IGETC Standards 1'0 1 year later

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IGETC Standards 1.0 (1 year later)

• Presenters Elizabeth Atondo, Estela Narrie, Ken
  O'Donnell, and Dawn Sheibani

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Agenda

• IGETC
• Proposal for Assist to Publish External Exam
  Articulation AP, IB, CLEP
• AP Examples
• Current IB Policy for IGETC Transfer Counselor
  Website
• IB Chart Status
• Transfer Counselor Website
• QA

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IGETC Changes Now in Effect

• Partial Certification/forms
• Can use any CCC course to establish equivalence
• UC GE Course Application
• Upper Division

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Partial Certification Form

• Partial Certifications may be coded on the
  student's official transcript,  but must be
  accompanied by a separate IGETC Certification
  Form, which clearly indicates that the
  certification is "Partial", and identifies  which
  course (or courses) remain to be completed.
• http//ccctransfer.org/IGETC_CERTFORMtemplateJune
  2008.pdf
• Differs from area certification in CSU GE Breadth.

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Student with Out of State Transcripts

• Walter walks into your office with transcripts
  from University of Oregon. He is not sure if he
  wants to transfer to UC or CSU. He has
  completed the following courses each with a C
  grade or higher

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University of Oregon

• English 101, Freshman comp (3 quarter units)
• English 102, Freshman comp 2 (3 quarter units)
• English 103, Freshman comp 3 (3 quarter units)
• History 100, US History (4 quarter units)
• Political Science 101, US Government (4 q units)
• ENVIRO 200, Environmental Science (4 q units)

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U of O Math example

• Math 101, Math a Practical Art. Prerequisite
  Math 098, intermediate algebra Terminal
  mathematics course for liberal arts majors.
   Covers topics in a mathematical and historical
  context.
• 4 quarter units not accepted based on content
  review

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CSU to UC GE ScenarioJenny and her sister Lisa
want to transfer to UC. Jenny attended SDSU.
Lisa went to CSUN. Both completed 1st semester
English composition which fulfills IGETC Area 1A.
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Jennys Transcript from SDSU

• RWS 200 Rhetoric of Written Arguments in
  Context,  it clears critical thinking requirement
  at SDSU
• Acceptable for IGETC Area 1B.

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Lisas transcript from CSUN

• CHS 202, Race, Racism and Critical Thinking this
  course meets the critical thinking requirement at
  CSUN 
• Course not acceptable for IGETC Area 1B.

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Catherine from UCI

• Catherine attended UCI in 1986 and left after
  Fall 1987. She attended CCC in 2006 with plans
  on transferring to UC.
• She also took the following UC GE/breadth
  courses

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Catherine cont.

• 1. UC Irvines Women's Studies 60A which meets a
  UCI breadth requirement in Social and Behavioral
  Sciences
• 2. UC Irvines ASIANAM 142 course which meets
  the campuss Multicultural Studies and
  International/Global Issues breadth requirement.
  
• 3. UC Irvines Philosophy 29, clears
  quantitative reasoning.

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Catherine cont.

• 1. Women's Studies 60A applicable to IGETC Area 4
• 2. ASIANAM 142 not applicable to IGETC.
• 3. Philosophy 29 not applicable to IGETC.  The
  student is missing Area 2 for partial  IGETC.

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Catherines UCI Transcript
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UC Issues

• Do not have students repeat courses at CCC where
  they earned a C- or lower at the UC. Those
  courses must be repeated at a UC summer is
  acceptable.
• Students wanting to return to the UC that they
  came from cannot use IGETC.
• Students that attend a UC, come to CCC, then go
  to another UC, can use IGETC.
• Can use Stats classes outside the math department
  on IGETC if the course meets the rigor of the
  IGETC Standards. Ex. PSYCH 112, Statistics for
  Psychology

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UC Admission Reminders

• Admission reminder
• 1. Students from one UC must be re-admissible
  to that UC if they want to transfer to a
  different UC.
• 2. Students that go to a UC and complete the GE
  pattern have completed the GE for any other UC.
  This is referred to as reciprocity.

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CSU Issues

• Students who attend a CSU and then attend CCC and
  want to return to a CSU, may be able to use the
  CSUGE pattern (check with receiving campus).
  However, the course taken at the CSU must be
  placed in the same GE area as the CSU where the
  course was taken.
• Upper division coursework may be used on CSUGE
• CSU students are required to complete 39 semester
  units of lower division GE to graduate.
• You can use D- on the CSUGE pattern, however,
  most campuses require a C in the golden 4 for
  admission. The overall CSUGE GPA must be 2.0.

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Proposal for Assist to Publish External Exam
Articulation AP, IB, CLEP

• CIAC proposal to Assist in March 2009 to post
  external exam articulation including AP, IB and
  CLEP
• External Exam applicability to the IGETC and CSU
  GE
• Individual CSU and UC exam policies, including
  major prep
• Opportunity for CSU and UC campuses to identify
  external exam credit at the campus level
• Provides CCC counselors and transfer students
  with consistent, direct and accurate information
• Outcome looks favorable and, if approved,
  implementation will occur fall 2009

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AP Example

• John has completed the following AP exams and
  wants to transfer to UC
• AP English composition (4)
• AP English composition and literature (4)
• AP Spanish (5)
• AP Environmental Science (3)
• AP Political Science (3)

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AP Example Results

• 2 AP English exams do NOT meet minimum
  composition admission requirement for UC
• AP English composition and Literature does not
  clear Critical Thinking for UC or CSU
• Check to see if an AP equates to a course at the
  CSU or UC
• AP Environmental Science (along with AP Physics
  C) grants only 3 semester units toward IGETC Area
  5A with lab. Students must take a 4 semester/5
  quarter unit Biological Science course to clear
  area 5
• AP Political Science can be used to clear CSU
  American Institutions requirement US 2 as well as
  Social and Behavioral Science IGETC Area 4

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Current IB Policy for IGETC

• UC When CCC faculty equates credit for IB exams
  as equivalent to CCC IGETC approved courses they
  can be used.
• CSU There is no current systemwide policy for
  IB.
• Now for the good news

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IB Chart Status

• Hopeful Future
• Draft version of IB chart available
• UC/CSU expects to have a response in May
• Hoping IGETC subcommittee of ICAS will respond to
  the joint UC/CSU policy request in time for fall
  2009
• Proposal for Assist to Publish IB Articulation

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Transfer Counselor Website

• Update on the status of hosting the website.
• ICAS website will house the actual policy but all
  other counselor tools will remain at the Transfer
  Counselor Website available at www.ccctransfer.org
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• ETS presentation on the helpful UC information
  resources available at the CCC Transfer website

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