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PAIN FROM INFIDELS?
  • Pain of Muslims expressed
  • and emphasised

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LOVE IN ISLAM
  • Pain and destruction of others?

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Roman Catholic Church supporting Islam
  • The Vatican deplored the violence but said
    certain provocative forms of criticism were
    unacceptable. - February 2006
  • "The right to freedom of thought and expression
    ... cannot entail the right to offend the
    religious sentiment of believers," the Vatican
    said in its first statement on the controversy.

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Humanism and NWO
  • The United States called the burnings
    "inexcusable" and blamed the Syrian government
    for security failures. Feb 2006
  • "Syria must act decisively to protect all foreign
    embassies and citizens in Damascus from attack,"
    White House Press Secretary Scott McClellan said
    in a statement. "We will hold Syria responsible
    for such violent demonstrations since they do not
    take place in that country without government
    knowledge and support."
  • British Foreign Secretary Jack Straw, who has
    criticized European media for reprinting the
    caricatures, said there was no justification for
    the violence in Damascus.

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Western Understanding
  • "It's horrible and totally unacceptable," Danish
    Foreign Minister Per Stig Moeller said on Danish
    public television Saturday. - Feb 4 2006
  • No diplomats were injured in the Syrian violence,
    officials said. But Swedish Foreign Minister
    Laila Freivalds whose country, along with
    Chile, has an embassy in the same building said
    she would lodge a formal protest over the lack of
    security.
  • In Santiago, the Chilean Ministry of Foreign
    Affairs said the Chilean Embassy in Damascus was
    also torched but nobody was injured.

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Action of Islam and Muslims
  • Mahmoud Zahar, leader of the militant Palestinian
    group Hamas, told the Italian daily Il Giornale
    the cartoonists should be punished by death.
  • We should have killed all those who offend the
    Prophet and instead here we are, protesting
    peacefully." he said.

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CARTOON ROW
  • "We have a right to defend our prophet," one
    protester told the BBC.
  • How?
  • By teaching and desire to kill others?
  • By insulting in all conceivable ways?
  • By forbidding all other opinion?
  • By forbidding all other expression?

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The Free World enjoys different Views - This is
Freedom ?Islamic World enjoys Islamic View only
This is Totalitarianism ?
  • CARTOON ROW 2005 - 2006
  • 30 Sept Danish paper publishes cartoons
  • 20 Oct Muslim ambassadors complain to Danish PM
  • 10 Jan Norwegian publication reprints cartoons
  • 26 Jan Saudi Arabia recalls its ambassador
  • 30 Jan Gunmen raid EU's Gaza office demanding
    apology
  • 31 Jan Danish paper apologises
  • 1 Feb Papers in France, Germany, Italy and Spain
    reprint cartoons
  • 4 Feb Syrians attack Danish and Norwegian
    embassies in Damascus

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Islamic Defence Destroy, Hurt, Propaganda,
Commotion
  • We have a right to defend our prophet," one
    protester told the BBC. 4 Feb 2006 Saturday
  • "They should have respected our religion," said
    another.
  • An Iraqi militant group in the insurgent
    stronghold of Ramadi calls for attacks on Danish
    and non-Muslim targets in Iraq
  • Two tabloid editors in Jordan, arrested after
    publishing some of the cartoons, plead not guilty
    to charges of insulting religion.

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The Fact of World Order/Respect
  • "The principle of diplomatic relations is that
    diplomats can work safely and the fact that this
    has been broken is extremely serious," Norwegian
    Foreign Minister Jonas Gahr Stoere told a news
    conference in Oslo.
  • The US also criticised Syria's approach, saying
    it was "inexcusable" for such damage to be
    inflicted on diplomatic missions.

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Islamic Treatment 2006
  • In Iraq, the Islamic Army in Iraq, a Sunni Arab
    insurgent group, issued an Internet statement
    calling for attacks on Danish companies and
    nationals. The group asked followers to "catch
    some Danish people and cut them into pieces."

