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Title: 2001 Euresco Conference on PSEs: Past, Present and Future


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2001 Euresco Conference on PSEsPast, Present
and Future
Tony Hey Director UK e-Science Core
Programme EPSRC, Swindon UK Tony.Hey_at_epsrc.ac.uk
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Outline
  • Review of Presentations
  • Summary of Key Trends
  • Focus and Format of next Euresco PSE Conference

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Review of Presentations (1)
  • David Walker
  • - Vision for PSEs - Grids
  • - Grid Computing Environments
  • - Web Portals
  • - New technologies XML, XSLT
  • - Jini, Agents and the Semantic Web
  • - Application Service Providers

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Review of Presentations (2)
  • Geoffrey Fox
  • - Grid vs P2P architecture
  • - Shawn Fanning of Napster
  • (75M users cant be wrong)
  • - .antiNet
  • - JXTA as Unix Shell for Web OS
  • - Grid as Enterprise P2P
  • - Grid Portals for Education

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Review of Presentations (3)
  • Kai-Uwe Schmitt
  • - State of the Art of Car Crash
  • Simulation Software
  • - Industrial distrust of Internet
  • - PSEs not really on the agenda

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Review of Presentations (4)
  • Elias Houstis
  • - GasTurbnLab PSE
  • 31,000 parts
  • 10,000 parameters
  • 100,000 s/w modules
  • - 3 tier architecture with Grasshopper
  • Agent-based middleware
  • - Methodology requires access to source
  • code

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Review of Presentations (5)
  • Young Researcher Presentations
  • - Most not about PSEs but about
  • computational science software
  • - Lack of comparison/awareness
  • with related research
  • - Discussion of Jini and CORBA
  • technology

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Review of Presentations (6)
  • Hans Petter Langtangen
  • - Re-engineering multi-physics codes
  • - OO Design, Rapid Prototyping
  • - Diffpack approach and maintainability
  • - Success with Daimler-Chrysler codes
  • - Performance of Parallel versions?

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Review of Presentations (7)
  • Chris Johnson
  • - Computational Science Pipeline
  • Modelling Simulation Visualization
  • - Need ability to interact anywhere
  • - SCIRun, BIOPSE examples
  • - DOE C-SAFE Center
  • Hard problems, scale to 2000 PEs
  • - NIH Center
  • Real success with immersive
  • visualization technology

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Review of Presentations (8)
  • Jeremy Wu
  • - CFD Colourful Fluid Dynamics!
  • - Pay-as-you-go Software Licences
  • - CFD Application Service Provider
  • - Impact of the Grid?

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Review of Presentations (9)
  • Peter Sloot
  • - Polder Grid Infrastructure
  • - Virtual Laboratory Environment
  • - Lattice Boltzmann Blood Flow Example
  • - Measurements in VR?
  • - Need for Domain Knowledge
  • Computer Science
  • - Component-based approach to PSEs

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Review of Presentations (10)
  • Hans-Christian Hoppe
  • - Users in Stone Age!
  • - UNICORE Project
  • Good interface
  • Incarnation Database
  • - EUROGRID Project
  • BIOGRID, METEOGRID,
  • CAE-GRID, HPC-GRID
  • - VHS versus Betamax analogy
  • Move to Globus/GGF standard ASAP!

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Review of Presentations (11)
  • Omer Rana
  • - Human Usability Issues - Pancaked!
  • - Wrapping technologies for heritage codes
  • - Impact of the Grid
  • Think service not code
  • - Agent service approach
  • - New security issues?

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Review of Presentations (12)
  • Klaus Wolf
  • - Autobench and TENT
  • - Realistic Industrial Workflow
  • CAD - multiple CAE packages
  • - Data Integration key issue
  • Wrapping non-trivial problem
  • - Use OO Data Structures and CORBA
  • - Need for CAD Repair Man!
  • - Hard to build industrial-strength PSE

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Review of Presentations (13)
  • Yike Guo
  • - PSEs for Knowledge Discovery
  • - High Throughput or Data Intensive?
  • - Data Information - Knowledge
  • - Generic Grid-like Architecture
  • - IP logging as e-Book
  • - Applications in Biology, Chemistry,

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Preview of Presentation
  • Jason Jones
  • - PSUE Parallel Simulation User
  • Environment projects with BAE Systems
  • - EU CAESAR and JULIUS projects
  • - Computational Science Pipeline
  • Mesh CFD Refinement - Visualization
  • - Data transfer between programmes is key
    problem
  • - Use CORBA and MEM-COM D/B?

