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Do you have any children? No. (Laughs) Im
sure of that.
  • Identity work from older childless people
  • Dr Jill Reynolds BPS Social Psychology Conference
    Cambridge, September 2011

2
Research questions
  • How do childless older people make sense of their
    relationships, social networks, absorbing
    interests and their social and emotional needs?
  • Are patterns of sense-making of experience
    distinctive in gendered ways?

3
Qualitative data from existing datasets
  • 80 interviews men and women over 65 years (UKDA
    5237, Bowling, A. Adding Quality to Quantity
    Quality of Life in Older Age, 2000-2002) of whom
    14 had no children (9F5M)
  • 85 interviews men over 65 years (UKDA 6011 Arber,
    S. and Davidson, K., Older Men their Social
    Worlds and Healthy Lifestyles, 1999-2002 of whom
    15 had no children

4
Identifying a self-narrative my assumptions
  • an individual's account of the relationship among
    several self relevant events across time. In
    developing a self-narrative we establish coherent
    connections among life events. (Gergen, K.J.
    1994 187)
  • Not one single story waiting to be brought out.
  • Narratives shaped to the purpose of that telling.
  • Discontinuities, multiple pathways rather than
    developmental stages
  • Canonical narratives (Bruner,1991) culturally
    available plots (Mishler, 1999)
  • Talk rhetorical within the larger argumentative
    context of the culture (Billig, 1987)

5
Narratives of grandparenting
  • Most respondents who were parents produced some
    self-narrative in describing life events.
  • Often these focused on children or grandchildren,
    perhaps talking about frequency of visits or of
    caring help they received.
  • In the all male dataset, most bring up children
    or grandchildren themselves without waiting to be
    asked.
  • Co-construction of excellence of having children
    nearby.
  • Many parents mention children or grandchildren in
    response to what makes them most happy, while
    nearly half refer to family on the good things
    that give life quality.

6
Patterns in narratives of non-parents women
  • Most happy seeing someone, friend, brother,
    feeling well, being alive, little things
  • Widows show some accounting in response to
    whether they have children
  • Two widows talk of neighbours children as family
    and one of dog as my baby
  • Those women who do not talk of marriage are
    likely to talk of being happy with own company

7
Variable accounts of no children 050 f
  • R Yes, its the only home Ive had, married
    home, (I Mm.)
  • Lived with my mum for a little while,
    (IMm-hm.) You know, cause things were hard just
    after the war, you know, you couldnt get
    anywhere, and, um, families had priority for
    council property, you see, we didnt have any
    children, didnt want any. (I Mm.) But sadly we
    never did have any children because we were
    getting settled and then he was killed, you see.
    (I Mm.) So missed out on a family.
  • I OK and if we talk about your quality of
    life now,

8
Grandparenting neighbours children 021 f
  • R (laughs) But I do Ill tell you one
    thing I love in life, and that is I love cats
    and dogs I love cats and dogs, and I love
    children. (I Mm.) I think the children I love
    my neighbours next door, theyve got lots of
    grandchildren and I share em. (I Oh!) Yeah,
    its lovely. I shared all their children, and,
    and the son that little girl sitting on my lap
    there is (I Uh-huh.) Is their little girl A, and
    shes a lovely little girl, she comes in every
    weekend to see me. (I Mm.) Lovely little girl.

9
Happy with own company 028 f
  • I You've spoken about how you'd like someone to
    come and see you (mmhmm) A social worker, is
    there anything else which would make the quality
    of your life better?
  • R No, I don't think so, I quite happy how I am.
  • I Okay. (short pause) Is there anything which
    would make the quality of your life worse?
  • R (short pause) Well, I suppose loneliness makes
    it worse, doesn't it, really? Although I don't
    mind my own company.

10
Patterns in narratives of non-grandparents men
  • Family question meets some accounting from
    widowers, or protestations of being a bachelor
  • One married man talks of being grandma and
    grandad to neighbours children
  • Less self-narrative, questions often met with
    factual, abstract answers
  • Co-construction of male identity as desirable
  • New living together relationship of 18 months
    (70)
  • Bachelors often say happy with own company
  • Happiness in terms of relationships friends
    successes, marriage

11
Accounting for no children 025 m
  • I Uh-huh. OK - and have you got any children?
  • R No children, none at all - been married for 52
    years.
  • I OK, that's fine - I won't ask you too many
    questions.
  • R No, go on, you fire away, I'll be alright.
  • I (laughs) OK. Um - what, what do you think of
    when you hear the words quality of life?

