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GIST The NSIS Transport Layerdraft-ietf-nsis-nt
lp-09.txt
  • Robert Hancock, Henning Schulzrinne (editors)
  • IETF66 Montréal
  • July 2006

2
Status Inputs
  • Version -09 released 9th February
  • Taking account of WGLC comments, and other
    comments that arose while processing WGLC
    comments, etc.
  • Very thorough review by Magnus
  • Thread starts at http//www1.ietf.org/mail-archive
    /web/nsis/current/msg06306.html
  • Some additional points turned up in the issue
    tracker in the meantime
  • http//nsis.srmr.co.uk/cgi-bin/roundup.cgi/nsis-nt
    lp-issues/index

3
Status Current Snapshot
  • Stepping stone to v10 can be seen at
    http//nsis.srmr.co.uk/nsis/draft-ietf-nsis-ntlp-1
    0-v1.txt
  • Takes account of Magnus L1, L3, L5, L7, L8, L9,
    L11, L12, L14, part L15, L16, L20, L21, L22, L23,
    L25, N2, N4, N5, N6, part N7, N8, N9 (and issue
    111, which is new)
  • No mods for L4, L13, L17, L18, N3
  • See D.1 for the details of what has changed where
  • Still updating for the other points (following ML
    discussion), a couple of issues worth
    highlighting here

4
I Transport-related parameter values (M1, L10,
L15)
  • General concern that there is too much
    implementation freedom in setting the tunable
    parameters of the protocol
  • Applies to
  • Backoff parameters during handshake
  • Rate limits for D mode
  • Handshake lifetime
  • Hello frequency
  • Probe frequency

5
Parameter Proposals
  • For backoff, used SIP (rfc3261 17.1.1.2) as a
    starting point
  • The default value for T1 is 500 ms. T1 is an
    estimate of the RTT between the client and server
    transactions. Elements MAY use smaller values
    of T1 if it is known that the Query should be
    answered within the local network. T1 MAY be
    chosen larger, and this is RECOMMENDED if it is
    known in advance (such as on high latency access
    links) that the RTT is larger. Whatever the value
    of T1, the exponential backoffs on
    retransmissions described in this section MUST be
    used. The value of T264T1.
  • Could allow T1 to be adaptive based on timing
    information for previous Queries for that MRI
    however, its not clear how much value this
    provides
  • You only really care about fine-tuning T1 for new
    flows/after route changes, when no valid feedback
    is available
  • For handshake lifetime, probe and hello
    frequency recommend a default value of 30
    seconds (with SHOULD force).

6
Rate Limiting (1/2)
  • Trickier situation is D-mode rate limiting.
    Current spec (see section 5.3.3) only requires
    the use of a token bucket without giving bucket
    parameters
  • Why a token bucket? From following the ICMPv6
    specification discussions (about 65 messages from
    January 2004)
  • Basic problem the bucket parameters depend on
    the size of the router, which is a nebulous
    concept to pin down

7
Rate Limiting (2/2)
  • 4 options
  • Leave this part of 5.3.3 as it is
  • Use some example non-normative numbers
  • Cf. RFC4443 The rate-limiting parameters SHOULD
    be configurable. In the case of a token-bucket
    implementation, the best defaults depend on where
    the implementation is expected to be deployed
    (e.g., a high-end router vs. an embedded host).
    For example, in a small/mid-size device, the
    possible defaults could be B10, N10/s.
  • Relate it to some other more intuitive sizing
    parameters, such as sessions and session
    lifetime
  • Define an adaptive scheme (not clear if this is
    even possible)

8
II IANA Considerations
  • Need a number of technical and procedural
    clarifications
  • Depend normatively on extensibility document
  • Clarify applicability of experimental/private
    space (issue 106)
  • Explain rationale for reserved spaces
  • Less restrictive policy for NSLPID allocations?
  • Currently experimental or IESG approval only
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