Title: Some Sources
1Some Sources
- The Healthcare Mess Julius B., Richmond,
M.D., Rashi Fein, Ph.D., 2005 - Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise Five Steps to a
Better Health Care System, Kogan, Hubbard,
Kessler, 2005 - Can We Say No? The Challenge of Rationing
Healthcare, Henry J. Aaron - Business of Health,by Robert Ohsfeldt,John E.
Schneider. - Jesse Larner
2Criticisms of SICKO Note criticism are in
black and responses to criticisms are in red
- Sicko doesnt say who will pay and falsely
claims that British, French, Canadian healthcare
is free
- Moore does in fact mention that the French are
drowning in taxes and that single-payer
healthcare systems are paid for by taxes. - BUT Moore doesnt explain what percentage of
taxes are used to pay for healthcare
3Income Tax rates by Country based on Organisation
for Economic Co-operation and Development, 2005
data (includes employer payroll tax
contributions that some countries impose for
programs like social security and healthcare.
4Criticisms of SICKOCheeseburger
- The U.S. cannot be compared to other
industrialized countries - We Eat More Cheeseburgers argument our
unhealthy lifestyles offset our superior care - Source Ezra Klein of The American Prospect
- the United States does not stand out in the
quantity of care, as measured by such indicators
as the number of physicians, nurses, and hospital
beds per capita. - Source Paul Krugman, The Healthcare Crisis NY
Review of Books, 2006 - Nor does the US stand out in terms of the quality
of care a recent study published in Health
Affairs that compared quality of care across
advanced countries found no US advantage. On the
contrary, "the United States often stands out for
inefficient care and errors and is an outlier on
access/cost ba - Source Gerard F. Anderson, Peter S. Hussey,
Bianca K. Frogner, and Hugh R. Waters, "Health
Spending in the United States and the Rest of the
Industrialized World," Health Affairs, Vol. 24,
No. 4 (July/August 2005),
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6Criticisms
- Sicko misrepresents the Canadian Medicare system
- Canadians endure long waits, 4.5 months for
appointments - Canadians endure waits of 4 to 12 hours for basic
care - Source California Association of Health
Plans/Op-ed - These long waits result in needless deaths (ie
film regarding brain cancer patient) - Increasing numbers of Canadian patients and MDs
are now coming to the U.S. for treatment
frustration - My friend/relative (fill in here) lives in Canada
and hates their system - http//www.freemarketcure.com/brainsurgery.php
- Only 3 of Canadians suffer delays
- Source Gerald Anderson, Johns
Hopkins Health study - Longer lines/waits are, overall, a justified
cost - Long lines are evidence of Canadas moral
commitment to serving all - 24 of Americans simply avoid healthcare due to
(vs. 5 in Canada and 3 in the U.K.) - According to a Gallup poll in the Toronto Sun,
only 2 of Canadians stated a preference for U.S.
style healthcare
7Criticisms of SICKO
- OMISSION - Europe is starting to move away from
government healthcare - U.K. is now privatizing surgeries, etc.
- Sweden will outsource 80 of its primary care and
40 of its total healthcare dollars - Germany has a universal but private insurance
system
8Criticisms of SICKO
- 12.5 in the U.K. wait over a year for surgery
- Wait times for care are longer elsewhere than in
the U.S.
- Ranking for non-elective MD appoint wait-times (
are for same day appts) - 1. New Zealand
- 2. Britain 71
- 3. Germany 69
- 4. Australia 66
- 5. U.S. 47
- 6. Canada 36
9Criticisms of SICKO
- OMISSION - Our drugs and technology are the best
in the world due to market-driven medical
innovation made possible by the Orphan Drug Act
of 1983. This act uses tax incentives and 7 years
of market exclusivity to incentivize drug
production - We in the U.S. benefit from new drugs we get
first launches of drugs which cost approx. 1
billion per drug. - Source Manhattan Institute/Washington Post
10Criticisms Moores worldview is anti-American,
socialist and dangerous to the U.S.
- Tony Benn is an old-school socialist
- Moore wants French freebies on the government
dime - Moore prefers class-conflict to American
individualism and personal responsibility - If se have socialized care, our society will lose
it dynamism - Moore is more French than the French even the
French are abandoning their socialist ideas with
the election of Sarkozy - Liberals desire government programs because
liberals want us to be weak and dependent on the
government - U.S. exceptionalism we are the greatest country
and thus have the best healthcare system and thus
Moore, by criticizing our system is un-American - French protests are protests by privileged
middle class sectors of society that seek to keep
their cushy benefits yet exclude immigrants from
Africa, Turkey, and those from the former eastern
bloc - Source Rich Lowry, National Review
11- Response The argument that SICKO shows that
liberals are are anti-American pinkos/commies
is a strawman (the left does not agree) it is ad
hominem (instead of addressing the issues he
raises, conservatives such as National Review
magazine simply resort to red-baiting or name
calling and questionable premises (ie the
French do not want to give up their socialized,
single-payer healthcare) - In regards to the strawman fallacy, even The
Nation a well-known leftist, U.S. magazine
criticizes Moores ode to Marx - "The film's final half-hour, in which Moore takes
9/11 rescue workers to Cuba, serves only to
reinforce the decades-old slander that equates
social democracy with repressive socialism. It's
a major miscalculation and nearly squanders the
first hour and a half of the film in which Moore
so deftly guts arguments that socialized medicine
represents the vanguard of Marxism. Source
Christopher Hayes, The Nation
12Some questions
- Should we ensure whether via free market or
socialized care provide everyone with
healthcare? - Basic care? Elective surgeries? Non-elective
surgeries? - Is rationing of care ever morally permissible?