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Freedom of expression, a cornerstone of Western
democratic values
  • Many Muslims cast it as another insult

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"Bush and his group have invaded and are fighting
war by all means available," it added. "The goal
destroying the Islamic nation ideologically,
economically and existentially and stealing and
looting its resources." - Islamic expression in
Iraq 2006
  • There are Western Muslims in USA and other
    Western Countries.
  • They chose to live in places other than Islamic
    nation.

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Hundreds of Muslims surged through nearby streets
in Beirut, waving green religious flags and
shouting "God is greatest."
  • Notice that none follows the Bible declaring
    greatness of Yhwh God Almighty of Israel.
  • So much for telling the World they worship the
    God of Abraham and Moses.

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FRANCO FRATTINI, EU Justice Commissioner
  • It should be crystal clear to all that violence,
    intimidation, and the calls for boycotts or for
    restraints on the freedom of the press are
    completely unacceptable.
  • I can understand the feelings of indignation,
    frustration and sadness of the Muslim communities
    over the last few days. Such events do not
    facilitate dialogue between faiths and cultures.
  • - Feb 2006

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HOSNI MUBARAK, Egyptian President
  • Freedom of opinion, expression and of the press,
    which we guarantee and respect, cannot be used as
    an excuse to insult sanctities, beliefs and
    religions.
  • Feb 2006
  • In other words There is no freedom of opinion,
    and expression of the press if they insult
    sanctities, beliefs and religions such as Islam.
  • Worth noting that Christians have not been
    burning buildings of Islamic countries and
    issuing decree for the murdering/death of Muslims
    when Muslims and the Islamic World propagate
    words and ideas against the Christian Holy Faith,
    Yhwh Almighty God, the Jews/Israelites, and the
    Holy Bible.
  • The Jews have not been rioting and burning
    Iranian and Arab buildings.

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HAMID KARZAI, Afghan President
  • Any insult to the Holy Prophet, peace be upon
    him, is an insult to more than one billion
    Muslims and an act like this must never be
    allowed to be repeated. - Feb 2006
  • Not allowed by force, murder, terrorism?
  • Why are Jesus Christ imitated and insulted?
  • Why is Yhwh God Almighty counterfeited and
    ignored and persecuted?
  • Why are Christians accused of rewriting the Bible?

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AHMED QUREIA, Outgoing Palestinian Prime Minister
  • We hope that the concerned governments are
    attentive to the sensitivity of this issue. We
    warn that emotions may flare in this very
    sensitive issue. - Feb 2006
  • Why are Muslims and the Islamic World/nations
    allowing Muslims to be ruled and overpowered by
    Islamic emotions, and other people(accused to be
    infidels) to be enslaved or dictated by their
    Islamic emotions?
  • Is emotion being used as a weapon of conquest?
    And as a justification to commit any violence ?

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Blair condemns cartoon protesters
  • The behaviour of some Muslim protesters
    demonstrating in London over cartoons of Prophet
    Muhammad was "completely unacceptable", Downing
    Street has said.
  • - 6 Feb 2006
  • Placards glorifying the 7 July bombings and calls
    for the enemies of Islam to be killed featured in
    Friday's demo.

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Omar Bakri Mohammed
  • In Islam, whoever insulted a prophet must be
    "punished and executed".
  • "We are not saying ourselves to go there and
    start to look to him and kill him, we are not
    talking about that. We are talking about Islamic
    rules. If anybody insults the prophet, he will
    have to take a punishment," Omar said.

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The other side of Islam
  • Inayat Bunglawala, a spokesman for the Muslim
    Council of Britain, said there would be "no
    sympathy" among Muslims for those who waved
    "incendiary" placards or banners.
  • "Those extremists who were inciting violence were
    trying to hijack genuine feelings amongst Muslims
    for a more violent agenda," he said.

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Flemming Rose, culture editor of Jyllands-Posten
  • "We were not treating the Prophet any differently
    from anyone else in Denmark"
  • D.Lim Respect has to be earned.
  • Violence, repression, and terrorism are not ways
    to earn or command genuine respect.
  • Jesus Christ teaches cross-bearing.

