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1
The Scientific Revolution
16th 20th Century Philosophy of Science
  • New systems Copernican Revolution, Galileo,
    Descartes, Newton
  • New reliance on experiment
  • Separation of science from politics (ie
    religion government)
  • New interest in arguments for the existence of
    God, especially the argument from design

2
The Argument from Design
Natural Theology Rev William Paley, 1802
"In crossing a heath, suppose I pitched my foot
against a stone and were asked how the stone came
to be there, I might possibly answer that for
anything I knew to the contrary it had lain there
forever nor would it, perhaps, be very easy to
show the absurdity of this answer. But suppose I
had found a watch upon the ground, and it should
be inquired how the watch happened to be in that
place, I should hardly think of the answer which
I had before given, that for anything I knew the
watch might have always been there.  Yet why
should not this answer serve for the watch as
well as for the stone?  For this reason, and none
other, viz., that when we come to inspect the
watch, we perceive what we could not discover in
the stone, that its several parts were put
together for a purpose.."
3
Philosophy of Science
Since Newton, science is -Based on reductionist
explanations (Ockhams razor,
parsimony) -Uses only natural explanations
(methodological materialism) -Addresses
How, rather than Why -Testable -Correctible -E
xtendable
4
Discovery of Deep Time
late 18th century mid-19th century
-Hutton No vestige of a beginning,
No prospect of an end -Cuvier Following Newton,
Kant, Laplace, Earth must be 100 million years
old. Successive creation extinction events.
Catastrophism, Progressive creationism
-Lyell, Whewell et al The search for a natural
explanation for mystery of mysteries origin of
species.
5
Charles Darwin
On the view that species are only strongly
marked and permanent varieties, and that each
species first existed as a variety, we can see
why it is that no line of demarcation can be
drawn between species, commonly supposed to have
been produced by special acts of creation, and
varieties which are acknowledged to have been
produced by secondary laws.
6
Charles Darwin
There is grandeur in this view of life, with its
several powers, having been originally breathed
into a few forms or into one and that, whilst
this planet has gone cycling on according to the
fixed law of gravity, from so simple a beginning
endless forms most beautiful and most wonderful
have been, and are being, evolved.
7
Reconciling Natural History the Bible
  • Major 19th- 20th- century views
  • Gap Creationism- God created as in the Bible, but
    there was a gap of indeterminate length, perhaps
    millions of years, between the first creation in
    Genesis 11 the second creation in Genesis 12.
    Evolution may have occurred during the long
    period of Genesis 11, but that creation was
    replaced with the current one.
  • Day-Age Creationism Interprets the word day
    in Genesis as a metaphor for a period of time
    (see Peter 38 with the Lord one day is as a
    thousand years and a thousand years is as one
    day" ). The days of Genesis are long time
    periods or ages depicting the order of events in
    the creation of the world as corresponding to
    what we see in the fossil record, eg the age of
    invertebrates, then the age of fishes, then the
    age of reptiles, the age of mammals, the age of
    man, etc.

8
Reconciling Natural History the Bible
  • Major 19th- 20th- century views
  • Progressive Creationism Acknowledges the
    patterns in the fossil record among living
    beings, but says the hand of God creates the new
    species, not natural causes
  • --------------------------------------
  • Theistic Evolutionism Progressive creationism
    grades into theistic evolutionism, which sees God
    deriving new forms of life from old ones. Some
    theistic evolutionists are very like Progressive
    Creationists as they see the hand of God
    intervening directly in the biology of organisms
    to create the new species. Others accept the
    natural processes of evolutionary biology as
    explanatory, but believe that the system was
    preprogrammed to give rise to humans. Still
    others believe God intervened in human evolution
    at some point to bestow a soul (possibly around
    30,000 years ago when we see the first clear
    signs of art religion). The Pope, and the vast
    majority of working scientists in America are
    theistic evolutionists.

9
Reconciling Natural History the Bible
  • Omphalos Creationism Acknowledges the appearance
    of deep time evolutionary progression, but
    interprets this as a sign that God created the
    universe with the appearance of age in order to
    test our faith.
  • Satanic Tampering Acknowledges the appearance of
    deep time evolutionary progression, but
    interprets this as the result of the devil
    tampering with Gods creation in order to lead us
    away from God.
  • Rev Henry Cole, 1830s the subtle enemy of God
    and man has put the infernal artillery of the
    popular new science of Geology into the hands
    of his vassals to aim at this everlasting
    monument of revealed truth ie scripture.
    sophisticating geologians have been allured by
    his implacable subtleties to enlist themselves in
    the service of his infernal policy. Cole rejects
    the argument from design if the word of God
    does not satisfy them, no scientific hypotheses
    will. Let such be turned out of the field of
    sacred argumentas not worthy of being heard.

