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1Do you have any children? No. (Laughs) Im
sure of that.
- Identity work from older childless people
- Dr Jill Reynolds BPS Social Psychology Conference
Cambridge, September 2011
2Research questions
- How do childless older people make sense of their
relationships, social networks, absorbing
interests and their social and emotional needs? - Are patterns of sense-making of experience
distinctive in gendered ways?
3Qualitative data from existing datasets
- 80 interviews men and women over 65 years (UKDA
5237, Bowling, A. Adding Quality to Quantity
Quality of Life in Older Age, 2000-2002) of whom
14 had no children (9F5M) - 85 interviews men over 65 years (UKDA 6011 Arber,
S. and Davidson, K., Older Men their Social
Worlds and Healthy Lifestyles, 1999-2002 of whom
15 had no children
4Identifying a self-narrative my assumptions
- an individual's account of the relationship among
several self relevant events across time. In
developing a self-narrative we establish coherent
connections among life events. (Gergen, K.J.
1994 187) - Not one single story waiting to be brought out.
- Narratives shaped to the purpose of that telling.
- Discontinuities, multiple pathways rather than
developmental stages - Canonical narratives (Bruner,1991) culturally
available plots (Mishler, 1999) - Talk rhetorical within the larger argumentative
context of the culture (Billig, 1987)
5Narratives of grandparenting
- Most respondents who were parents produced some
self-narrative in describing life events. - Often these focused on children or grandchildren,
perhaps talking about frequency of visits or of
caring help they received. - In the all male dataset, most bring up children
or grandchildren themselves without waiting to be
asked. - Co-construction of excellence of having children
nearby. - Many parents mention children or grandchildren in
response to what makes them most happy, while
nearly half refer to family on the good things
that give life quality.
6Patterns in narratives of non-parents women
- Most happy seeing someone, friend, brother,
feeling well, being alive, little things - Widows show some accounting in response to
whether they have children - Two widows talk of neighbours children as family
and one of dog as my baby - Those women who do not talk of marriage are
likely to talk of being happy with own company
7Variable accounts of no children 050 f
- R Yes, its the only home Ive had, married
home, (I Mm.) - Lived with my mum for a little while,
(IMm-hm.) You know, cause things were hard just
after the war, you know, you couldnt get
anywhere, and, um, families had priority for
council property, you see, we didnt have any
children, didnt want any. (I Mm.) But sadly we
never did have any children because we were
getting settled and then he was killed, you see.
(I Mm.) So missed out on a family. - I OK and if we talk about your quality of
life now,
8Grandparenting neighbours children 021 f
- R (laughs) But I do Ill tell you one
thing I love in life, and that is I love cats
and dogs I love cats and dogs, and I love
children. (I Mm.) I think the children I love
my neighbours next door, theyve got lots of
grandchildren and I share em. (I Oh!) Yeah,
its lovely. I shared all their children, and,
and the son that little girl sitting on my lap
there is (I Uh-huh.) Is their little girl A, and
shes a lovely little girl, she comes in every
weekend to see me. (I Mm.) Lovely little girl.
9Happy with own company 028 f
- I You've spoken about how you'd like someone to
come and see you (mmhmm) A social worker, is
there anything else which would make the quality
of your life better? - R No, I don't think so, I quite happy how I am.
- I Okay. (short pause) Is there anything which
would make the quality of your life worse? - R (short pause) Well, I suppose loneliness makes
it worse, doesn't it, really? Although I don't
mind my own company.
10Patterns in narratives of non-grandparents men
- Family question meets some accounting from
widowers, or protestations of being a bachelor - One married man talks of being grandma and
grandad to neighbours children - Less self-narrative, questions often met with
factual, abstract answers - Co-construction of male identity as desirable
- New living together relationship of 18 months
(70) - Bachelors often say happy with own company
- Happiness in terms of relationships friends
successes, marriage
11Accounting for no children 025 m
- I Uh-huh. OK - and have you got any children?
- R No children, none at all - been married for 52
years. - I OK, that's fine - I won't ask you too many
questions. - R No, go on, you fire away, I'll be alright.
- I (laughs) OK. Um - what, what do you think of
when you hear the words quality of life?
12Accounting for singleness 045 m
- I OK what would make the quality of your life
better? - R (pause) Well of course Im a single chap and
Im too old for it, for getting married sort of
now to make it better, you see, but Ive got,
cause Ive got friends, lady friends and that.