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Munira Mizra, British journalist reporting on
Islamophobia
  • "Many Muslims want the same freedoms as everyone
    else to debate and criticise" - Feb 2006

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Dr Lam Akol, Sudanese foreign minister
  • "In the Third World they hardly separate between
    the journalist's and the government's views" -
    Feb 2006
  • D.Lim The Third World is so-called because it
    does not warrant same level of respect as the
    First and Second World. The religious bubble has
    not developed them nor brought them development
    to be so affluent as the First and Second World.
    Their god is great!? Who is first to be third?

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Roger Koppel, editor of the German newspaper Die
Welt
  • "We think we are living in a secular society
    where even religion can be satirised" - Feb
    2006
  • D.Lim Eastern Muslims see Germany as Christian
    country. Biblical Christians know that Germany
    is secular and non-Christian.

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Karen Armstrong, religious affairs commentator
  • "We are seeing a clash of two different notions
    of what is sacred" - Feb 2006
  • D.Lim Western countries often see Secularisation
    and Humanism their sacred religions.

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Dr Yunes Teinaz is the spokesman for the London
Mosque and Islamic Cultural Centre - 2006
  • We respect the heroes of other religions and we
    would expect the same from the followers of other
    religions and ideologies. No Muslim, for example,
    is allowed to portray a picture of Jesus.
  • D.Lim The character of Jesus Christ is
    substituted by the character of Isa. No Muslim
    revere Christ as God the everlasting Father, The
    Way, The Truth.
  • Self-imposing rule is not what other religions
    required. Christians can paint Christ, Moses,
    David, even Abraham freely. This is Freedom in
    Christianity, so lacking and twisted in Islam.

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Flemming Rose is the culture editor of
Jyllands-Posten newspaper in Denmark, which
originally published the cartoons
  • I did not ask the illustrators to make the
    Prophet a laughing stock - I asked them to draw
    the Prophet as they see him.
  • D.Lim Muslims by large numbers do not allow or
    welcome this freedom of the mind and expression.
  • In Christ, there is such freedom, and honesty.
  • This is not division to communities. The
    communities have always been divided,
    ideologically, religiously, truthfully. When has
    there ever been a union? What union has Christ
    with anti-Christs?

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Stewart Lee is the creator of Jerry Springer -
The Opera, which some Christians found offensive
  • The cartoon in which the Prophet is trying to
    stop suicide bombers entering the afterlife
    because they have run out of virgins has a kind
    of political point behind it. But I don't think
    they really appreciated the massive taboo you
    cross by portraying the image of Muhammad. There
    is really no historical precedent for it.
  • I'm sure the level of offence is far greater than
    would have been intended.

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Munira Mirza is a commentator on multicultural
issues and Islamophobia
  • Many Muslims want the same freedoms as everyone
    else to debate, criticise and challenge their
    religion. - Feb 2006
  • Many don't want to be treated as a special group,
    seen as worthy of more protection from criticism
    than other groups because of their apparent
    victim status.
  • There are a lot of British Muslims who I'm sure
    would not be offended by the cartoons. There are,
    of course, many who are upset and hurt, but
    that's the point of living in a free society.
  • No matter the price, the principle of freedom
    must be defended. Unless we stand up for freedom
    of speech, we are unable to engage freely and
    hold belief systems - of all kinds - to account.
  • In Denmark, there are counter-demonstrations by
    moderate Muslims saying they don't want the
    images banned.
  • This idea that all Muslims have to hold the line
    against Islamophobia is just nonsense. We should
    not play the games of extremists and nor should
    we play into the very patronising assumptions of
    the British political elite about what Muslims
    are capable of listening to.