10
Theological Issues
  • These concerns go to the heart of Christianity
    and are involved in theological debates that date
    back over 1500 years.
  • Even well before the scientific revolution, and
    due only to close examination of scripture, the
    fathers of the church emphasized that a literal
    interpretation of Genesis is not possible.
  • Saint John Chrysostom (ca 347-407 AD) stressed it
    was essential to bear in mind that Moses tried to
    write only of the appearances of things, adapting
    his language and metaphors to the mindset of the
    Isrealites, who had only recently been released
    from Egyptian slavery and did not have a long
    tradition of scholarship.
  • Saint Basil the Great (ca 330-379 AD) explained
  • It is probable that something existed before
    this world which we may conceive of in our
    understandings, but of which no narrative has
    been left.
  • Homil. I in Hexahemeron

11
Theological Issues
-Martin Luther (1483-1546), leader of the
Protestant Reformation in the introduction to his
commentary on Genesis God has reserved to
himself alone this majesty of wisdom, and the
sound understanding of this chapter leaving to
us the general knowledge, that the world had a
beginning, and was created out of nothing by God.
This general knowledge is clearly derived from
the text. But with respect to the particular
things, there is very much that is involved in
difficulty and doubt, and about which questions
without end are agitated.
12
Theological Issues
It is absolutely certain that reason is among all
things the most excellent, the best of all other
things in this life, yea, something Godlike as
it is the inventress and directress of all
sciences, the medical art, jurisprudence, and
even of all wisdom, energy, virtue, and honor
that men possess in this life. God has not
deprived reason of this glory since the fall of
Adam, but rather has confirmed it. What then is
contrary to reason, is much more contrary to
God. -Martin Luther
13
History of Creationismfmi see Ron Numbers book,
The Creationists
  • 1855-1900 Universal acceptance of Geology among
    scientists clerics (ie no publicatiuons
    rejecting the antiquity of the earth, or the
    progressive nature of the fossil record, nor any
    attaching geological significance to the Noachian
    deluge). Acceptance of evolution by the vast
    majority of denominations.
  • 1917-1968 Anti-evolutionism The rise of the
    fundamentalist movement included criticism of
    evolution. Scopes trial 1925, illegal to teach
    evolution in many states until 1968. Most
    fundamentalists of the time were Day-Age, Gap, or
    Progressive old-earth creationists. Many, like
    William Jennings Bryan, were theistic
    evolutionists except as regards human beings.
  • 1960s-90s Young Earth Creationism Roots in 7th
    Day Adventism, 6 literal days, flood geology.
    Asserted there was scientific evidence for the
    Bibles creation story that evolution was at
    odds with the known laws of physics, eg 2nd law
    of thermodynamics.
  • 1980s - Creation Science Promoted laws
    requiring equal time for young-earth creationism
    in public schools. These laws were opposed by
    most Christian denominations, including Southern
    Baptists, as well as Jewish Muslim groups In
    1987 US Supreme Court ruled these
    unconstitutional.
  • 1990s Neo-Creationism uses scientists
    tentativeness criticism of each others ideas
    to imply that evolutionists are promoting
    unfounded, philosophical political positions as
    an attack on religious belief.

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History of Creationism
  • Young-Earth Creationism Interprets the word
    day in Genesis to mean a literal 24-hour day
    (even before the sun planets existed). Sees no
    life before Eden, and no death before the Fall.
    Sees fossils geological strata as the result of
    Noahs flood. This movement was started by Henry
    Morris with his 1963 book The Genesis Flood.
  • Morris most decisive move was to attempt to take
    Genesis literally, including not just the
    special, separate creation of humans and all
    other species, but the historicity of Noah's
    Flood. Although efforts to make a literal
    interpretation of the Bible compatible with
    science, especially geology, occurred throughout
    the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, The
    Genesis Flood was the first significant
    twentieth-century effort. This book made it
    possible for religious antievolutionists to argue
    that evolution was not only religiously
    objectionable, but also scientifically flawed.
    This led to the Creation Science movement.
  • Morris founded the Institute for Creation
    Research in CA. It was the most influential
    creationist organization in the late 20th
    century, but has recently been challenged by
    groups with different creationist philosophies,
    eg Reasons to Believe, the Discovery Institute,
    and Answers in Genesis.