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Size and Complexity of Industrial Applications
  • Systems with thousands of mechanical
    components
  • e.g. 31000 in Gas Turbine
  • Large numbers of collaborating people
  • e.g. LHC experiments with 1000 physicists
  • Large grid sizes for aircraft simulation
  • - Viscous and Turbulent flow 5-8 million
  • - Electromagnetic scattering 12-16 million

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TENT Architecture
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Some Comments on CORBA
  • Many systems CORBA based but specific ORB rarely
    mentioned
  • Advantage of CORBA One specification, 800
    companies in the consortium
  • Disadvantage Large number of implementations
    and vendors offering various ORBs (Orbacus,
    Orbix, )
  • Using different ORBs in the same system is not
    recommended!
  • Programming using CORBA is not trivial, the C
    syntax is rather complex

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Corba Middleware OBACUS
  • Stable commercial product
  • Available source code for modifications if
    required
  • Support for IDL Java and C mapping
  • Services
  • Event server
  • Name server
  • Trading server
  • Implementation Repository
  • Interface repository

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Some comments on PSEs
  • Varying architectures, inter-process
    communications, non-standard interfaces, poor
    modularity
  • Data flow between CAD and CAE Tools major
    problem
  • No generally accepted methodology for
    specification, analysis and design of modular
    reusable systems
  • Lack of standards to support commonality and
    modularity of systems/components
  • Progress should be measured in the number and
    quality of reusable, robust design tools.
  • Problem of vendor specific legacy tools and
    codes

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Future PSEs will offer support for experimental
work?
  • Present PSEs focus on design side of the
    process -
  • experimental side not supported.
  • Need to incorporate validation and testing
    stages into PSE
  • Support for recording and analysis of
    experimental data
  • Incorporate databases of experimental
    measurements into PSE.
  • Will allow Data-mining of experimental and
    simulation data
  • Convergence with knowledge discovery PSEs?

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Some Comments on Technologies
  • XML, SOAP and UDDI cannot be ignored
  • - need to link to Web Services world
  • - XML schemas as Objects
  • Standard 3 Tier Architecture challenged by
  • P2P and Users regarded as Resources
  • - JXTA?
  • Agents will come of age
  • - Ontologies
  • - DAML/OIL
  • - Semantic Web
  • The Grid is Coming!

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Grid CORBA extensions?
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Format and Focus of Next Conference?
  • Chris Johnsons comments on Format
  • Fewer talks!
  • - A couple of overview talks
  • - A few state of the art PSE talks
  • - Longer or more frequent breaks
  • Some Panel discussions with lots of audience
    participation

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Format and Focus (2)
  • Suggested Panel Topics
  • - Outstanding problems and issues
  • - PSE Developers vs PSE Users
  • - Controversial topic such as
  • Are PSEs worthwhile?
  • - Software Architecture design and evaluation
  • - How move forward science or engineering of
    PSE development?

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Suggested Focus e-Science
  • Many e-Science/Grid Testbeds will have results to
    report
  • Grid Technologies should be maturing
  • Globus, SRB, JXTA - ?
  • Should be examples of new Application Service
    Providers based on Grid/Web technologies

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UK e-Science Testbeds
  • Particle Physics Grid linked with EU DataGrid and
    US GriPhyN projects
  • Virtual Observatory AstroGrid
  • Engineering Grids
  • Chemistry/Materials Grids
  • Bioinformatics Grid
  • Medical and Healthcare Informatics Grids
  • Environmental Grids

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A Grid IRC Grand Challenge
  • DIRC -Verification and validation of safety
    critical and high integrity systems
  • AKT - Integrated set of technologies, methods
    and services to support knowledge life cycle
  • EQUATOR - Development of theories and devices
    integrating physical and digital worlds
  • Medical Images to Clinical Information
  • Medical and Healthcare Informatics as a Grand
    Challenge Application for the Grid

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Other e-Science Grid Projects
  • US Projects
  • GriPhyn, NEESGrid, NVO, ..
  • EU Projects
  • DataGrid, DataTAG (TTT)
  • MeteoGrid, HPCGrid, CAEGrid
  • Other National Projects
  • PolderGrid,
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