Title: The GSI anomaly
1The GSI anomaly
- Alexander Merle
- Max-Planck-Institute for Nuclear Physics
- Heidelberg
- Based on H. Kienert, J. Kopp, M. Lindner, AM
- The GSI anomaly
- 0808.2389 hep-ph
- Neutrino 2008 Conf. Proc.
- Trento, 18.11.2008
2Contents
- The Observation at GSI
- The Experiment
- Problems Errors
- Our more formal Treatment
- One question
- Conclusions
31. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
41. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
exponential law
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
51. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
periodic modulation
exponential law
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
61. The Observation at GSI
Periodic modula-tion of the expect-ed exponential
law in EC-decays of different highly charged ions
(Pm-142 Pr-140)
Litvinov et al Phys. Lett. B664, 162 (2008)
72. The Experiment
82. The Experiment
See previous talk by Yuri Litvinov!
92. The Experiment
See previous talk by Yuri Litvinov! ? I will only
give a short summary.
102. The Experiment
112. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
122. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR)
132. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron)
142. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron) ? Frenquency
measurement (by Schottky-Pickups)
152. The Experiment
Injection of a single type of ions
? Storage in the Experimental Storage Ring
(ESR) ? Cooling (stochastic
electron) ? Frenquency
measurement (by Schottky-Pickups) ? due to
cooling (?v/v ? 0), the fre-quency only depends
on the mass over charge ratio M/Q
16Lifetime determination
17Lifetime determination
18Lifetime determination
19Lifetime determination
- the lifetimes of individual ions are determined
20Lifetime determination
- the lifetimes of individual ions are determined
- their distribution is plotted
21Lifetime determination
- the lifetimes of individual ions are determined
- their distribution is plotted
- the result is NOT only an exponential law
223. Problems Errors
233. Problems Errors
Experimental problems oddities
243. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
253. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
only 2650
decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
? both fits, with the modified and
pure exponential curve, are not so different
(e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68)
263. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
only 2650
decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
? both fits, with the modified and
pure exponential curve, are not so different
(e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68) - unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
us)
273. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
only 2650
decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
? both fits, with the modified and
pure exponential curve, are not so different
(e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68) - unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
us) - If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
events.
283. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
only 2650
decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
? both fits, with the modified and
pure exponential curve, are not so different
(e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68) - unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
us) - If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
events.
? Mann-Whitney-Test The
probability that the remaining fluctuations are
random is about 5 (a truly random list would
give about 30 or so).
293. Problems Errors
- Experimental problems oddities
- low statistics
only 2650
decays of Pr and 2740 of Pm
? both fits, with the modified and
pure exponential curve, are not so different
(e.g. for Pm ?2/D.O.F.0.91 vs. 1.68) - unexplained statistical features (pointed out by
us) - If we take the data and subtract the best-fit
function, the res-ulting errors are significantly
SMALLER than the statistical error vN for N
events.
? Mann-Whitney-Test The
probability that the remaining fluctuations are
random is about 5 (a truly random list would
give about 30 or so).
? the fit
function seems to confuse some fluctuations with
real data
303. Problems Errors
313. Problems Errors
Physical errors
323. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations!
333. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
343. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
353. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
363. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
ve
373. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
ve ? amplitude is given by a COHERENT SUM
383. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - neutrino oscillations
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve), then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei), and is then detected as FLAVOUR eigenstate
? more than one way to reach THE SAME final state
ve ? amplitude is given by a COHERENT SUM
393. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
403. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
413. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei)
423. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei)
? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
measurement
433. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei)
? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
measurement ? amplitude is given by
an INCOHERENT SUM
443. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- The process is NOT analogous to neutrino
oscillations! - GSI experiment
- the neutrino is produced as FLAVOUR eigenstate
(e.g. ve) and then propagates as superposition of
MASS eigenstates (vi with i1,2,3, and admixtures
Uei)
? BUT there is no second FLAVOUR
measurement ? amplitude is given by
an INCOHERENT SUM
453. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- This has been done differently in
463. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- This has been done differently in
- Ivanov, Reda,
Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen,
Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen, Pitschmann,
Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501 (2008)
- Faber 0801.3262 nucl-th
- Lipkin 0801.1465 hep-ph
- Lipkin 0805.0435
hep-ph
- Walker
Nature 453, 864 (2008)
473. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- This has been done differently in
- Ivanov, Reda,
Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen,
Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen,
Pitschmann, Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501
(2008) - Faber 0801.3262
nucl-th
- Lipkin
0801.1465 hep-ph
-
Lipkin 0805.0435 hep-ph
- Walker Nature 453, 864 (2008) - Works that agree with us
483. Problems Errors
- Physical errors
- This has been done differently in
- Ivanov, Reda,
Kienle 0801.2121 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen,
Pitschmann, Kienle 0804.1311 nucl-th
- Ivanov, Kryshen, Pitschmann,
Kienle Phys. Rev. Lett. 101, 182501 (2008)
- Faber 0801.3262 nucl-th
- Lipkin 0801.1465 hep-ph
- Lipkin 0805.0435
hep-ph
- Walker
Nature 453, 864 (2008) - Works that agree with us
- Giunti
0801.4639 hep-ph
-
Giunti Phys. Lett. B665, 92 (2008)
- Burkhardt et al. 0804.1099 hep-ph
- Peshkin 0804.4891
hep-ph
- Peshkin
0811.1765 hep-ph
-
Gal 0809.1213 nucl-th
- Cohen, Glashow, Ligeti 0810.4602
hep-ph
493. Problems Errors
Further points
503. Problems Errors
- Further points
- wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
atmospheric ?m2
513. Problems Errors
- Further points
- wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
atmospheric ?m2 - necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
(yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
time doubtful
523. Problems Errors
- Further points
- wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
atmospheric ?m2 - necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
(yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
time doubtful - other (but different!) experiments have not
found the oscila-tory behavior
Vetter et al. 0807.0649 nucl-ex
Faestermann et al. 0807.3297
nucl-ex
533. Problems Errors
- Further points
- wrong ?m210-4 eV2 ? neither solar nor
atmospheric ?m2 - necessary energy splitting ?E10-15 eV ? not
(yet) explained, coherence over the experiment
time doubtful - other (but different!) experiments have not
found the oscila-tory behavior
Vetter et al. 0807.0649 nucl-ex
Faestermann et al. 0807.3297
nucl-ex - wrong statement
ve and vµ
are called mass eigenstates by Walker, Nature
453, 864 (2008) ? OBVIOUSLY WRONG!!!
544. Our more formal treatment
554. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing.
564. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. We have
shown, that, even when using wave packets, this
is not the case and neutrino mixing is not
related to any oscilla-tions in the decay rate.
574. Our more formal treatment
Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. We have
shown, that, even when using wave packets, this
is not the case and neutrino mixing is not
related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. Our formalism
584. Our more formal treatment
- Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. - We have shown, that, even when using wave
packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. - Our formalism
- We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
(DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
central momentum pA0 and spread sA
594. Our more formal treatment
- Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. - We have shown, that, even when using wave
packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. - Our formalism
- We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
(DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
central momentum pA0 and spread sA
604. Our more formal treatment
- Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. - We have shown, that, even when using wave
packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. - Our formalism
- We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
(DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
central momentum pA0 and spread sA - The neutrino mass eigenstate ?j is described by
a plane wave
614. Our more formal treatment
- Several works have tried to relate the
GSI-oscillations to neutrino mixing. - We have shown, that, even when using wave
packets, this is not the case and neutrino mixing
is not related to any oscilla-tions in the decay
rate. - Our formalism
- We describe both, mother (AM) and daughter
(DM) nuclear state by Gaussian wave packets with
central momentum pA0 and spread sA - The neutrino mass eigenstate ?j is described by
a plane wave
624. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
634. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
644. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
- There are three distinct final states (the
different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
j1,2,3
654. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
- There are three distinct final states (the
different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
j1,2,3
664. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
- There are three distinct final states (the
different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
j1,2,3 - Then, the Feynman rules in coordinate space tell
us unambi-guously how to write down the decay
amplitude
674. Our more formal treatment
- There is one initial state
- There are three distinct final states (the
different neutrino mass eigenstates vj are
orthogonal vectors in Hilbert space) with
j1,2,3 - Then, the Feynman rules in coordinate space tell
us unambi-guously how to write down the decay
amplitude
684. Our more formal treatment
- We adopt the following approximations
694. Our more formal treatment
- We adopt the following approximations
- we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
(pM-pM0) ? this approximation
neglects the wave packet spreading
704. Our more formal treatment
- We adopt the following approximations
- we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
(pM-pM0) ? this approximation
neglects the wave packet spreading
- we neglect
the energy dependence of the pre-factors for
mother and daughter (1/vEA ? 1/vE0A)
? this is okay, because
these factors varies much more slowly than the
Gaussian exponentials
714. Our more formal treatment
- We adopt the following approximations
- we expand EM(pM2mM2)1/2 to first order in
(pM-pM0) ? this approximation
neglects the wave packet spreading
- we neglect
the energy dependence of the pre-factors for
mother and daughter (1/vEA ? 1/vE0A)
? this is okay, because
these factors varies much more slowly than the
Gaussian exponentials
- we also neglect the
energy dependence of the matrix element (also
because of slow variation)
724. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
734. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet)
744. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet) - the result is
754. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet) - the result is
764. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet) - the result is
- the same can be done for the daughter and one
finally gets, after solving the time-integrals,
too, an easy solution
774. Our more formal treatment
- one then has to evaluate Gaussian integrals like
the following (with the group velocity
v0Mp0M/E0M of the wave packet) - the result is
- the same can be done for the daughter and one
finally gets, after solving the time-integrals,
too, an easy solution
784. Our more formal treatment
- here, we have used some abbreviations
794. Our more formal treatment
- here, we have used some abbreviations
804. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
814. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
824. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
834. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
844. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3
854. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3 ? will be summed incoherently (because
the three mass eigenstates v1, v2, and v3 are
distinct!)
864. Our more formal treatment
- but lets go back to the point of the result
- and look more closely
dependences on the neutrino mass eigenstates
j1,2,3 ? will be summed incoherently (because
the three mass eigenstates v1, v2, and v3 are
distinct!)
874. Our more formal treatment
- of course, the phases cancel out due to the
absolute value
884. Our more formal treatment
- of course, the phases cancel out due to the
absolute value
894. Our more formal treatment
- of course, the phases cancel out due to the
absolute value
904. Our more formal treatment
- of course, the phases cancel out due to the
absolute value
This seems to be easy, but has inspite of that
caused a lot of confusion in the community
914. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies
924. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies
934. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies - then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
944. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies - then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
954. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies - then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
- then, the absolute squares show indeed
oscillatory behavior
964. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies - then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
- then, the absolute squares show indeed
oscillatory behavior
974. Our more formal treatment
- the only possibility for oscillations if the
initial state is a superposition of several
states n of different energies - then, also the phases F get a dependence on n
- then, the absolute squares show indeed
oscillatory behavior
984. Our more formal treatment
HOWEVER
994. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
1004. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
1014. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
- this would require an energy splitting of
1024. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
- this would require an energy splitting of
-
1034. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
- this would require an energy splitting of
- ?
1044. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
- this would require an energy splitting of
- ?
- ? no know mechanism that could produce such a
tiny splitting
1054. Our more formal treatment
- HOWEVER
- duration of the GSI-oscillations
-
- this would require an energy splitting of
- ?
- ? no know mechanism that could produce such a
tiny splitting - ? no reason for production of a superposition of
such states
1064. Our more formal treatment
FURTHERMORE
1074. Our more formal treatment
- FURTHERMORE
- it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
level splitting would also lead to slow
oscillations in ß-decays
1084. Our more formal treatment
- FURTHERMORE
- it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
level splitting would also lead to slow
oscillations in ß-decays - this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
et al.)