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Sayeed Nadeem Kazmi is a member of the Al-Khoei
Foundation, an Islamic charitable organisation
based in London
  • It is interesting that these cartoons were first
    published in Denmark, where there is an official
    Nazi party. Feb 2006

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Karen Armstrong is a leading British commentator
on religious affairs and author of Muhammad A
Biography of the Prophet
  • - do we have a right to say whatever we want even
    if it is false and dangerous?
  • More importantly, however, freedom is as sacred a
    value for us as the Prophet is to Muslims. Feb
    2006
  • We are seeing here a clash of two different
    notions of what is sacred and this is part of the
    modernising process.
  • Modernisation and secularisation has this bumpy
    ride where people at different levels of
    modernisation are clashing. In other parts of the
    world where modernisation is not yet complete it
    is not regarded as a crucial as other sacred
    realities.

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Roger Koppel is the editor of the German
newspaper Die Welt, which reprinted some of the
cartoons
  • It's our cultural tradition. I think it is
    legitimate to publish pictures and cartoons like
    this I don't think they go too far. Of course,
    my personal opinion is that the reactions have
    gone way, way too far.
  • We did it because it's a highly political event
    of course and we wanted to show what is the
    corpus delicti, the reason for all this uproar -
    that was the first thing. And the second thought
    was that we think that we are living in a secular
    society where even religion can be subjected to
    criticism and satire.
  • It's not acceptable in a western country, if you
    publish a cartoon like this, that the newspaper
    has to apologise, or even the prime minister has
    to apologise.
  • Also, Muslim spiritual leaders seem not to be
    doing much in order to calm the reaction of their
    people, in order to explain, for example, what it
    means in our tradition to publish cartoons like
    this.
  • D.Lim Do these Muslim spiritual leaders respect
    any others, any country that is not Islamic? In
    their teachings? In their lives?

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Dr Lam Akol the Sudanese foreign minister
  • In the Third World they hardly separate between
    what is a journalist and what is the Danish
    government's point of view.
  • Once a Danish paper has published something then
    it is concluded that this is the opinion of
    everybody in Denmark. So that is the kind of
    feeling that should have been understood from the
    beginning. Feb 2006
  • D.Lim Seems that the thought to be Third World
    need some education to align with the Modern
    Industrialised West. This development was due to
    Christianity.

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Love in Islam?
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This Conflict Has Little To Do With Drawn Lines
  • The difference in this instance is that tens of
    thousands, if not hundreds of thousands of
    mainstream Muslims took to the streets of
    Denmark, Lebanon, Iran, Norway, Britain and
    countries all over the world demanding that the
    editorial cartoonists who drew the offending
    caricatures be put to death or at the very least
    demanding that their hands be cut off, literally.
    This lends credence to a growing perception that
    Muslims actively expect the world to conform to
    their ideals. - By Frank SalvatoFebruary 10,
    2006

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Action of Muslims
  • ARABS ATTACK DANISH PEACEKEEPING HEADQUARTERS IN
    HEBRON 10 Feb 2006
  • HAMAS TERRORISM BRINGS ABOUT ISRAELI RETREAT -
    10 Feb 2006

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In Halifax
  • The professor who put the cartoons on his office
    door said he was merely trying to promote a
    reasoned debate. 10 Feb 2006

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Who are the violent Mulsims rioting in the street?
  • The most moderate Muslim will go to the street
    and talk against it because this hurts the
    sentiments of every Muslim
  • Pervez Musharraf 13 Feb 2006
  • The rest who do not come out are less moderate?
    More violent? More wary?

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More fire than bonfire
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More evil than good
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More violence than tolerance
  • The most moderate Muslim will go to the street
    and talk against it because this hurts the
    sentiments of every Muslim - Pervez Musharraf
    13 Feb 2006

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Jesus teaches bearing the cross
  • Christians allow enemies to tread on them and
    tread on the cross. - David Lim

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Muslims show little respect for the cross
  • Enemies of the cross like to tread on people and
    tread on the cross. - David Lim

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Islamic tradition explicitly prohibits any
depiction of Allah and the Prophet.
  • Muslims have idolized the Quran

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Islamic tradition explicitly prohibits any
depiction of Allah and the Prophet.
  • However the author of Islam is depicted in words
    and worshipped in words.
  • The leaders of Islam are revered and worshipped
    in photos and pictures.