15
History of Creationism
  • The legal battle over Creation Science
  • Laws from the Scopes era were struck down in 1968
    because they privileged one religious view over
    others, a clear violation of the Constitution.
  • The idea emerged among some fundamentalists that
    even if it were no longer possible to ban
    evolution, they could get around the
    establishment clause of the Constitution by
    presenting their religion as science. In 1978, a
    Yale law student named Wendell Bird wrote an
    article in the Yale Law Review presenting a legal
    justification for teaching both evolution and
    creation science, saying that the any scientific
    evidence in favor of creation should be given
    "equal time" in public school classrooms. Bills
    promoting "equal time" for creation science were
    introduced in at least 26 state legislatures.
    Most of them were clones of a model bill
    developed by a South Carolina respiratory
    therapist, Paul Elwanger, which was influenced by
    an ICR model resolution for equal time. The bills
    defined creation science as including the ideas
    of "a worldwide flood" and other YEC mainstays,
    including the special creation of human beings.

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History of Creationism
  • Creation-Science or Scientific Creationism
  • Sudden creation of the universe, energy, and life
    from nothing
  • The insufficiency of mutation and natural
    selection in bringing about development of all
    living kinds from a single organism
  • Changes only within fixed limits of originally
    created kinds of plants and animals
  • Separate ancestry for man and apes
  • Explanation of the earth's geology by
    catastrophism, including the occurrence of a
    worldwide flood and
  • A relatively recent inception of the earth and
    living kinds
  • 1981 Arkansas Equal Time Law

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Is it Science?
  • Sudden creation of the universe, energy, and life
    from nothing
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations Maybe
  • Uses only natural explanations Maybe
  • How, rather than Why Maybe
  • Testable Yes
  • Correctible Yes
  • Extendable Maybe
  • Basically, the assertion is too vague to tell
    just what its claiming except that the universe
    had a beginning, this issue is somewhat
    contentious in physics, but is supported by
    considerable data in the reductionist mode. The
    word sudden is especially unclear. If it means
    that life appeared at the same time as energy and
    matter, then there is no evidence to support it
    a great deal that demonstrates otherwise that
    the universe began about 14 bya, and life on
    Earth began about 4 bya .

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Is it Science?
  • The insufficiency of mutation and natural
    selection in bringing about development of all
    living kinds from a single organism
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations No
  • Uses only natural explanations No
  • How, rather than Why Yes
  • Testable Maybe
  • Correctible Maybe
  • Extendable No
  • The assertion does not make a positive claim. It
    is a statement of doubt, not a hypothesis. It
    might be testable depending on how the word kinds
    is defined. It does not offer a research program.

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Is it Science?
  • Changes only within fixed limits of originally
    created kinds of plants and animals
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations No
  • Uses only natural explanations No
  • How, rather than Why Maybe
  • Testable Yes
  • Correctible Yes
  • Extendable Maybe
  • The claim is contradicted by a tremendous number
    of examples of evolving lineages in the fossil
    record (eg fish to tetrapod, reptile to mammal,
    reptile to bird, ape to human) as well as the
    genetics of all life forms thus examined.

20
Is it Science?
  • Separate ancestry for man and apes
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations No
  • Uses only natural explanations Maybe
  • How, rather than Why Maybe
  • Testable Yes
  • Correctible Yes
  • Extendable Maybe
  • The claim contradicts hundreds of fossils and all
    the genetic and embryological data on living
    primates. The correction is simple Common
    ancestry for humans and apes.

21
Is it Science?
  • Explanation of the earth's geology by
    catastrophism, including the occurrence of a
    worldwide flood
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations No
  • Uses only natural explanations Maybe
  • How, rather than Why Maybe
  • Testable Yes
  • Correctible Maybe
  • Extendable Maybe
  • The claim for a universal flood is not supported
    by the enormous quantity of data geologists have
    accumulated so far. As no date is given, its
    hard to tell what exactly is meant. Its not out
    of the question that the entire land surface of
    the Earth might have at some point been entirely
    covered with water. However, thus far, plate
    tectonics suggests that some land surface has
    always been above water.