- Are we obligated to provide healthcare to those
who have unhealthy lifestyles? - Are all forms of insurance the same?
- Fire insurance
- Car insurance
- Medical insurance?
- Are healthcare products analogous to cellphones,
etc? - X-rays vs. automobiles, cars, cellphones
13Some terms
- Socialized medicine version 1 government pays
but the private sector delivers - Socialized medicine version 2 government pays
and government delivers (V.A.) - Single-payer government pays one private
sector insurance companies pays - Free-market consumer pays, health provider
delivers - 3rd party (84 of U.S. costs) vs. 1st party
payment/delivery - taxes to 3rd party government
- premiums to 3rd party insurer
- Out of pocket payment at point of delivery to
party healthcare provider by consumer - Criticism of 3rd party payment MDs and patients
dont act rationally in light of actual costs
14Brief History of Health Insurance in the U.S.
- WW II due to labor shortage (and wage caps by
govt), employers offered health coverage to
employees in order to attract workers (a work
around to price controls on wages) - Health insurance was relatively inexpensive given
low medical costs, technology, drugs, etc. - Health insurance is a non-taxed benefit offered
by employers which, if taxed like wages, would
net 150 billion in additional tax revenues. - Health insurance now costs employers, on average,
10,000 to insure a family of four
15Causes for rising costs in U.S.
- Fragmentation of healthcare
- Medicare (single-payer system for seniors)
- Medicaid (single-payer for the poor)
- Healthcare delivery systems private insurers,
for-profit hospitals, govt - 50 of spending is by U.S. govt, 50 by private
sector - 1960 5.2 of GDP vs.2004 16 of GDP
- New technology, drugs, therapies are costly.
- MDs paid much more in the U.S. than elsewhere
- 30 of each private healthcare dollar spent on
administrative fees and profit - Rise in MD insurance premiums (
16Malpractice Insurance?
- Malpractice jury awards increased 4 percent
annually between 1991 and 2003 or 52 percent
overall since 1991, but only 1.6 percent a year
since 2000. - The increases are roughly equivalent to the
overall rise in healthcare cost - Malpractice insurance premiums for internists,
general surgeons, and obstetricians have
skyrocketed since 2000, jumping 20 to 25 percent
in 2002 alone. Some specialists, such as
obstetricians, now pay almost 100,000 annually
for their malpractice insurance. - Source Rising doctors' premiums not due to
lawsuit awards Study suggests insurers raise
rates to make up for investment declines by Liz
Kowalczyk, Globe Staff June 1, 2005
17Malpractice Rates?
- Malpractice insurance companies have increased
rates to compensate for falling investment
returns (1998-2000) due to bond losses which make
up 80 of their portfolio - Malpractice insurance rates vary widely
- Dade County, Florida increased 75 (to
174,300) from 1999 to 2000 vs. 2 (10,140)
for the same specialty in Minnesota. - Minnesotas largest insurer increased rates for
the same specialty by 2 - Source The Health Care Mess Julius Richmond,
M.D., Rashi Fein, Ph.D.
18Adverse Reaction Cycle the problem with
Employer-based Health Insurance
19Advantages of Single-Payer
- Its ethical no adverse selection all are
covered. - Removes competitive penalty on small businesses.
- Single-payer is more efficient
- Medicares administrative overhead is 2 of total
costs vs. 13 of private insurance companies. - Medicaid - 9,600 avg/person vs. 14,800 if in
private sector. Source Medicaid A Lower-Cost
Approach to Serving a High-Cost Population,"
policy brief by the Kaiser Commission on Medicaid
and the Uninsured, March 2004. - Taiwan switched to universal, single-payer in
1995 with better quality yet only slightly
increased costs. - Stronger drug-bargaining position (Medicaid
V.A. get Canadian rates from U.S.
pharmaceuticals)
20Free-market voucher approaches?
- South Carolina a free-market voucher system
- Consumer-directed approach eliminate 3rd
parties whether it be insurance companies or
government and instead let patients barter
directly with physicians and hospitals with
vouchers. - Source Healthy, Wealthy, and Wise D.
Kessler, Hubbard
- Who decides on voucher costs?
- Who provides (and pays for) the vouchers?
- Is healthcare consumption analogous to
appliance consumption? - How will patients shop around and compare
during emergency situations? - How will information regarding healthcare quality
be communicated? - Will vouchers address increasing costs due to
technology, drugs, etc?
21Free-market tax-credit proposals
- Remove tax advantage that favors health insurance
over out of pocket by taxing some employer
based health benefits OR cut taxes on
out-of-pocket. - Tax advantage health savings accounts tax free
shelter for healthcare.
- Do the wealthy need taxbreaks of this kind?
- Will this reinforce adverse selection? those
who are healthy will adopt savings accounts and
opt out of company insurance plans - Rand study we dont make wise healthcare choices
if out-of-pocket - This will not address expensive treatment that is
80 of costs