Title: Science and Evolution: Four Christian Views
1Science and EvolutionFour Christian Views
- JOHN OAKES, PhD
- Proyecto Esdras May 8, 2010
22010 ICEC Concordia University, Irvine CAJune
11-13
- International Christian Evidences Conference
Featured Speaker John Clayton
www.evidenceforchristianity.org joakes01_at_san.rr.co
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3Public ForumFour Christian Views of
EvolutionJune 12 70012/10 Students10
Goodyear, Irvine CA
Kevin Anderson
John Clayton
Young Earth Creationism
Denis Lamoreax
John Oakes
Intelligent Design
Progressive Creationism
Evolutionary Creationism
4Our Outline
- Science and Religion The Limits of Science
- The History of Science and Christianity
- The Age of the Universe and the Age of the Earth
- Genesis 1 and Creation
- Evolution The Evidence
- Four Christian Views of Evolution
5Science
- The use of experiment to test theories about the
laws of nature. - Science is about things which can be measured.
6Science
- Scientific knowledge is quantitative
- Scientific knowledge changes and improves over
time - Scientific knowledge is neither true nor false,
but rather consistent with the observations and
consistent with prior knowledge
7Religion
- Religion is a belief in something
- The belief is not necessarily substantiated by
physical or material evidence - Religious knowledge obtained through holy
writings, authority, revelations - Religious believers have faith or trust in such
knowledge
8Religion
- Religious knowledge is qualitative not
quantitative. - Religious knowledge is not gotten through
measurement - In religion knowledge is taken as either true or
false. - Religious knowledge is neither progressive, nor
tentative.
9Questions Science Can Answer
- When?
- What?
- Where?
- How many?
- By what means?
10Questions Science Cannot Answer(That Religion
Does Answer)
- Why am I here?
- Is that the right thing to do?
- How valuable am I?
- Does God exist? Does God act (theism)?
- Will that God respond if I pray?
- Do supernatural events (miracles) happen?
- In other words, Religion answers the questions
people actually care about!
11- A statement a scientist should not make (if he or
she is well trained and is not manipulating you) - Evolution is true.
- The Big Bang happened.
- Better statements
- The theory of evolution is by far the best model
we have to explain both the fossil evidence and
the genetic evidence with regard to the origin of
all species. - The Big Bang model is in dramatic agreement will
all known facts about the origin and history of
the universe. - Science seeks consistency, not truth. What is
the simplest and most consistent explanation of
the observation.
12Conclusions about Science and Religion
- Religion and science ask different kinds of
questions and define words differently - Religion and science are two very different world
views but at times they address the identical
information area - If Christianity is true, then the Bible should
not contradict what we know from science.
13- Unanswered questions which seem to relate to
science - Consciousness (what is consciousness and why are
we conscious?) - Origins of life
- Origin of the universe. Why is there anything
(as opposed to nothing) - Origin of Species (this is our topic)
14Galileo Galilei (1564-1642)
The Bible was written to tell us how to go to
heaven, not how the heavens go In discussions
of physical problems we ought to begin not from
the authority of scriptural passages, but from
the sense-experiences and necessary
demonstrations.
15Galileo on Revelation
- For the Holy Bible and the phenomena of nature
proceed alike from the divine Word, the former as
the dictate of the Holy Spirit and the latter as
the observant executor of Gods commands. - Is there such a thing as Natural
Revelation/General Revelation? (as opposed to
special revelation) In other words, can we
gather genuine knowledge of God from looking at
his creation?
16Sir Isaac Newton (1642-1727) The
Mechanical Universe Introduced idea of deism (an
uninvolved God)
17LaPlace (1749-1827)
About God I have no need of that hypothesis
18It is mere rubbish to think at this point of
the origin of life. One might as well think of
the origin of matter.
Charles Darwin Might the origin if species be
deisticgoverned by natural processes?
19The Conservative Christian Reaction
Clarence Darrow and William Jennings Bryan
201940s and afterward Young Earth Creationism
Movement Very Bad Science!
21Can Science and Religion peacefully coexist?
- The Language of God
- Head of Genome Project
- Head of National Institutes of Health (NIH)
22Reasons Collins believes in God
- 1. There is something instead of nothing.
- 2. The unreasonable effectiveness of mathematics.
- 3. The Big Bang.
- 4. Nature does not solve the problem of why.
- 5. Fine tuning of the universe. The Goldilocks
Paradox. - 6. The existence of moral law.
- 7. Let me add The obvious inspiration of the
Bible.
