Title: Beethoven Cello Sonata
1Beethoven Cello Sonata 3 (1807-08)
- Jacqueline du Pré, Cello
- Daniel Barenboim, Piano
- Edinburgh Festival (1970)
2DQ3. Precedent. Why use precedents at all?
Why shouldnt the court simply announce who wins?
3DQ3. Precedent. Why use precedents at all?
Why shouldnt the court simply announce who
wins? - Consistency - Legitimacy -
Predictability
4CASE BRIEF RESUME
- Standardized Information
- Range of Successful Ways to Present
- Alter for Different Audiences
- Rarely the Whole Story
5STATEMENT OF THE CASE
6STATEMENT OF THE CASE
- Succinct Statement of Nature of Original Lawsuit
7STATEMENT OF THE CASE
- Succinct Statement of Nature of Original Lawsuit
- In Case Brief Reminds You Quickly What Case Is
About
8STATEMENT OF THE CASE
- Succinct Statement of Nature of Original Lawsuit
- In Case Brief Reminds You Quickly What Case Is
About - In Court Submissions Quickly Explains Nature of
Cases You Discuss In Your Arguments
9STATEMENT OF THE CASE
10WHO SUED WHOM?
11WHO SUED WHOM?
- Plaintiff Sued Defendant
- Post Sued Pierson
12WHO SUED WHOM?
- Post, a blond 27-year old Dutch-American
asthmatic unemployed son of a hero of the
Revolutionary War ...
13WHO SUED WHOM?
- Apartment Landlord Sued Former Tenant
- Purchasers of Leaky New House Sued Developer ...
- Consumer Injured By Exploding Blender Sued
Manufacturer and Seller of Blender ...
14WHO SUED WHOM?
- Post, a hunter who had been pursuing a fox, sued
Pierson, who killed the fox knowing of the
pursuit ...
15STATEMENT OF THE CASE
- Who Sued Whom?
- Under What Theory?
16UNDER WHAT THEORY?
- Trespass on the Case
- (See 1st Sentence of Case)
- Indirect Injury to ?s Property
17UNDER WHAT THEORY?
- Trespass on the Case
- (See 1st Sentence of Case)
- Indirect Injury to ?s Property
- Compare Trespass
- Direct Injury to ?s Property
18STATEMENT OF THE CASE
- Who Sued Whom?
- Under What Theory?
- For What Remedy?
19FOR WHAT REMEDY?
20FOR WHAT REMEDY?
- Unclear From Case
- Dissent In a court constituted of hunters,
the skin and carcass of poor reynard would have
been properly disposed of ...
21FOR WHAT REMEDY?
- Unclear From Case
- Dissent In a court constituted of hunters,
the skin and carcass of poor reynard would have
been properly disposed of - Normal Remedy For Trespass on the Case is Damages
22SAMPLE STATEMENT
- Post, a hunter who had been pursuing a fox, sued
Pierson, who killed the fox knowing of the
pursuit, for trespass on the case, presumably
seeking damages.
23PROCEDURAL POSTURE
24PROCEDURAL POSTURE
- Procedural Steps After Complaint Filed Up To Step
Getting Case to the Appellate Court
25PROCEDURAL POSTURE
- Procedural Steps After Complaint Filed Up To Step
Getting Case to the Appellate Court - Limit to Steps Necessary to Understand Case
26PROCEDURAL POSTURE
- Procedural Steps After Complaint Filed Up To Step
Getting Case to the Appellate Court - Limit to Steps Necessary to Understand Case
- After Trial Resulted in Verdict for Plaintiff,
Appellate Court Granted Defendants Petition for
Certiorari Review
27FACTS
28FACTS
- Limit to facts relevant to courts analysis.
29FACTS
- Limit to facts relevant to courts analysis.
- Cant determine relevance on 1st read select or
edit after reading whole case.
30ISSUE/HOLDING
31ISSUE/HOLDING
- Party Appealing Claims the Lower Court Made a
Mistake. Identify the Mistake.
32ISSUE/HOLDING
- Party Appealing Claims the Lower Court Made a
Mistake. Identify the Mistake. - Procedural Component of Mistake What Should
Lower Court Have Done Differently?
