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Title: Why I am a doubter of evolution


1
Why I am a doubter of evolution
  • Ralph Seelke
  • David Carrolls Critical Thinking Class,
  • Nov. 19, 2008

2
The short version
  • Evolution (mutation and selection)
  • Cant
  • Do
  • Anything
  • Interesting

3
Why I am a doubter (of evolution)
  • Evolution demands that ALL the diversity and
    complexity in our world is due to natural
    processes- and the primary agent is mutation and
    selection.
  • Almost everything interesting requires multiple
    independent mutational events
  • A problem- when multiple things ALL have to
    happen before you can get a selective advantage-
    the probabilities become vanishingly small
    (irreducible complexity)

4
  • We can actually test whether evolution is able to
    work, when the evolutionary task requires
    multiple independent steps.
  • When you ask natural selection to actually DO
    something involving multiple events- it cant.

5
Just so you know others see this as a problem..
  • A very general problem inevolution how is an
    advantageous phenotype selected when it requires
    multiple mutations, none of which are
    advantageous until all are present?...this
    presents a barrier that would appear to be
    difficult when two independent random mutations
    are required to improve fitness and insuperable
    when more than two are required (emphasis added)
  • Hall (1991), PNAS 88, 5882-5886

6
Where Were Going
  • Confessions of an experimentalist
  • Why Irreducible Complexity is a problem- the
    number TWO
  • What Evolution has been able to accomplish
  • What it has NOT been able to accomplish
  • Some conclusions

7
Why Irreducible Complexity is a Problem-
Probability!!
  • The main way evolution works is through random
    processes at low probability- 1 in a million is
    a common, fairly high probability that a mutation
    might occur.
  • So if you need one mutation, the odds are one in
    a million if you need TWO- the odds are now one
    in a TRILLION!!!

8
Long arms AND light bones!
???
Source Ronald Pine, http//home.honolulu.hawaii.e
du/pine/book1-2.html
9
So- doing one thing should be easy for evolution
  • Doing two or more things, when both or all have
    to occur for evolution to take place, should be
    hard
  • Can we TEST this??

10
  • To Test Evolution You Need
  • A LARGE Population
  • and/or
  • MANY Generations
  • A Trait That Can Evolve
  • !!!!BACTERIA!!!!
  • (or yeasts!)

11
  • 4 TRILLION in a 1 Gal Milk Jug!
  • Thousands of Generations in a Year!
  • COMPLEX Traits!
  • When they evolve, we can FIND THEM!

12

Each Transfer Produces 6.6 generations of
evolution! 46 generations per week Almost 400 per
month Over 2,400 in a year 24,000 in ten years!
13
We can FIND evolution BecauseWhen the microbe
EVOLVESitGROWSor GROWS BETTER in the
environment that we give it!!!!
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15
MORE Evolution Before your very eyes!
16
Is the Need for Two Independent Mutations REALLY
an Evolution-Stopper?Studies with the trpA Gene
of Escherichia coli
17
Testing the Two Mutation Rule
  • Find a well-studied gene, with known mutations
    that inactivate it.
  • Introduce 1,2,3, or four inactivating mutations
  • Let the gene evolve under highly selective
    conditions

18
The Gene of Choice trpA
19
Results So FarIf Evolution Requires Two or More
Independent MutationsNOTHING HAPPENS
20
Testing Large Populations of Bacteria for
Evolution
  • Weve tested at least 2 trillion cells for their
    ability to evolve, when two mutations are
    required. So far, they cant.
  • When only one mutation is required, they evolve
    readily- about 1 in every 100 million cells
    evolves to be able to make its own tryptophan.

21
Results of Serial Transfer
  • One culture lost its trpAB genes within 275
    generations.
  • Two additional cultures have been tested for
    1050 transfers, or over 7,000 generations.
  • No Trp evolution observed.
  • HOWEVER they do evolve

22
The cultures have evolved to be able to grow
better in the tryptophan-limited medium
23
The story actually gets worse
  • Since beginning this project, we learned that our
    microbe with two mutations actually should have
    been able to evolve to become Trp- but it
    hasnt.
  • The bacterial population heads for an
    evolutionary dead end, where it lowers its
    ability to evolve, in exchange for short-term
    gain.

24
A case of evolution preventing evolution
This path NEVER happens
Selection because of fitness advantage

Mutation
M1, M2 DeadTrpA
M1, M2 Weak TrpA
Change at 1584 ALWAYS happens
M1, M2 Dead TrpA
M1, M2 Strong TrpA
M1, M2 STILL Dead TrpA
Mutation lowers trpA expression, increases
fitness
Population of fully Trp cells
Reversion of M1 no longer selective both must
now revert for a Trp cell
25
Why Does Requiring Two Changes Make Such a
Difference?
  • With our strain with 1 mutation, 1 in every 100
    million cells evolves to become Trp.
  • You would expect 100 mutants in a billion cells-
    the contents of 1 milliliter of a bacterial
    culture
  • If you need TWO mutations, you would expect one
    in every 10,000 trillion cells- these would fill
    at least 10,000 liters of liquid!
  • So at this point, evolution is an observation
    without a plausible natural explanation.

26
Why Not Pursue This Approach?
  • Can long-term evolution demonstrate the evolution
    of difficult traits?
  • Reviewer
  • On this question (evolution of difficult
    traits), we certainly know that long-term
    evolution (really long-term) has created
    "difficult" (complex) traits such as
    photosynthesis, DNA replication, protein
    synthesis, cell division, nitrogen fixation,
    transformation, toxins and many more.
  • Another reviewer
  • What can be said if the answer is no?

27
Where this is of practical importance- antibiotic
resistant bacteria
  • If, in the 1940s and 50s, we had known both the
    capabilities and limitations of evolution, we
    would have only used triple antibiotic cocktails-
    and resistance would not be the problem it is
    today.

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Acknowledgements
  • Merck Foundation
  • UW-Superior
  • A.C. Matin Lab and Stanford University
  • NUMEROUS undergraduate students!
  • Pravien Abeywickrema,Kayo Sakaguchi
  • Robert Jennings, Ranjuna Weerasekera
  • Lynn Meyer, Sarah Rahn, Stephanie Ebnet, Jason
    Uviasah, Benjamin Okemwa, Laramie Rapp, Jory
    Fleishauer
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