1094. Our more formal treatment
- FURTHERMORE
- it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
level splitting would also lead to slow
oscillations in ß-decays - this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
et al.) - we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
paper
1104. Our more formal treatment
- FURTHERMORE
- it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
level splitting would also lead to slow
oscillations in ß-decays - this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
et al.) - we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
paper - BUT we also did not claim to be able to explain
the GSI-oscillations
1114. Our more formal treatment
- FURTHERMORE
- it was objected in 0811.0922 nucl-th (Faber et
al.) and in the talk by Andrei Ivanov at the
EXA08-Meeting, Vienna, Sept-ember 2008 that this
level splitting would also lead to slow
oscillations in ß-decays - this does not happen in the ß-decays of the
same ions as used for the EC-measurements (Faber
et al.) - we were not aware of this data when we wrote our
paper - BUT we also did not claim to be able to explain
the GSI-oscillations - at the moment, we have no objection against the
above argument
1125. One question
1135. One question
Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct.
1145. One question
Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. ? What about the effective
mass in the KATRIN-experiment?
1155. One question
- Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. - ? What about the effective mass in the
KATRIN-experiment? - tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
1165. One question
- Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. - ? What about the effective mass in the
KATRIN-experiment? - tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
- the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
(Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))
1175. One question
- Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. - ? What about the effective mass in the
KATRIN-experiment? - tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
- the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
(Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003))
1185. One question
- Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. - ? What about the effective mass in the
KATRIN-experiment? - tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
- the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
(Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003)) - ? this is an INCOHERENT sum over the
contributions from the different mass eigenstates
(Vissani, Nucl. Phys. Proc. Suppl.100, 273
(2001))
1195. One question
- Let us assume for a moment that the COHERENT
summation is correct. - ? What about the effective mass in the
KATRIN-experiment? - tritium beta decay 3H ? 3He e- ve
- the energy spectrum of the electron is given by
(Farzan Smirnov, Phys. Lett. B557, 224 (2003)) - ? this is an INCOHERENT sum over the
contributions from the different mass eigenstates
(Vissani, Nucl. Phys. Proc. Suppl.100, 273
(2001))
1205. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is
1215. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is - ? this is the expression mostly used
1225. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is - ? this is the expression mostly used
- my questions
1235. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is - ? this is the expression mostly used
- my questions
- Should the definition of the effective electron
neutrino mass then be modified???
1245. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is - ? this is the expression mostly used
- my questions
- Should the definition of the effective electron
neutrino mass then be modified??? - Would the planned KATRIN-analysis be in-correct???
1255. One question
- for (E0-E)gtgtmj, this can be parametrized by a
single para-meter, the effective mass of the
electron-neutrino, which is - ? this is the expression mostly used
- my questions
- Should the definition of the effective electron
neutrino mass then be modified??? - Would the planned KATRIN-analysis be
in-correct??? - What about MAINZ TROITSK???
1265. One question
I dont think so!!!
1276. Conclusions
1286. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
1296. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
- they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
mixing
1306. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
- they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
mixing - of course, people (including us) had a careful
look at all sorts of systematics
1316. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
- they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
mixing - of course, people (including us) had a careful
look at all sorts of systematics - HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
statistical properties of the data
1326. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
- they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
mixing - of course, people (including us) had a careful
look at all sorts of systematics - HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
statistical properties of the data - that all has caused some confusion in the
community
1336. Conclusions
- the oscillations at GSI are NOT YET EXPLAINED
- they are definitely NOT related to neutrino
mixing - of course, people (including us) had a careful
look at all sorts of systematics - HOWEVER there are some unexplained strange
statistical properties of the data - that all has caused some confusion in the
community - the new run using I-122 will hopefully clarify
some issues
134- THANKS TO MY
- COLLABORATORS!!!!
135- THANKS TO MY
- COLLABORATORS!!!!
- AND, OF COURSE, TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR ATTENTION!
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