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Title: Electoral College


1
Electoral College
  • Why did we do this?
  • Why do we still have it?
  • What political interests are preserved via
    Electoral College
  • So, you want to be an Elector?

2
Electoral College
  • What is it
  • Constitutional compromise
  • Indirect election of President
  • Electing a group of people to select Head of
    Government

3
Electoral College
  • Brief History
  • 1789, no such thing as national elections
  • Few people with national visibility
  • No national media / communication
  • Impossible to conduct national campaign
  • No party system
  • many potential candidates

4
Electoral College
  • History
  • 1789, not clear what the role of the President
    would be
  • An extension of Congress
  • A Prime Minister
  • No Big Deal, and they knew GW would be it
  • Solution
  • Each states legislature pick group of people to
    decide who to support

5
Electoral College
  • Founders solution
  • Article 2.1
  • each state shall appoint, in a Manner as the
    Legislature therof may direct, an Number of
    Electors, equal to the whole Number of Senators
    and Representatives
  • Meet in their state, cast votes for two people,
    send votes to US Senate

6
Electoral College
  • Founders solution
  • Person with most votes is President, person with
    2nd most votes is VP
  • If a tie, Congress decides
  • Didnt think that President and Vice President
    might be enemies

7
Electoral College
  • Early Problems
  • States didnt know what to do
  • How appoint electors?
  • 1789
  • New Yorks legislature couldnt agree
  • States didnt know how to keep VP candidate
    (Adams) from having as many votes as Washington

8
Electoral College
  • History / Problems
  • 1789 method of Elector selection
  • 5 states used legislature to appoint (NY)
  • MA appointed some by legislature, some by
    legislature from list of top 2 candidates in each
    Cong. district
  • NH 5 electors selected by voters statewide
  • VA 10 electors selected by voters in districts
  • 1789, 1792 unanimous elections

9
Electoral College
  • 1789 Election
  • G Washington (VA) 69
  • J. Adams (MA) 34
  • J. Jay (NY) 9
  • R Harrison (MD) 6
  • J Rutledge (SC) 6
  • Other 14
  • No voting 24

10
Electoral College
  • Problems
  • 1789 - 1800
  • 6 of 12 states selected by popular vote
  • states often split EC delegation
  • Selection in 1789, 1796, 1800 not winner-take-all
  • What might this cause?

11
Electoral College
  • 1796 First real contest
  • 4 well known candidates
  • Adams (Fed), Pinckney (Fed), Jefferson (DR), Burr
    (DR)
  • weak concept of running mate
  • If top 2 tied, goes to Congress

12
Electoral College
  • 1796 Results (138 voters, 70 to win )
  • Adams (F) 35,726 (53) 71 EC votes
  • Jefferson (DR) 31,115 (47) 69 EC votes
  • Pinckney (F) 59 EC votes
  • Burr (DR) 30 EC votes
  • S Adams (F Brewer, Patriot) 15 EC votes
  • Hamilton wanted Pinckney, got some SC Electors to
    vote Jefferson / Pinkney

13
Electoral College
  • 1796
  • Adams (F) / Pinckney (F) 45 - 49
  • Jefferson (D) / Burr (D) 25 - 30
  • Jefferson (D) / S. Adams (D) 14 - 15
  • Adams (F) / Ellsworth (F) 11 - 0
  • Jefferson (D) / Pinckney (F) 9 - 14
  • Jefferson (D) / Clinton (D) 6 - 7
  • Adams (F) / Jay (F) 5 - 0
  • Adams (F) / Jefferson (D) 1 - 6

14
Electoral College
  • Coordination problem
  • EC set up before parties emerged
  • how insure Pres VP dont hate each other
  • Adams (F) Jefferson (DR) would be like
  • President Obama Vice President Palin

15
Electoral College
  • 1800
  • an accidental tie
  • Result
  • Jefferson (DR) 41,330 (61) 73 EC
  • Burr (DR) 73 EC
  • Adams (F) 25,952 (39) 65 EC
  • Pinckney (F) 64 EC
  • Jay (F) 1 EC

16
Electoral College
  • 1800
  • Jefferson was supposed to be Dems top choice,
    Burr 2
  • Tie goes to House of Reps
  • Lame Duck Federalists controlled House
  • 16 state delegations, each w/ 1 vote
  • need majority (9 votes)

17
Electoral College
  • 1800
  • For one week, over 35 ballots, Jefferson got just
    8 votes
  • Hamilton told Federalists Jefferson less worse
    than Burr
  • Federalists switch on 36th Ballot, Jefferson wins

18
Electoral College
  • 1804
  • Burr runs for Governor of NY
  • Hamilton smears Burr
  • Burr gets even
  • Shoots Hamilton
  • Hamilton dead
  • Burr tries to steal TX from Spain
  • Filibuster (look it up)
  • Jefferson has him arrested for treason
  • Retired to England friends w/ Jeremy Bentham

19
Electoral College
  • 1804 - Burrs Other Legacy
  • 12th Amendment
  • Electors cast one vote for President
  • Separate vote for Vice President
  • Still up to Congress to break ties

20
Electoral College
  • Developments since 1800s
  • Popular voting in states more common post 1830
  • National political parties
  • Move toward winner take all rules in many
    states
  • only 2 states left that divide up Electors (NE,
    ME)