23The Age of the Universe and the Age of the Earth
- Bishop Ussher 1640 The universe was created on
Sunday October 23, 4004 BC
24Cosmic Speedometer
- When a galaxy is receding, light waves travelling
to us are red-shifted - Hubble measured the spectrum of these galaxies
and found the spectral lines to be red-shifted
- The faster the recession, the greater the
red-shift
25Galaxies islands of stars making up the universe
26Hubble constant graphDistance vs. speed of
regression
27Expansion of the Universe
winding backwards, the universe must have had
a beginning
28Image of Cosmic Microwave Background Radiation
From COBE satellite red slightly warmer The
smoking gun of the Big Bang
29Tests of the Big Bang Theory
- Expansion of the universe
- Cosmic microwave background
- Relative abundances of hydrogen, deuterium,
helium and lithium
30Obtaining the Age of the Universe
- Extrapolate the current expansion rate (Hubble
constant) back to the Big Bang - 13.5 billion years
- Look for the oldest stars (in globular clusters)
- 13.0 billion years old
- Best current estimate is 13.4 0.4 billion years
M10 Globular Cluster
31How Old is the Earth?
- James Hutton, 1787 Uniformitarianism No
vestige of a beginning, no concept of an end.
32Deep Time
33Index fossils give the relative age of a rock
34Radiometric Dating Techniques
mother/daughter isotope pair half-life
U238 ? Pb206 4.5 billion years
U235 ? Pb207 704 million years
K40 ? Ar40 1.25 billion years
Th232 ? Pb208 14.8 billion years
35Genesis Chapter One Creation
- Young Earth Theory
- Earth is young and science supports this
conclusion. - Earth is young because God created it with an
appearance of age. - Day/Age Theory
- Gap Theory
- A huge gap of time between Genesis 11 and 12
- Literary Theory
- Its all just a myth
- Each view has its problems
36A Quick Summary of Genesis One
- a. God pre-existed the universe
- b. God created the universe Let there be
light - c. God created the earth
- d. God created life
- e. Last of all, God created mankind
37A More Detailed Summary of Genesis OneFrom the
Viewpoint of an Observer on the Earth
- a. The earth created and is spinning night and
day. Day 1 - b. Water covers earth, Very thick atmosphere
forms. Day 2 - c. The earth cools, land appears out of the
water. Day 3 - d. Life appears on the earth. Day 3
- e. (Photosynthetic life dramatically changes the
chemistry of the atmosphere from reducing to
oxidizing.) - f. Finally, the heavenly objects appeared in the
sky Day 4 - g. More advanced life forms first in the water,
later on the land Day 5 - h. Even more advanced life forms. Last of all
human beings Day 6 - Where is the scientific error in this?
38Is Genesis 11 a Myth?
- Yes! It is a true myth.
- A myth is a simplified story, given to explain
the gods (or God) to common people.
39Is the Metaphorical Day a Reasonable
Interpretation?Pre-Science Theologians Who Said
Yes.
- Philo 1st century
- Origen early 3rd century
- Augustine early 5th century
- Thomas Aquinas 13th century
40Evolution and the Bible
- What does the Bible say?
- God created all life in its various forms, but
how did he do this? Remember, the Bible is not a
science book. - What does the physical evidence say?
- Fossil evidence
- Genetic/DNA evidence
- Is there Irreducible Complexity?
- What about human evolution?
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42Finches discovered And drawn by Charles
Darwin Evidence of Evolution?
43Evolution of whales over time?
44Evolution of horses?
45Morphological Evidence of Common Descent
46Human chromosome 2 and Great Ape chromosome
2p, 2q evidence for common descent.
47More Genetic Evidence for Common Descent
- Pseudogenes
- Vitamin C Pseudogene in great apes and humans
- Retroposons, SINEs (short interspersed
elements), etc. - Viral insertions
- Bottom line, genetic evidence, at least in the
big picture, strongly supports common descent.
48table 1 Gene sequence thatcodes for protein Random DNA segmentbetween genes
Chimpanzee 100 98
Dog 99 52
Mouse 99 40
Chicken 75 4
Fruitfly 60 0
Roundworm 35 0
Typical random point mutation rates are about
1x10-5 1x10-7 mutations/generation. 5 million
years 250,000 generations. Sufficient for
random mutations to explain the change without
the intervention of a guiding hand?
49But..
- The Cambrian Explosion
- Punctuated Equilibrium?
