Title: The Image of God in Suicidal Persons
1The Image of God in Suicidal Persons
2A presentation on The Image of God in Suicidal
Persons - agenda
- Introduction to the problem
- Heuristic component
- Phenomenological methodology results
- Theological reflection
- Conclusions and Implications
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4Prevalence and relevance of the Problem
- Worldwide
- World Health Organization global suicide rates
(deaths per 100,000 population) increased by
about 70 in the past 50 years. - Canada
- 4,000 suicidal deaths annually.
- Alberta
- second highest provincial suicide rate
5- Iceberg of suffering (Eckersley Dear, 1998)
- Likelihood of covert suicidality in clients
6Heuristic Component
- The Support Network experience
- St Stephens College
- Introduced to the image of God concept
- Theologically reflection on a personal
experience of suffering.
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9I found god inside myself and i loved her. I
loved her fiercely. - Playwright Natasha
Shange, 1980
10Research Questions
- What is the experience of painful emotions and
the image of God in suicidal persons? - What are the implications for pastoral
counselling practice?
11Methodology
- Heuristic phenomenological approach
- Participant recruitment
- Observers
- Interviews
12Role of co-researchers
- What is perceived by people as real, is real in
its consequences. - - Thomas Thomas, 1928
- Nothing about us without us.
- - statement by involuntary psychiatric patients
to their program evaluators (cited in Patton,
2002)
13Emergent Themes
14Theme 1 - Markers of the experience of
emotional pain when suicidal
- Feeling overwhelmed by the pain.
- Wanting the pain to stop
- Having thoughts of suicide
- Feeling alone
- Not really wanting to die Ambivalence
- Feeling frustrated at unmet psychological needs
15Theme 2 -The role of others
- What helps
- What does not help
- Hiding the pain
- learnt responses to pain
163 - Beliefs about God in relation to emotional
pain
- Gods motive for emotional pain
- God disapproves of emotional pain
- God is external to painful emotional experience
- Believing retrospectively in Gods supportive
presence
174 - Relationship with God when not in suicidal
distress
- As personal God
- As a male or described using masculine pronouns
- As a reflection of cultural learning
- As reflection of ones early relationships
18Theme 5 Experience of God when in suicidal
distress
- God is absent
- God is silent
19What was Jesus experience of psychological
distress?
Michael D. O'Brien
20Theological Reflection
- What is a theological reflection
- Reflection on the Gethsemane accounts
- Themes marking Jesus experience
21 The Gethsemane account of Jesus emotional
distress - Mark 1432- , NIV
- They went to a place called Gethsemane, and Jesus
said to his disciples, Sit here, while I pray. - He took Peter, James and John along with him and
- he began to be deeply distressed and troubled.
My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow to the point
of death, he said to them
22The Gethsemane account of Jesus emotional
distress Matthew 26 36 - , NIV
- Then Jesus went with his disciples to a place
called Gethsemane, and he said to them, Sit here
while I go over there and pray. He took Peter
and the two sons of Zebedee along with him, and
he began to be sorrowful and troubled. Then he
said to them, My soul is overwhelmed with sorrow
to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch
with me. - Going a little farther, he fell with his face to
the ground and prayed, . . .
23Markers of Jesus emotional pain- a soul
overwhelmed with sorrow
- - A soul overwhelmed with sorrow
24- The very core of suicide always relates to
overwhelming psychological pain. . . - Edwin Shneidman
25Jesus experience of emotional distress Marker 2
- . . . to the point of death,
- he said to them. (Mark 14 34, NIV)
26Drawing on my faith tradition
- I am so full of sorrow, I would rather be dead.
- I am so sad I want to die.
- Paraphrases of Jesus in Mark 1434 by J. Warren
Holleran, Gethsemane scholar
27Markers of Jesus experience of emotional distress
Take this cup!
- Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and
prayed that if possible the hour might pass from
him. Abba, Father, he said, Everything is
possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not
what I will but what you will. Mark 14
35,36 NIV - My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be
taken from me. Matthew 26 39 NIV - Wanting the pain to stop
28- Overwhelming psychological pain and the urge
will to stop that pain are the core of
suicide. - - Edwin Shneidman
29Markers of Jesus emotional distress Unmet
Psychological needs
- Then he returned to his disciples and found them
sleeping. Simon, he said to Peter, are you
asleep? Could you not keep watch for one hour? - Mark 1438 NIV
30Then he returned to his disciples and found them
sleeping. Could you men not stay awake with me
for one hour? he asked Peter. Matthew 26 40 NIV
31Marker 5 of Jesus Emotional distress - A
tortured soul
32Jesus experience of emotional distress Marker
6 Alone and abandoned
33Markers of Jesus image of God when in distress
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36Metaphorical and Apophatic Theologies
- Words about God both are and are not about God.
Sally McFague - God is a questioning of God.
- - Theologian Charles Winquist, 1986).
- I pray to God to free me of God.
- - 13th century mystic Meister Eckhart
37Markers of Jesus image of God
- Abba!
- A radically original address of God
38Conclusions
- Jesus and co-researchers shared markers of
emotional distress - Overwhelmed with sorrow
- Thoughts of death
- Wanting the pain to stop
- Frustrated psychological needs
- A tortured soul - ambivalent
- Feeling alone abandoned
- Image of god in suicidal persons
- Absence
- Jesus use of unique Abba metaphor
39Implications for Pastoral Counselling
- the experience of feeling suicidal is a
legitimate human experience - Attend to and nonjudgmentally explore deeply the
experience of pain and suicidality - Examine, deconstruct and re-image God
40- Your comments or questions are welcome email
- For copies of the thesis
- susaneanderson_at_shaw.ca