Title: Faith and Reason Are they compatible Answer: It depends
1Faith and Reason-- Are they compatible?Answer
It depends!
2Galileo and The Scientific Revolution
- Subplot The relationship of Faith and Reason
- Sub-subplot The modern analogy of Deep
Time/Evolution vs. Creationism
3In Galileos Time400 years ago
- They were definitely incompatible!
- Caused by flawed views of both Faith and Reason
4One definition of Theology is Fide quaerens
intellectum
- Which translates
- Faith seeking understanding
- I think this applies aptly to the Galileo story
5Another false understanding of Faith and Reason
IMHO -)
- Faith is believing what you know aint so - Mark
Twain
6And this kind of idea exists todayamong the
evangelical Atheists
- E.g., Richard Dawkins, The God Delusion
7In Galileos time, the incompatibility of Faith
and Reason was caused by
- Faith in overly literal prooftexting of certain
Scripture verses and the infallibility of Church
tradition - Reason according to the old Aristotelian (or
Peripatetic) system
8Creation versus Creationism
- Cores 5 6 will cover this
9Different categories of knowledge
- Creation There is a Creator! (Who and Why)
- For Christians, the Why is manifest in the
Incarnation when the Creator becomes Creature and
relates to us... - John 11-14
- Creationism The details of How creation occurs
- According to a literal reading of a religious
text or tradition, whatever that may be - For some Christians, this means a six 24-hour
day creation according to a particular reading of
Genesis 11- 24a - And particular is very important to any
discussion! - The Atheist acknowledges that only one category
of knowledge exists namely Nature! - The Believer --- Christian or otherwise says that
this is an incomplete view of reality
10This conflict became evident with the advent of
Scientific Method
- Dr. Jennifer Coys lecture mentioned Scientific
Method with its systematic observation and
testing of results. - (Hopefully) Cores 56 will expand upon this! ?
- Arguably, Galileo was the first scientist in the
modern sense of the word. - Observations of Nature just kept getting in the
way of traditional ideas. - Important questions
- Did these new ideas eliminate the need for Faith
and God? - Is atheism the more enlightened view?
11Some Wisdom from the Past
12St. Thomas Aquinasfrom Summa Theologica (1273)
- "In discussing questions of this kind two rules
are to be observed, as Augustine teaches. The
first is, to hold to the truth of Scripture
without wavering. The second is that since Holy
Scripture can be explained in a multiplicity of
senses, one should adhere to a particular
explanation only in such measure as to be ready
to abandon it if it be proved with certainty to
be false, lest Holy Scripture be exposed to the
ridicule of unbelievers, and obstacles be placed
to their believing."
13Compare these quotes
- The Peripatetics, as the followers of Aristotle
were called, could not accept the view that the
new star was located among the fixed stars. They
believed that the celestial region was perfect
and immutable. They said that since the star was
new it could not be in the immutable celestial
region, so it must be in the terrestrial region,
closer to Earth than the moon, and Galileo must
be wrong. Text, p. 44.
14And this from a modern creationist organization
- No apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in
any field, including history and chronology, can
be valid if it contradicts the Scriptural
record. - Answers in Genesis Statement of Faith,
Section D6
15What is the Philosophy of Science?
- Page 72 But I do not feel obliged to believe
that that same God who has endowed us with
senses, reason, and intellect has intended to
forgo their use and by some other means to give
us knowledge which we can attain by them. He
would not require us to deny sense and reason in
physical matters which are set before our eyes
and minds by direct experience or necessary
demonstrations. - Galileo
16Basically, this means that observations of nature
through our senses and instruments can be trusted
- This philosophy is foundational to the
Scientific Method - Galileo referred to the Book of Nature
- Or what I like to call the Other Book of
Creation - This is a typical attitude of believers of any
faith who also accept the body of knowledge of
science to explain the how of creation.
17Galileo was also a man of Faith
- Page 71 I think in the first place that it is
very pious to say and prudent to affirm that the
holy Bible can never speak untruth whenever its
true meaning is understood. But I believe nobody
will deny that it is often very abstruse, and may
say things which are quite different from what
its bare words signify. Galileo - Note This statement is very similar to what a
modern Christian theistic evolutionist such as
Francis Collins would say! - The Language of God A Scientist Presents
Evidence for Belief
18Scripture teaches us how to go to heaven, not
how the heavens go. The Starry Messenger, 1610
- Are Faith and Reason completely separate areas
with no overlap? - Cores 56 explore this -
- Look for the NOMA concept
19The Ancient Greeks strove for perfection
- What are the perfect geometrical figures?
- Lines and Circles!