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Hundreds of Palestinian students protest in the
West Bank city of Hebron shouting "Death to Jews
and Denmark". The most moderate Muslim will go
to the street and talk against it because this
hurts the sentiments of every Muslim - Pervez
Musharraf 13 Feb 2006
  • The most moderate Muslim advocating death to
    nations and people groups?
  • Where is the love and desire for peace?
  • Where is the love for enemies and neighbours?

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Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov warns that
members of Danish NGOs may be the victims of
"revenge attacks" there if Denmark does not
apologise Feb 2006
  • Attacks by a people of peace?
  • Victimized by a people of peace?

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The Practice of Love
  • 6 If we say that we have fellowship with Him(God,
    Yesu) and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do
    not practice the truth
  • 7 but if we walk in the Light as He Himself is in
    the Light, we have fellowship with one another,
    and the blood of Jesus(Yeshua) His Son cleanses
    us from all sin. 1John1vv6,7 Holy Bible

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"I don't see how any civilised person can take
the issue of freedom of press to hurt the
feelings of such a large population of the
world," President Pervez Musharraf told visiting
journalists. - Feb 2006
  • And such a large population of the world pour
    scorn on freedom of the press?
  • Lie about Jesus Christ, and attack His Deity
    publicly and privately?
  • Pour scorn and insult against many national
    flags?
  • Rioted in the street and cause death and hurt
    again and again?
  • Burnt embassies in Islamic country and issue
    threat?
  • While wanting to differentiate groups of Muslims
    would not differentiate a few reporters from a
    number of countries and millions of people in the
    World?
  • Calling Denmark and Europe Christian? Hence
    declaring war and jihad against Christians and
    Christian countries Worldwide?
  • Proclaim Islamic aggression that it will advance
    into countries and cultures and rule the World?
  • Show no reference to the Bible to expectation
    that Christians should support their course or
    sympathize with them?

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The World is tolerating Anti-Christ
  • v18 Children, it is the last hour and just as
    you heard that antichrist is coming, even now
    many antichrists have appeared from this we know
    that it is the last hour.
  • v19 They went out from us, but they were not
    really of us for if they had been of us, they
    would have remained with us but they went out,
    so that it would be shown that they all are not
    of us. Holy Bible
  • 22v Who is the liar but the one who denies that
    Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, the
    one who denies the Father and the Son.
    1John2vv18-23

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How Great is Allah?
  • 1 See how great a love the Father has bestowed on
    us, that we would be called children of God and
    such we are For this reason the world does not
    know us, because it did not know Him.
    1John3v1 The Holy Bible, The Word of God
  • No freedom of expression in Islam, so as to have
    no Western Terrorism?

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Pakistani Pastor Kidnapped and Tortured
  • At about 1030 a.m. on February 16,2006, Rev.
    Joseph Praim was walking to his bank in Lahore,
    Pakistan to pay a bill when a car stopped near
    him. Islamic preachers jumped out and grabbed
    him. A handkerchief was placed over his mouth and
    he immediately lost consciousness. According to
    VOMC sources, the pastor of the Full Gospel
    Assemblies was robbed and woke up in a dark room
    where he was tied up, beaten and threatened with
    death.?His abductors told him, "You belong to
    Christianity and your Christian brothers made
    derogatory cartoons of Prophet Mohammad in
    Denmark that's why we are going to kill
    you."?After five days without food or water, he
    was finally left on the road, tied up.?Pastor
    Praim is now in hiding as he recuperates from his
    captivity.

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Pakistan 2005
  • On November 12 2005, over 1000 angry Muslims
    destroyed various churches and other buildings
    after Yousaf Masih was accused of setting fire to
    a room full of Islamic books, including copies of
    the Quran.?Masih was accused of blasphemy.
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