33ISSUE/HOLDING
- Party Appealing Claims the Lower Court Made a
Mistake. Identify the Mistake. - Procedural Component of Mistake What Should
Lower Court Have Done Differently? - Substantive Component of Mistake What
Misunderstanding About the Legal Rule Caused the
Lower Court to Err
34The declaration and the matters therein
contained were not sufficient in law to maintain
an action.
35The declaration and the matters therein
contained were not sufficient in law to maintain
an action.
- WHAT WAS
- INSUFFICIENT
- ABOUT IT?
36Allegation that plaintiff pursued the fox is
insufficient because pursuit alone does not
create property rights in the fox.
37WHAT SHOULD THE LOWER COURT HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?
38WHAT SHOULD THE LOWER COURT HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY?
- The Lower Court Should Have Dismissed the Case
for Failure to State a Claim on Which Relief
Could Be Granted
39ALLEGED MISTAKE
- The Lower Court Should Have Dismissed the Case
for Failure to State a Claim on Which Relief
Could Be Granted - Allegation That Plaintiff Pursued the Fox Is
Insufficient Because Pursuit Alone Does Not
Create Property Rights in the Fox.
40Did the Lower Court Err by Failing To Dismiss the
Case for Failure to State a Claim on Which Relief
Could Be Granted Because Pursuit of a Fox Is
Insufficient to Create Property Rights in the
Fox?
41Simple Substantive Issue Is Pursuit of a Fox
Sufficient to Create Property Rights in the Fox?
42Did the Lower Court Err by Failing To Dismiss the
Case for Failure to State a Claim on Which Relief
Could Be Granted Because Pursuit of a Fox Is
Insufficient to Create Property Rights in the
Fox?
43YES. The Lower Court Erred by Failing To Dismiss
the Case for Failure to State a Claim on Which
Relief Could Be Granted Because Pursuit of a Fox
Is Insufficient to Create Property Rights in the
Fox.
44Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox, you must be the
first to occupy it, which means you must do
more than pursue it.
45Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on a
deserted beach, you must be the first to occupy
it, which means you must do more than pursue it.
46DQ4. Significance of Facts.
- Why might it matter that the fox is caught on a
deserted beach?
47Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on a
deserted beach, you must be the first to occupy
it, which means you must do more than pursue it.
? - To get property rights in a fox found on unowned
property, you must be the first to occupy it,
which means you must do more than pursue it.
48Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on a
deserted beach, you must be the first to occupy
it, which means you must do more than pursue it.
? - To get property rights in a fox found on unowned
property, you must be the first to occupy it,
which means you must do more than pursue it.
49DQ4. Significance of Facts.
- Suppose fox fell into a well before it was shot.
Change the result?
50DQ4. Significance of Facts.
- Suppose fox fell into a well before it was shot.
Change the result? - Contemporary accounts suggest this really
happened. Why isnt this discussed in the case?
51BROAD v. NARROW HOLDINGS
- NARROW
- Covers fewer cases
- Includes more facts
- More specific
- BROAD
- Covers more cases
- Includes fewer facts
- More general
52Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on a
deserted beach, you must be the first to occupy
it, which means you must do more than pursue it.
? - To get property rights in a fox found on unowned
property, you must be the first to occupy it,
which means you must do more than pursue it.
53Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on unowned
property, you must be the first to occupy it,
which means you must do more than pursue it. ? - To get property rights in an animal found on
unowned property, you must be the first to
occupy it, which means you must do more than
pursue it. ???
54DQ4. Significance of Facts.
- Why might it matter that the hunted animal is a
fox as opposed to some other animal?
55Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a fox found on unowned
property, you must be the first to occupy it,
which means you must do more than pursue it. ? - To get property rights in a wild animal found on
unowned property, you must be the first to
occupy it, which means you must do more than
pursue it.
565. Holding and Dicta. What are the pros and cons
of a court discussing facts not before them?
57Version of Substantive Holding
- To get property rights in a wild animal found on
unowned property, you must be the first to
occupy it, which means you must do more than
pursue it. ? - To get property rights in a wild animal found on
unowned property, you must be the first to
occupy it, which means you must mortally wound
it or capture it in a net or trap. ???
585. Holding and Dicta. How do you know which
language in the case is part of the holding?
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