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Greek Science II
  • Fundamental Issues and Theories
  • As applied to the Motions of the Planets

2
Plato set the problem that was to influence the
study of astronomy for generations
  • "By the assumption of what uniform and ordered
    motions can the apparent (i.e., "erratic")
    motions of the planets be accounted for." That
    is, how is one to "save the phenomena" in terms
    of uniform circular movement.
  • (remember, the circle is perfect)

3
Assumptions and Complications
  • Implicit and reflecting common sense (the
    cultural component), is the perception that the
    earth must be unmoving and at the center of the
    universe.
  • It is also manifest that everything either moves
    (falls) toward the earth naturally or
    revolves eternally around it in perfect circles.
  • But there were problems the planets do not move
    in perfect circles. They exhibit retrograde
    motion getting brighter and dimmer, moving
    forwards and backwards. How to explain and save
    the theory?

4
Two solutions
  • The earliest attempt to resolve the conflict
    between cultural expectations about perfect
    circles and retrograde motions was made by
    Eudoxus where retrograde motion can be explained
    using nested concentric circles.
  • The second and more enduring solution was
    developed by the astronomer Claudius Ptolemy,
    through the use of epicycles

5
Postulate The earth is the center of the cosmos
and unmoved
  • Ptolemy, Almagest I, 7...it may be proved (!)
    that the earth cannot make any movement
    whatever...or ever change its position at all
    from its place at the center of the cosmos.
  • it is manifest to any observer that the earth
    occupies the middle place in the cosmos, and that
    all weights move toward it, that the earth is
    spherical and situated in the middle of the
    cosmos...and it is a simple fact that in all
    parts of the earth without exception the
    tendencies and the motions of bodies which have
    weight operate at right angles to tangent drawn
    through the point of contact where the object
    falls...That is, objects that have weight
    "naturally" fall to the center of the cosmos.

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The second argument
  • if the earth moved away from the center of the
    universe, heavier objects would still all toward
    that center and the animals and all separate
    weights would have been left behind floating in
    air at the center of the cosmos, while the
    earth at its great speed would have fallen
    completely out of the cosmos itself. but this is
    utterly ridiculous, for the rotation of the earth
    would be more violent than any (1000 mph).

7
The ancients did know the circumference of the
earth
  • By the 3rd Cent BC the Greeks had not only a
    good idea of that the earth was a sphere, but
    devised a method to calculate its diameter. This
    calculation leads to the 1000 mph rotational
    velocity and the idea that cows should be flying
    off the surface of the earth yet no such flying
    cows were ever observed. Therefore the Earth
    could not be rotating and it was the sun
    revolving around the earth that caused day/night.

8
Some awkward problems
  • how to account for the change of seasons if the
    earth was absolutely immobile?
  • So, too, if the earth turns on its axis it turns
    east toward the rising sun, so we should observe
    a strong wind "east wind" but that is not the
    case (prevailing winds blow from the west).

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And the response
  • And if the earths rotates in an orbit around the
    sun, one ought to observe a change in stellar
    parallax (a change in the angle of the "fixed"
    stars as the earth moves from (say) winter to
    summer.
  • But that is not observed (with naked eye)
    therefore the earth remains at the center and
    unmoved.

10
Reconciliation??
  • Both theories, the geo-centric and the
    helio-centric had inconsistencies with respect to
    observed data ? so what do you choose?
  • The important point here is that, faced with two
    awkward theories, preserving the phenomena"
    (i.e., the intuitive) won out, that is people
    preferred the explanation that was consistent
    with their primary observation that the earth did
    not move.
  • This primary observation then forms the basis for
    scientific consensus and the adopted geocentric
    model of the Solar System
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