22
Is it Science?
  • A relatively recent inception of the earth and
    living kinds
  • Criterion Yes/No
  • Based on reductionist explanations Maybe
  • Uses only natural explanations Maybe
  • How, rather than Why Maybe
  • Testable Yes
  • Correctible Yes
  • Extendable Maybe
  • The assertion makes a positive claim. The claim
    is inconsistent with a mountain of data. The
    corrected statement is A relatively ancient
    inception of the earth and living kinds,
    specifically an origin approx. 4.6 bya for planet
    Earth, and at least 3.9 bya for life.

23
  • ICR Tenets of Scientific Creationism
  • The physical universe of space, time, matter, and
    energy has not always existed, but was
    supernaturally created by a transcendent personal
    Creator who alone has existed from eternity.
  • The phenomenon of biological life did not develop
    by natural processes from inanimate systems but
    was specially and supernaturally created by the
    Creator.
  • Each of the major kinds of plants and animals was
    created functionally complete from the beginning
    and did not evolve from some other kind of
    organism. Changes in basic kinds since their
    first creation are limited to "horizontal"
    changes (variation) within the kinds, or
    "downward' changes (e.g., harmful mutations,
    extinctions).
  • The first human beings did not evolve from an
    animal ancestry, but were specially created in
    fully human form from the start. Furthermore, the
    "spiritual" nature of man (self-image, moral
    consciousness, abstract reasoning, language,
    will, religious nature, etc.) is itself a
    supernaturally created entity distinct from mere
    biological life.
  • The record of earth history, as preserved in the
    earth's crust, especially in the rocks and fossil
    deposits, is primarily a record of catastrophic
    intensities of natural processes, operating
    largely within uniform natural laws, rather than
    one of gradualism and relatively uniform process
    rates. There are many scientific evidences for a
    relatively recent creation of the earth and the
    universe, in addition to strong scientific
    evidence that most of the earth's fossiliferous
    sedimentary rocks were formed in an even more
    recent global hydraulic cataclysm.
  • Processes today operate primarily within fixed
    natural laws and relatively uniform process rates
    but, since these were themselves originally
    created and are daily maintained by their
    Creator, there is always the possibility of
    miraculous intervention in these laws or
    processes by their Creator. Evidences for such
    intervention should be scrutinized critically,
    however, because there must be clear and adequate
    reason for any such action on the part of the
    Creator.
  • The universe and life have somehow been impaired
    since the completion of creation, so that
    imperfections in structure, disease, aging,
    extinctions, and other such phenomena are the
    result of "negative" changes in properties and
    processes occurring in an originally-perfect
    created order.
  • Since the universe and its primary components
    were created perfect for their purposes in the
    beginning by a competent and volitional Creator,
    and since the Creator does remain active in this
    now-decaying creation, there do exist ultimate
    purposes and meanings in the universe.
    Teleological considerations, therefore, are
    appropriate in scientific studies whenever they
    are consistent with the actual data of
    observation, and it is reasonable to assume that
    the creation presently awaits the consummation of
    the Creator's purpose.
  • Although people are finite and scientific data
    concerning origins are always circumstantial and
    incomplete, the human mind (if open to the
    possibility of creation) is able to explore the
    manifestations of that Creator rationally and
    scientifically, and to reach an intelligent
    decision regarding one's place in the Creator's
    plan.