12
Accounting for singleness 045 m
  • I OK what would make the quality of your life
    better?
  • R (pause) Well of course Im a single chap and
    Im too old for it, for getting married sort of
    now to make it better, you see, but Ive got,
    cause Ive got friends, lady friends and that.
    (Mm-hm.) So I cant, I cant go much further I
    cant really expect to (laughs) well at 83, or 84
    now. (Mm-hm.) (pause) Yeah, I suppose being a,
    being a traveller I missed a lot in my life, but
    I couldnt help it because I, I mean I started
    off at B, wasnt the work, so it made me go to L
    for work, and that started my travelling you
    know, and I got to like travelling around
    (laughs).
  • I So what did you miss because of your
    travelling?
  • R Well of course home life, yeah, missed the
    home life, had to come away from that.

13
Neighbours kids 025 m (1)
  • R(pause) Well I'm not too sure I understand -
    life quality to me is the simple things of life
    we've got. (Mm.) I've got me own things to do,
    watercolours, painting. (Uh-huh.) The kids live
    all the way round here, (laughs) we've got a load
    of them (clock starts to chime). No, but up until
    now I've got no problems, we've got our own
    little caravan in K, we go down to there, we've
    got a car, we get out and about. (Mm.) But I
    can't think of anything else that - you know,
    it's simple enough but it's happy enough. (Yeah,
    yeah.) It's my way of life. (Yeah) Er we've had
    no beefs about it, er as I say we've got good
    neighbours around here, very good neighbours we
    have a lot of fun with them. We're the grandma
    and granddad round here. (laughs) Er

14
Neighbours kids (2)
  • I OK - and (pause) has your life changed a lot
    since you retired?
  • R Oh, yes - work a lot harder since we retired.
    Er (pause)....Well decorating is the small
    part of it, but we've all just got a very big
    garden out the back, that has to be looked after,
    though I'm not allowed to do much in. er - and
    I've got my own hobbies, watercolours. (pause)
    And this time of the year, cause we've got quite
    a lot to do for - not got to do, we've got -
    there is quite a lot to do for the children, we
    make them Christmas cards, things like that.
    (Mm.) They've got used to it now and expect it.
    Er - there seems to get one more every year. So
    this time of the year - well, I say this time of
    the year, I didn't, I started doing these way
    back in August, so...

15
Identity work as desirable still
  • Interviewer Have you ever been engaged.
    Subject No.
  • Interviewer Or ever wanted to marry.
  • Subject No. I have been chased twice but that is
    all. LAUGHS
  • Interviewer Why didn't you leap what was wrong.
  • Subject One was over religious and the other one
    was married.
  • Interviewer Was that recently.
  • Subject And I was very interested in her.
    LAUGHS
  • Interviewer And you would never think of
    marrying.
  • Subject Not now no, it is too late, I value my
    freedom as it were

16
New relationships 29
  • Interviewer Is this your first stable
    relationship?
  • Subject Yes, it is, amazingly enough, at my age!
  • Interviewer May I ask how you met her, the lady?
  • Subject Yes. We met quite by chance. We were on
    holiday in Jersey and it was a quite amazing
    meeting. It was a SAGA singles holiday and she'd
    been widowed and it was her first holiday for
    some years and she went rather reluctantly on
    holiday. She was persuaded to go by her daughter
    and never regretted it! (Laughter) So, I think
    that's reasonably unique at this sort of age.
  • Interviewer Yes, it's very gratifying.
  • Subject Very gratifying, yes.

17
Attitude concerning children 29
  • Naturally, if I'd had children, I'd have wanted a
    larger house, yes.
  • Interviewer The fact that you didn't have
    children, is that something which doesn't
    concerns you?
  • Subject I would have liked to, yes, looking back
    on it. I suppose that's my main regret that I
    didn't have anyone to follow me, but there you
    are.
  • Interviewer Your partner has children?
  • Subject She has a daughter.
  • Interviewer And do you feel that she's part of
    your family?
  • Subject Yes. We haven't know one another all
    that long, but we get on very well, and there is
    a closeness which is building up.

18
Happiness as relationships
  • Interviewer What especially makes you happy now?
  • Subject Well the family has got it all together
    really you know all the families are doing well
    thats always nice
  • Interviewer When you say families thats
  • Subject From hers and mine are reasonably
    together and we have lost my sister which of
    course is that groups mother but the B side
    is all right
  • Interviewer Nephews and nieces youre
  • Subject Yes they are all reasonably near and
    they contact me so they are another

19
Conclusions
  • Research exploring quality or social worlds
    appears likely to draw on talk of close
    relationships, and having children close by is
    often constructed as advantage
  • Accounting for no children is evident in these
    data from both men and women, but more likely to
    occur when the participant has been married
  • Family is a resource that can be drawn on
    flexibly by all participants it doesnt just
    mean own children or grandchildren, identity work
    draws on close relationships.
  • There is some evidence of gendered presumptions
    regarding the social capital (relationships) of
    men.
  • There is a gap in literature on ageing regarding
    the experiences and strategies of those without
    children

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Jill ReynoldsFaculty of Health Social CareThe
Open UniversityWalton HallMilton KeynesMK7 6AA
  • www.open.ac.uk
  • j.c.reynolds_at_open.ac.uk
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