(Mm-hm.) So I cant, I cant go much further I
cant really expect to (laughs) well at 83, or 84
now. (Mm-hm.) (pause) Yeah, I suppose being a,
being a traveller I missed a lot in my life, but
I couldnt help it because I, I mean I started
off at B, wasnt the work, so it made me go to L
for work, and that started my travelling you
know, and I got to like travelling around
(laughs). - I So what did you miss because of your
travelling? - R Well of course home life, yeah, missed the
home life, had to come away from that.
13Neighbours kids 025 m (1)
- R(pause) Well I'm not too sure I understand -
life quality to me is the simple things of life
we've got. (Mm.) I've got me own things to do,
watercolours, painting. (Uh-huh.) The kids live
all the way round here, (laughs) we've got a load
of them (clock starts to chime). No, but up until
now I've got no problems, we've got our own
little caravan in K, we go down to there, we've
got a car, we get out and about. (Mm.) But I
can't think of anything else that - you know,
it's simple enough but it's happy enough. (Yeah,
yeah.) It's my way of life. (Yeah) Er we've had
no beefs about it, er as I say we've got good
neighbours around here, very good neighbours we
have a lot of fun with them. We're the grandma
and granddad round here. (laughs) Er
14Neighbours kids (2)
- I OK - and (pause) has your life changed a lot
since you retired? - R Oh, yes - work a lot harder since we retired.
Er (pause)....Well decorating is the small
part of it, but we've all just got a very big
garden out the back, that has to be looked after,
though I'm not allowed to do much in. er - and
I've got my own hobbies, watercolours. (pause)
And this time of the year, cause we've got quite
a lot to do for - not got to do, we've got -
there is quite a lot to do for the children, we
make them Christmas cards, things like that.
(Mm.) They've got used to it now and expect it.
Er - there seems to get one more every year. So
this time of the year - well, I say this time of
the year, I didn't, I started doing these way
back in August, so...
15Identity work as desirable still
- Interviewer Have you ever been engaged.
Subject No. - Interviewer Or ever wanted to marry.
- Subject No. I have been chased twice but that is
all. LAUGHS - Interviewer Why didn't you leap what was wrong.
- Subject One was over religious and the other one
was married. - Interviewer Was that recently.
- Subject And I was very interested in her.
LAUGHS - Interviewer And you would never think of
marrying. - Subject Not now no, it is too late, I value my
freedom as it were
16New relationships 29
- Interviewer Is this your first stable
relationship? - Subject Yes, it is, amazingly enough, at my age!
- Interviewer May I ask how you met her, the lady?
- Subject Yes. We met quite by chance. We were on
holiday in Jersey and it was a quite amazing
meeting. It was a SAGA singles holiday and she'd
been widowed and it was her first holiday for
some years and she went rather reluctantly on
holiday. She was persuaded to go by her daughter
and never regretted it! (Laughter) So, I think
that's reasonably unique at this sort of age. - Interviewer Yes, it's very gratifying.
- Subject Very gratifying, yes.
17Attitude concerning children 29
- Naturally, if I'd had children, I'd have wanted a
larger house, yes. - Interviewer The fact that you didn't have
children, is that something which doesn't
concerns you? - Subject I would have liked to, yes, looking back
on it. I suppose that's my main regret that I
didn't have anyone to follow me, but there you
are. - Interviewer Your partner has children?
- Subject She has a daughter.
- Interviewer And do you feel that she's part of
your family? - Subject Yes. We haven't know one another all
that long, but we get on very well, and there is
a closeness which is building up.
18Happiness as relationships
- Interviewer What especially makes you happy now?
- Subject Well the family has got it all together
really you know all the families are doing well
thats always nice - Interviewer When you say families thats
- Subject From hers and mine are reasonably
together and we have lost my sister which of
course is that groups mother but the B side
is all right - Interviewer Nephews and nieces youre
- Subject Yes they are all reasonably near and
they contact me so they are another
19Conclusions
- Research exploring quality or social worlds
appears likely to draw on talk of close
relationships, and having children close by is
often constructed as advantage - Accounting for no children is evident in these
data from both men and women, but more likely to
occur when the participant has been married - Family is a resource that can be drawn on
flexibly by all participants it doesnt just
mean own children or grandchildren, identity work
draws on close relationships. - There is some evidence of gendered presumptions
regarding the social capital (relationships) of
men. - There is a gap in literature on ageing regarding
the experiences and strategies of those without
children
20Jill ReynoldsFaculty of Health Social CareThe
Open UniversityWalton HallMilton KeynesMK7 6AA
- www.open.ac.uk
- j.c.reynolds_at_open.ac.uk