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  • ICR Tenets of Biblical Creationism
  • The Creator of the universe is a triune God
    Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. There is only one
    eternal and transcendent God, the source of all
    being and meaning, and He exists in three
    Persons, each of whom participated in the work of
    creation.
  • The Bible, consisting of the thirty-nine
    canonical books of the Old Testament and the
    twenty-seven canonical books of the New
    Testament, is the divinely-inspired revelation of
    the Creator to man. Its unique, plenary, verbal
    inspiration guarantees that these writings, as
    originally and miraculously given, are infallible
    and completely authoritative on all matters with
    which they deal, free from error of any sort,
    scientific and historical as well as moral and
    theological.
  • All things in the universe were created and made
    by God in the six literal days of the creation
    week described in Genesis 11-23, and confirmed
    in Exodus 208-11. The creation record is
    factual, historical, and perspicuous thus all
    theories of origins or development which involve
    evolution in any form are false. All things which
    now exist are sustained and ordered by God's
    providential care. However, a part of the
    spiritual creation, Satan and his angels,
    rebelled against God after the creation and are
    attempting to thwart His divine purposes in
    creation.
  • The first human beings, Adam and Eve, were
    specially created by God, and all other men and
    women are their descendants. In Adam, mankind was
    instructed to exercise "dominion" over all other
    created organisms, and over the earth itself (an
    implicit commission for true science, technology,
    commerce, fine art, and education) but the
    temptation by Satan and the entrance of sin
    brought God's curse on that dominion and on
    mankind, culminating in death and separation from
    God as the natural and proper consequence.
  • The Biblical record of primeval earth history in
    Genesis 1-11 is fully historical and perspicuous,
    including the creation and fall of man, the curse
    on the creation and its subjection to the bondage
    of decay, the promised Redeemer, the worldwide
    cataclysmic deluge in the days of Noah, the
    post-diluvian renewal of man's commission to
    subdue the earth (now augmented by the
    institution of human govemment) and the origin of
    nations and languages at the tower of Babel.
  • The alienation of man from his Creator because of
    sin can only be remedied by the Creator Himself,
    who became man in the person of the Lord Jesus
    Christ, through miraculous conception and virgin
    birth. In Christ were indissolubly united perfect
    sinless humanity and full deity, so that His
    substitutionary death is the only necessary and
    sufficient price of man's redemption. That the
    redemption was completely efficacious is assured
    by His bodily resurrection from the dead and
    ascension into heaven the resurrection of Christ
    is thus the focal point of history, assuring the
    consummation of God's purposes in creation.
  • The final restoration of creation's perfection is
    yet future, but individuals can immediately be
    restored to fellowship with their Creator, on the
    basis of His redemptive work on their behalf,
    receiving forgiveness and etemal life solely
    through personal trust in the Lord Jesus Christ,
    accepting Him not only as estranged Creator but
    also as reconciling Redeemer and coming King.
    Those who reject Him, however, or who neglect to
    believe on Him, thereby continue in their state
    of rebellion and must ultimately be consigned to
    the everlasting fire prepared for the devil and
    his angels.

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History of Creationism
  • 1980s - Creation Science
  • Arkansas' equal time law was declared
    unconstitutional in 1982 after a full trial.
    Opposing the law were leaders of many religious
    organizations. Joining the lead plaintiff,
    Methodist Rev. Bill McLean, were bishops other
    leaders of Roman Catholic, Episcopalian, African
    Methodist Episcopal, Presbyterian, and Southern
    Baptist churches, and Reform Jews. A leading New
    York law firm assembled an all-star cast of
    witnesses from the fields of science, philosophy
    of science, education, and theology. The McLean
    v. Arkansas decision was a rousing victory for
    the anticreationists Federal District Judge
    Overton not only struck down the law, but
    declared that creation science failed as science.
    Having lost badly, the state did not appeal.
    The failure of the Arkansas equal time law
    slowed but did not halt the effort to pass
    legislation. At virtually the same time as the
    Arkansas decision was being issued, Louisiana
    passed a similar equal time law which was
    challenged by both proponents and opponents one
    side suing to immediately implement the law, and
    the other requesting an injunction. The was no
    full trial. In 1987, the US Supreme Court decided
    in Edwards v. Aguillard that equal time laws like
    Louisiana's violated the establishment clause of
    the First Amendment of the Constitution because
    they promoted the views of a particular religious
    sect.

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History of Creationism
The religious agenda of Creation-Science is
clear "God used processes which are not now
operating anywhere in the natural universe. This
is why we refer to divine creation as special
creation. We cannot discover by scientific
investigation anything about the creative
processes used by God." --Duane Gish, Evolution
The Fossils Say No, p. 42 "As a missionary
organization, ICR is funded by God's people. We
believe God has raised up ICR to spearhead
Biblical Christianity's defense against the
godless dogma of evolutionary humanism. Only by
showing the scientific bankruptcy of evolution,
while exalting Christ and the Bible, will
Christians be successful in 'the pulling down of
strongholds casting down imaginations, and every
high thing that exaltheth itself against the
knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity
every thought to the obedience of Christ' (II
Corinthians 104,5)." --ICR Webpage The only
way we can determine the true age of the earth is
for God to tell us what it is. And since he has
told us, very plainly, in the Holy Scriptures
that it is several thousand years of age, and no
more, that ought to settle all basic questions of
terrestrial chronology." --Henry Morris,
Remarkable Birth, p. 94
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History of Creationism
  • 1990s-present Neo-Creationism
  • Intelligent Design Creationism- a homage to
    Paleys argument from design, in large part,
    Intelligent Design Creationism is used today as
    an umbrella anti-evolution position under which
    creationists of all flavors may unite in an
    attack on scientific methodology in general. A
    common tenet of IDC is that any acceptance of
    evolution equates to metaphysical materialism (ie
    the belief that all aspects of reality are
    explained by natural causes, ie that science has
    proven that there is no God.).
  • Non-Christian Creationisms- Accept various
    anti-evolution arguments (like those of
    Intelligent Design) but say their religion offers
    a more adequate creation account.

