Interdependent Security. Judgment and Decision
Making. - Xiao, Erte Kunreuther, H. (in preparation).
Punishment and Cooperation in Stochastic Social
Dilemmas.
54Questions
- Do you believe the risk perception story?
- What new conditions would be most interesting?
All-or-nothing precommitment? Group play? Change
the payoffs (so non-investment dominates)? - What journals do you recommend publishing in?
- What are the biggest holes in this story?
55What about individual differences?
56Comprehensive Health Insurance
57Gender
58Gender
59First-Round Comparison
60Overall Comparison
6120-Round Profile
6280 Round Profile
63What did people say?
64IDS - Repeated
- The probability of loosing was too low so I
didn't decide to invest. - For the most part, it seemed better NOT to invest
than to invest. I found that the initial 1-5
years influenced how I invested in the remaining
15 years. So if I mainly did NOT invest the first
5 years, then I didn't invest for the remaining
15 years. I also found that my partner followed
how I invested if I had no losses. - I chose not to invest dut to low probality of
loss - It was a little intimidating, but after awhile an
understanding occurred between myself and my
partner and we flowed fairly well over the years. - I chose to invest in the beginning so I wouldn't
end up with negative numbers. Afterwards, I chose
not to invest because I figured the chances of
losing 40,000 were small, and even if I lost the
money once, I would probably not lose it again in
the 20 year span.
65IDS - Precommitted
- I chose to invest almost all 20 times except for
one or 2 years to make an extra bonus - An interesting game where I can observe that some
people do take risks. I chose to invest in every
year and every scenario since statistically it
makes more sense to invest in protection. The
loss is big compared to the amount spent on
protection and there is an average of more than
one occurrence of loss in a 20 year period even
if only one person invests. - I invested too many times the first round, and
when I saw that my partner rarely invested and
suffered little losses, I invested less as well
by the next round. I felt rather smug when he/she
lost 40k while I invested-- but I thought it was
interesting that I invested a lot more often than
most of my counterparts. - Initially I was just playing it safe, and then
for the 2 later rounds I pretty much went with
the Nash Equilibrium choice of Not Investing.
66Solo - Repeated
- At first, it seemed as though investing would be
a good idea. After the second round, I realized
that not investing would probably give a better
payout because the chances of actually suffering
a loss was so slim. - I mainly choose to not invest because there was
only a 4 chance of losing 40000 Rp. But then
every 4 or 5 turns, I would randomly decide to
invest in protection. Now that I think about it,
even if I hadn't gone with investing at all, the
outcome may have been the same or maybe even
better. - I would invest at points where I thought that I
was happy enough with my cumulative gains that I
didn't want to risk losing what I had already
gained.
67Solo - Precommitted
- It's obvious safer to invest, and the investment
totally worth that. Even if you invest for 20
years, the cost is lower than one large loss
which might happen every year. However, as there
was no large loss happened in the first session,
I therefore chose to take some risks in following
sessions. - The potential loss from investing every time
seemed less than from not investing more often
where even one bad year could produce less
income. - 40000 Rp possible loss 4 chance 1600 Rp loss
expected. So in general it's worth it to invest.
However, given the low likelihood, it might be
worth it to take a risk skip some years.
68Why Groups Cooperate More than Individuals in
SPD- Safety Oriented to Avoid Guilt and Blame
- People take less risk when their decisions affect
others (Charness and Jackson 2008) - In DPD
- Defection is always better off
- No ex post guilt or blame
- In SPD
- Defection has a higher expected payoff, but also
a higher probability of suffering a loss. - If a large loss follows defection ?ex post guilt
and ex post blame for the one who suggested
defection - Group members favor safety-oriented strategy
(cooperation) to avoid ex post guilt and blame?
Reversed discontinuity effect
69Why Groups Cooperate More than Individuals in
SPD -Social Pressure to Conform to Certain Norms
- Three norms are most relevant in PD games Being
pro-group, Being smart, and Being nice - Similar to the group morality and individual
morality argument (Cohen 2006 Pinter 2007) - In DPD
- Both pro-group (group morality) and smart norm
clearly indicate defection - Niceness (individual morality) is clouded
- In SPD
- Unclear what strategy is pro-group and smart
- Being nice is socially desirable and more salient
than in DPD.