- Recall high school geometry class?
20The Ancients Combined Two Ideals Perfection of
the Heavens and Importance of Earth (Geocentrism)
- Stars and Planets including (Sun and Moon) go in
circular orbits around Earth on crystal spheres
21One problem with modelRetrograde Motion of Mars
- This is what we saw looking at Mars in 1995
- Note at one point it seems to go backwards
- Ptolemy also saw this in 100 A.D. and had to
modify the model
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Earth-centered and circular orbits
32NICOLAUS COPERNICUS - 1543
- Said the hypothesis of the Sun at the center is a
simpler explanation of the data - Simplicity is also part of the philosophy of
science - New insight - he stated that perceived motion is
relative - What appears to us as motions of the
Sun arise not from its motion but from the motion
of Earth. - The Copernican system is what Galileo found
support for (not proof of!) with his wonderfully
systematic observations of the heavens
33The Copernican System
34The Copernican System and its Flaws
- Galileos observations contradicted Ptolemys
system and supported (not proved!) the Copernican
system - But this system was also not completely correct!
- Copernicus system also assumed circular orbits
(old ideas die hard!) and added epicycles like
Ptolemy did - Galileo ignored the writings of Johannes Kepler,
who determined a more correct system elliptical
orbits - Galileo also was incorrect on the cause of tides
pg. 82
35Before we look at evidence for Copernicus
System, lets see Galileos use of Scientific
Method against the Peripatetics (Aristotle)
- Galileo disproved Aristotles physics in the area
of falling bodies by a test (Scientific Method!) - Aristotle believed that objects of different
weight would fall at different rates - he also believed that the rate of fall and the
ability to float would depend on shape, which is
actually correct! - The following story may be apocryphal He dropped
objects of different weights from the Leaning
Tower of Pisa
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40- Both the stone ball and Galileos worst critic
fell at the same speed
41What Galileo did do for sure was to experiment
with pendulums
42The period of the swing was the same for cork and
lead bobs this is the same result as the
Leaning Tower of Pisa experimenttv(2L/g)
43Galileo and His Telescope
44Galileo and His Telescope
- Galileo builds a telescope in 1609
- He wasnt the inventor, but he did improve the
design, and he was the first to use it to study
the heavens systematically - Brought the Cosmos 10-30 times closer and
revealed facts that shattered some old ideas
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46He found craters, mountains, and valleys on the
Moon
- But this was really only a small problem for the
Old view since the Moon was close to an imperfect
Earth, but Galileo found it to be a bit more
imperfect than Aristotle would have thought
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48Now the Conflict
- Old idea - Earth does not rotate and no other
planet has a moon, and all bodies orbit Earth - Copernicus used Math to say Earth does rotate.
- Galileo found spots on the Sun. They showed the
Sun rotated and has imperfections - Galileo observed that Jupiter rotated --- and had
moons (the Medicean Planets) - Galileo observed that Venus had phases like the
Moon and it changed size with its phases,
supporting that it orbits the Sun not Earth
49SUNSPOTS
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52The Conflict
- Old Idea - Everything In The Universe Orbits
Around Earth. - But Galileo found planets that go around
Jupiter, not Earth
53The Galilean Moons or Medicean Planets
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62The Conflict
- Old Idea - Everything In The Universe Orbits
Around Earth. - Galileo found that the planet Venus has phases,
like our Moon. - Phases, by themselves only mean that Venus is
between Earth and the Sun, which is consistent
with the Old view - But, he observed the planet changes size with its
phases, and this is only possible with a
non-circular orbit.
63The Phases of Venus
64More Conflict -didnt need a telescope for this
one!
- OLD IDEA - The stars are attached to a giant
sphere, in an immutable celestial region - OBSERVATION that got in the way in 1604 a new
star -- a Nova -- appeared in the sky. This
is sometimes called Keplers Star. - This new star showed no parallax, meaning that
it was a great distance from Earth it was in
the perfect stellar region - But according to the Peripatetics (Aristotles
followers) this couldnt be!
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66The observations must be wrong, not the
traditional views
- Remember this quote from the text?
67- The Peripatetics, as the followers of Aristotle
were called, could not accept the view that the
new star was located among the fixed stars. They
believed that the celestial region was perfect
and immutable. They said that since the star was
new it could not be in the immutable celestial
region, so it must be in the terrestrial region,
closer to Earth than the moon, and Galileo must
be wrong. Text, p. 44.