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History of Creationism
  • Intelligent Design relies on the failure of
    scientific explanations. If those explanations
    should happen not to fail, Design would become
    superfluous.
  • "What I want to focus on here, however, is not
    the testing of Darwinism and design against the
    broad body of biological data, but the related
    question of which theory can accommodate the
    greater range of biological possibilities...
    First off, let's be clear that design can
    accommodate all the results of Darwinism.
    Intelligent design does not repudiate the
    Darwinian mechanism. It merely assigns it a lower
    status than Darwinism does. The Darwinian
    mechanism does operate in nature and insofar as
    it does, design can live with its deliverances.
    Even if the Darwinian mechanism could be shown to
    do all the design work for which design theorists
    want to invoke design (say for the bacterial
    flagellum), a design-theoretic framework would
    not destroy any valid findings of science. To be
    sure, design would then become superfluous, but
    it would not become contradictory or
    self-refuting.
  • -William Dembski
  • http//www.meta-list.org

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Daniel Liethas comics highlight the differences
between a scientific approach to the natural
world one based on attempts to interpret the
Bible literally. See more of his cartoons at
http//members.truepath.com/DanL/CWstrips.html
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The cartoons demonstrate that the
creation-evolution debate is not science vs
religion, but religion vs religion, ie competing
interpretations of the Bible.
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  • How do Young Earthers differ from Progressive
    Creationists?
  • Example Hugh Ross Duane Gish debate on Jim
    Dobsons Focus on the Family evangelical radio
    program
  • Gish Now Hugh in his view - in his big bang
    cosmology, big bang cosmology is a natural
    process that begins with this big bang, and
    following the big bang then as this hydrogen and
    helium distributed itself throughout the universe
    and as stars evolved and galaxies evolved and our
    solar system created itself and so on.. That's
    been going on for, say, 15, 16, 17, 18 billion
    years. Well in a process like that, you see, I
    don't see any difference between that view and
    that of any atheist cosmologist or any
    unbelieving cosmologist who believes in the big
    bang, I can't see the difference and I don't see
    the agreement between this natural evolutionary
    origin of the universe and the universe that God
    created in the book of Genesis. In other words
    certainly if creation is not finished - Hugh
    believes that stars are still forming today you
    see, so we still - evolutionary creation has been
    going on for 18 billion years.
  • See the whole debate at http//www.talkorigins.org
    /faqs/gish-ross-debate.html

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  • How do Young Earthers differ from Progressive
    Creationists?
  • Dobson
  • For those who have not read on this subject -
    they may be lost already - explain what the big
    bang theory is.
  • Ross
  • Well the big bang theory is the theory that
    there's a beginning - a creation event, and that
    moreover this creation event was caused by a
    being that transcends matter energy length,
    width, height and time - that's what I mean by
    transcendent. If you go into Hinduism or Buddhism
    they say that time is eternal that the cosmos is
    eternal, that the cosmos oscillates. And what the
    big bang does for us is prove that these
    religions are false and that only the Christian
    interpretation of the cosmos is correct.
  • See the whole debate at
  • www.talkorigins.org/faqs/gish-ross-debate.html

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"Evolution is at the foundation of communism,
fascism, Freudianism, social darwinism,
behaviorism, Kinseyism, materialism, atheism, and
in the religious world, modernism and
neo-orthodoxy" -Henry Morris 1963, Genesis Flood
p. 24
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    There is still a great need today to
reaffirm the fundamental doctrines of
Christianity, especially when we consider "The
Jesus Seminar," "Evangelicals and Catholics
Together," the current push by the Mormons to
present themselves as just another Christian
denomination, and a host of other groups claiming
to be Christian who deny these core truths. John
MacArthur's book Reckless Faith, published by
Crossway Books is an excellent, brief analysis of
present day doctrinal compromise. From The
Fundamentals website http//www.xmission.com/fid
elis/index.html
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We are concerned with Christian faith not
Catholic or Protestant faith. There is only one
Christ. There is one God. -Billy Graham
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