21
Electoral College
  • Poor Record?
  • 4 times popular vote winner different than
    Electoral College
  • 1824, 1876, 1888, 2000
  • twice (1824, 1876) Congress has had to select
    President
  • 11 of 35 elections had no popular vote majority
    winner

22
Electoral College
  • Current Issues
  • Deadlines
  • Apportionment
  • Faithless electors
  • Election failures

23
Electoral College
  • How it works today
  • need 270 Electors to win
  • state delegation number of members of Congress
  • Each candidate files a slate of trusted electors
    w/ Secretary of State
  • Electors pledged to support their candidate

24
Electoral College
  • How it works today
  • States decide how many electors each candidate
    gets based on popular vote
  • nearly all states winner take all
  • Federal Law Deadlines
  • Electors meet at Capitol, December 13th
  • Deadline for National Archives December 22nd
  • Congress certifies election January 6th

25
Electoral College
  • Deadlines
  • created massive problem in 2000
  • Florida recount, lawsuits taking weeks
  • December 13 deadline looming
  • Major factor forcing US Supreme Court to
    intervene
  • options push back inauguration or certification
    dates?

26
Electoral College
  • Apportionment
  • Not by population
  • Senate seats skew influence of smallest states
  • One EC vote in WY 165,000 people
  • One EC vote in ND 245,000 people
  • One EC vote in NY, CA 613,000 people

27
Electoral College
  • Apportionment
  • 20 smallest states have 28.7m people
  • they get 84 EC votes (44 if by population)
  • NY NJ 28m people
  • they get 48 EC votes
  • CA 34m people
  • it gets 55 EC votes

28
Electoral College
  • Apportionment
  • A structural Republican advantage?
  • What are the politics of smallest states?
  • Bush beat Gore by 13 in smallest states
  • GW Bush won 61 of 84 small state electors in 2000

29
Electoral College
  • Apportionment
  • if allocated by population, GOP candidates win 20
    fewer EC votes 2000 2004
  • or, GOP candidates start w/ a built-in /-20 EC
    vote head start given political geography

30
Electoral College, 2008
  • WY GOP
  • VT DEM
  • AK GOP
  • ND GOP
  • SD GOP
  • DE DEM
  • MT GOP
  • RI DEM
  • HI DEM
  • NH DEM
  • ME DEM
  • ID GOP
  • NE GOP (1 D)
  • WV GOP
  • NM DEM
  • NV DEM
  • UT GOP
  • AR GOP
  • KS GOP
  • MS GOP

31
Electoral College
  • Apportionment
  • What are the reasons for over-representing small
    states in the EC
  • Today, what purpose is served?

32
Electoral College
  • Faithless Electors
  • might be the least of our worries
  • rare, typically protest votes
  • can this be regulated?

33
Electoral College
  • Election Failures
  • What is the point of popular vote for a national
    office
  • aggregate national opinion, produce outcome

34
Electoral College
  • Election Failure
  • EC not good at producing a winner with majority
    popular support
  • Manufactured majorities
  • EC good at translating narrow popular vote wins
    into clear EC majorities
  • Reagan 1980 Clintons 43 in 1992

35
Electoral College
  • Attempts at Reform
  • Constitutional Amendments
  • after 1948, award electors proportionate to
    popular vote in state
  • 64 Y in Senate, died in House
  • after 1968, Direct Election of President
  • 338 votes in House, 51 in Senate

36
Electoral College
  • Recent Reform Proposals
  • Colorado 2004
  • PR allocation inside state
  • why is this a dumb idea?
  • California 2007
  • winner-take-all by congressional district
  • just as dumb?

37
2000 Pop EC vote by CD by
PR Gore 48.4 266 (49 ) 251 257
Bush 47.9 270 (51 ) 287 258 Nader 2.7
20 others 1.0 3 1996
Clinton 49.2 379 (70 ) 345 262 Dole 40.7 159
(30 ) 193 220 Perot 8.4 49 others
1.7 7 1992 Clinton 43.0 370
(69) 324 232 Bush 37.5 168 (31
) 214 203 Perot 18.9 102 1980
Reagan 50.7 489 (91 ) 396 273 Carter 41.0
49 (9 ) 142 221 Anderson 6.6 35
others 1.9 9 BOLD MAJORITY
38
1976 Pop EC vote by CD by PR
Carter 50.1 297 (55 ) 269 270 Ford 48.0 240
(45 ) 269 258 others 1.8 10 1968
Nixon 43.2 301 (56 ) 289 231 Humphr
42.7 191 (35 ) 192 225 Wallace 13.5 46 (8
) 57 79 others 0.6 2 1960
Kennedy 49.8 303 (56 ) 278 266
Nixon 49.5 219 (41) 245 266 unaffil. 0.7
15 (3 ) 14 5 BOLD MAJORITY
Be careful what you wish for.....some reforms
make things worse
39
Electoral College
  • Current Reform Proposals
  • Motivated by difficulty of amending US
    Constitution
  • direct election obvious reform, but hardest to
    achive
  • State by state only other option

40
Electoral College
  • Reform
  • National Popular Vote Compact
  • States by state agreement to award state EC votes
    to national pop. vote winner
  • Did passed WA House, 22 state chambers have
    approved
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