- Theistic Evolution
50Fossils from creatures which appeared in the
Cambrian Explosion
51Life in the Cambrian
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53Some Tentative Conclusions
- Evolution has happened. Microevolution has been
observed. - Fossil evidence strongly supports the idea of
change over time, but that change often happens
in surprisingly sudden bursts. The Cambrian
explosion raises real questions. - Genetic evidence gives rather strong support to
the idea of common descent. - Like it or not, this is true of humans as well.
- Statistical and other arguments give support for
evolution being theistic, rather than deistic,
but this is not a scientific argument. - God invented evolution let us give him credit
for a great idea.
54Four Christian Views of Evolution
- Young Earth Creationism
- Scientific Young Earth
- Theological Young Earth
- Intelligent Design
- Theistic Evolution
- Evolutionary Creationism
55Scientific Young Earth Creationism
- A scientific hypothesis that the earth is young
and, for all practical purposes, evolution has
not happened. - The scientific young earth view rejects
cosmology, geology and evolution. In effect, it
rejects science altogether. - It requires rejecting science and general
revelation. (Galileo and geocentrism) - This is not scientific. It is anti-scientific.
Why? There is literally no evidence the earth is
young.
56Theological Young Earth Creationism
- A purely theological hypothesis that God created
the earth with an appearance of age. - Rejects cosmology, geology and evolution, but not
science in general because the rejection is
theological, not scientific. - This view is NOT anti-scientific.
- How old was the wine Jesus created?
- Rejects general revelation?
- As a theological view, it is possible, but
problematic. Is God tricking us?
57Young Earth Summary
- Scientific Young Earth Creationism is VERY bad
science. - Theological Young Earth Creationism is not bad
science, but it raises difficult theological
questions.
58Intelligent Design (ID)/Progressive Creationism
- Accepts Cosmology
- Accepts Geology
- Rejects Evolution? Rejects macroevolution.
Rejects common descent. Skeptical of evolution.
Argues for irreducible complexity. - Uses God-of-the-gaps arguments
- Note God-of-the-gaps arguments are NOT
scientific (even if they are true!). - Tends to confuse theological issues with
scientific ones. - Carries baggage from predestination/Calvinism?
- I agree with the theology of ID, but am hesitant
about the science of ID. There is a sense in
which it is not scientific.
59Theistic Evolution
- Accepts cosmology, geology and evolution as
scientific hypothesis. - Accepts common descent as a good scientific
(note, scientific) hypothesis. - Sees both free will and Gods sovereign will in
history, in individuals and in nature. - God works through evolution, but he directs the
path, either by subtly directing it or by
dramatic intervention. - Although some scientific evidence and even
statistical arguments support this conclusion it
is a purely theological hypothesis.
60Theistic Evolution (cont.)
- Gods relationship with history is theistic, but
with free will. - Gods relationship with us is theistic, but with
free will. - Gods relationship with nature is theistic, but
with free will. - God gives us free will, in that choosing to
reject God is not completely unreasonable. God
uses nature to support our faith but not to
demand it. - Although the evidence supports evolution of human
beings, Adam and Eve were special creations. - John the Baptist Out of these stones, God can
raise up children of Abraham. - The fish Jesus created had retroposons,
pseudogenes and viral insertions.
61Evolutionary Creationism
- Accepts cosmology, geology and evolution.
- Accepts common descent as both a scientific and a
theological hypothesis. - Evolution was a purely natural, undirected
process. - God is the designer, who, in his incredible
wisdom and foreknowledge, set the universe and
evolution in motion. - Hypothesizes a God-of-no-gaps.
- If God had to intervene in the free process of
evolution, that would be to lessen Goda God who
had to correct his mistakes.
62Evolutionary Creationism
- Adam and Eve are not real persons. They are
symbolic. The human soul and spirit evolved,
along with our intelligence and other abilities. - Accepts the literary view of Genesis 1-3.
- The Bible has incorrect science because God
accommodates our primitive understanding. - Gods relationship with history is theistic, but
with free will. - Gods relationship with us is theistic, but with
free will. - Gods relationship with nature is deistic. God
does not intervene. - Good science, but questionable theology.
63Summary
- There is no view without any problems, either
logical, scientific or theological. - Obviously, I prefer the position described as
Theological Evolution, but I may be wrong. - This is not a salvation issue. We should be
tolerant of divergent views on unimportant
doctrines. (Titus 39) - All agree that we are fearfully and wonderfully
made. that all Gods works are wonderful (Psalm
13914)