68Quotes from some ChurchmenMartin Luther
- "People gave ear to an upstart astrologer to show
that the earth revolves, not the heavens or the
firmament, sun and the moon... This fool or
fellow wants to reverse the entire science of
astronomy but sacred Scriptures tell us that
Joshua commanded the sun to stand still, and not
the earth." - Table Talk (Tischreden)
69Quotes from some ChurchmenJohn Calvin
- Those that assert that 'the earth moves and
turns'... are motivated by a spirit of
faultfinding possessed by the devil, they aim to
pervert the order of nature. Sermon 8 on
First Corinthians - "Who will place the authority of Copernicus above
that of the Holy Spirit?" - Commentary on Genesis
70Quotes from some ChurchmenRobert Cardinal
Bellarmine from Galileos Trial
- "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun
is as erroneous as the claim that Jesus Christ
was not born of a virgin." - "His (Galileos) pretended discovery vitiates the
whole Christian plan of salvation.
71Galileo runs afoul of the Inquisition
- Publishes three controversial books Letters on
Sunspots, The Assayer, and Dialogue of the Two
Greatest Systems in the World - Galileo was a man who valued both Faith and
Reason, and the culture wasnt ready for this yet - Two big problems for him
- He valued both his scientific discoveries
(reason) and his Catholic faith, and wasnt
willing to compromise either - He had a witty and sarcastic style which
irritated his politically powerful opponents, and
he seemed a bit naïve to this effect
72Fact or Theory?Evidence or Proof?
- These terms were misunderstood in Galileos time
and - Theyre still misunderstood today!
- See Foscarinis quote on page 74
73I say that if a real proof be found that the sun
is fixed and does not revolve around the earth,
but the earth around the sun, then it will be
necessary, very carefully, to proceed to the
explanation of the passages of Scripture which
appear to be contrary, and we should say rather
that we have misunderstood these than pronounce
to be false which is demonstrated. (Emphasis
mine -RO)
74Several issues are eerily similar to what one
sees in creationist arguments
- The confusion of evidence with proof
- The false distinction of Operational and
Origins science - p. 75 Gods creation was
becoming an object of direct human observation,
which could be interpreted without the help of
the Scriptures or religion. - Misrepresentation of scientific arguments See
p. 74 for the two accusations submitted to the
Inquisition against Galileo, neither of which
were his own words.
75Several issues are eerily similar to what one
sees in creationist arguments
- The teach the controversy argument of the
modern Intelligent Design Movement smacks a bit
of Galileos forced disclaimer in Dialogue - The Copernican doctrine is neither true nor
conclusive and it would be excessive boldness for
anyone to limit and restrict the Divine Power and
Wisdom to one particular fancy of his own. p.
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76Galileos sarcastic wit gets him in trouble
- The character who stands for Church authority in
Dialogue is named Simplicio (simpleton) - Simplicio can only admit arguments that come from
traditional texts, not from physical evidence - Pope Urban VIII may have thought Galileo was
referring to him - In any case Urban despised Galileo to the end
p. 96
77Galileos Trial in 1633
- The way in which Galileo reacted to this action
(the Inquisition trial) is a proof of his own
inner conflict. Had he been less devout a
Catholic, he could have refused to go before the
Inquisition in Rome On the other hand, had he
been less convinced of his scientific opinions,
he could have given them up and remained at peace
with the men representing the Church in his time.
78Galileos Trial page 85
- Trumped-up charges using possibly false documents
- Galileo caved after months of moral torture and
gave a pitiful recantation of his scientific
views
79Galileos Trial Epilogue
- Eppur si muove And yet it moves Did Galileo
say this after his trial? This is an Italian
legend from the 18th century, which at least
shows popular support for his struggle. - Postponed progress in astronomy in Catholic
countries for decades - Englishman Isaac Newton combined his new theories
of gravity with the Kepler model and perfected it
a century later - Some later Roman Catholic Church doctrine
- 1757 Benedict XIV allowed teaching that Earth
moves - 1893 Leo XIII issues Providentissimus Deus which
gives a view of Science and Scripture very
similar to Galileos - Today The Roman Catholic Church has a very
open-minded view of Faith and Reason, more
precisely Catholic Faith and Natural Science. - A famous statement is John Paul IIs Truth Cannot
Contradict Truth. - Here are some parting words from a committed
Christian who is also a respected scientist -
80Francis Collins, M.D., Ph.D. Head of the Human
Genome Project
- I think scientist-believers are the most
fortunate. We have the opportunity to explore the
natural world at a time in history where
mysteries are being revealed almost on a daily
basis. We have the opportunity to perceive the
unraveling of those mysteries in a special
perspective that is an uncovering of God's
grandeur. This is a particularly wonderful form
of worship. - - Faith and the Human Genome, Paper given to the
2002 ASA convention