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GoodNewsTour.com
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Job
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Big picture
- At the conclusion of the story, God rebukes Jobs
friends - You did not speak the truth about me, the way my
servant Job did (Job 427 - GN). - The issue of the whole book, as God said, is the
truth about me. - Through this story, God is revealing more truth
about his character
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Satans challenge
- When the day came for the heavenly beings to
appear before the Lord, Satan was there among
them. The Lord asked him, What have you been
doing? Satan answered, I have been walking here
and there, roaming around the earth. Did you
notice my servant Job? the Lord asked. There is
no one on earth as faithful and good as he is. He
worships me and is careful not to do anything
evil. Satan replied, Would Job worship you if
he got nothing out of it? You have always
protected him and his family and everything he
owns. You bless everything he does, and you have
given him enough cattle to fill the whole
country. But now suppose you take away everything
he hashe will curse you to your face! All
right, the Lord said to Satan, everything he
has is in your power, but you must not hurt Job
himself. So Satan left (Job 16-12 GN).
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Trial 1 loss of family and wealth
- One day when Job's sons and daughters were
eating and drinking wine in their oldest
brother's home, a messenger came to Job. He said,
While the oxen were plowing and the donkeys were
grazing nearby, men from Sheba attacked. They
took the livestock and massacred the servants.
Im the only one who has escaped to tell you.
While he was still speaking, another messenger
came and said, A fire from God fell from heaven
and completely burned your flocks and servants.
Im the only one who has escaped to tell you.
While he was still speaking, another messenger
came and said, The Chaldeans formed three
companies and made a raid on the camels. They
took the camels and massacred the servants. Im
the only one who has escaped to tell you. While
he was still speaking, another messenger came and
said, Your sons and your daughters were eating
and drinking wine at their oldest brother's home
when suddenly a great storm swept across the
desert and struck the four corners of the house.
It fell on the young people, and they died. Im
the only one who has escaped to tell you. Job
stood up, tore his robe in grief, and shaved his
head. Then he fell to the ground and worshiped.
He said, Naked I came from my mother, and naked
I will return. The LORD has given, and the LORD
has taken away! May the name of the LORD be
praised. Through all this Job did not sin or
blame God for doing anything wrong. (Job 113-22
GODS WORD)
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God 1 Satan 0
- Again God initiates a very public conversation
with Satan - When the day came for the heavenly beings to
appear before the Lord again, Satan was there
among them. The Lord asked him, Where have you
been? Satan answered, I have been walking here
and there, roaming around the earth. Did you
notice my servant Job? the Lord asked. There is
no one on earth as faithful and good as he is. He
worships me and is careful not to do anything
evil. You persuaded me to let you attack him for
no reason at all, but Job is still as faithful as
ever. Satan replied, A person will give up
everything in order to stay alive. But now
suppose you hurt his bodyhe will curse you to
your face! So the Lord said to Satan, All
right, he is in your power, but you are not to
kill him (Job 21-5 GN). - Poor Job!
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Trial 2 Physical suffering
- Then Satan left the Lords presence and made
sores break out all over Jobs body. Job went and
sat by the garbage dump and took a piece of
broken pottery to scrape his sores. His wife said
to him, You are still as faithful as ever,
aren't you? Why dont you curse God and die? Job
answered, You are talking nonsense! When God
sends us something good, we welcome it. How can
we complain when he sends us trouble? Even in
all this suffering Job said nothing against God
(Job 27-10 GN).
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Jobs depression
- I hate my life I do not want to live forever.
Leave me alone because my days are so brief.
"What is a mortal that you should make so much of
him, that you should be concerned about him?
(Job 716-17 GODS WORD)
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Why?
- Why would God allow such punishment to be brought
upon a man of whom he just said, there is no one
on earth as faithful and good as he is (Job 18
GN)?
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Who was watching?
- The angels are described as present in these
conversations between Satan and God - How many remained loyal to God?
- This earth is a spectacle for the whole world of
angels (1 Corinthians 49 - GN) - The angels are even described as learning from
the experience of Gods followers (the church) on
earth - God, who is the Creator of all things, kept his
secret hidden through all the past ages, in order
that at the present time, by means of the church,
the angelic rulers and powers in the heavenly
world might learn of his wisdom in all its
different forms (Ephesians 39,10 GN). - Even the Good News is not only for us, but for
angels as well - God revealed to these prophets that their work
was not for their own benefit, but for yours, as
they spoke about those things which you have now
heard from the messengers who announced the Good
News by the power of the Holy Spirit sent from
heaven. These are things which even the angels
would like to understand (1 Peter 112, GN).
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Who was watching?
- God is teaching the sinless angels
- And we are watching
- God, despite having all power, has chosen to
achieve victory by demonstration and evidence
not power - Though everyone else in the world is a liar, God
is true. As the Scriptures say, He will be
proved right in what he says, and he will win his
case in court (Romans 34, NLT). - What are we to learn from this story? What did
the angels learn from this story?
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Trial 3 The friends
- While they were still a long way off they saw
Job, but did not recognize him. When they did,
they began to weep and wail, tearing their
clothes in grief and throwing dust into the air
and on their heads. Then they sat there on the
ground with him for seven days and nights without
saying a word, because they saw how much he was
suffering (Job 212,13 GN). - Was everything the friends said false?
- Has Satan ever quoted scripture?
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Big picture
- From reading the entire book of Job, we know that
God declares Job to be good at the beginning of
the book, there is no one on earth as faithful
and good as he is (Job 18). - And, after the conversation with the friends is
over, God says to the friends, you did not speak
the truth about me, the way my servant Job did
(Job 427). - We need to ask, what did Job say that was right?
What did the friends say that was wrong? - Why did God come in the end and apparently rebuke
Job?
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Eliphaz speaks
- Once a message came quietly, so quietly I could
hardly hear it. Like a nightmare it disturbed my
sleep. I trembled and shuddered my whole body
shook with fear. A light breeze touched my face,
and my skin crawled with fright. I could see
something standing there I stared, but couldnt
tell what it was. Then I heard a voice out of the
silence (Job 412-16 GN). - Who inspired this vision?
- Job
- But you you terrify me with dreams you send
visions and nightmares (Job 714 GN).
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Eliphaz
- Can anyone be righteous in the sight of God or
be pure before his Creator? God does not trust
his heavenly servants he finds fault even with
his angels. Do you think he will trust a creature
of clay, a thing of dust that can be crushed like
a moth? (Job 417-19 GN). - He repeats this assertion later
- Can human beings be really pure? Can anyone be
right with God? Why, God does not trust even his
angels even they are not pure in his sight. And
we drink evil as if it were water yes, we are
corrupt we are worthless (Job 1514,15 GN). - Do you agree with these words?
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God doesnt trust anyoneWe are worthless
- But yet, hadnt God just declared Job as good?
Perfect and upright (Job 18 KJV). - Does God ever refer to his children as worthless?
- Abraham But you, Israel my servant, you are
the people that I have chosen, the descendants of
Abraham, my friend (Isaiah 418 GN) - Moses The LORD would speak with Moses
face-to-face, just as someone speaks with a
friend (Exodus 3311 GN) - David is referred to as a man after his own
heart (1 Samuel 1314, KJV) - The angel tells Daniel, O Daniel, man greatly
beloved (Daniel 1011, NKJV) - How damaging to hear this in a parent-child
relationship
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God doesnt trust anyoneWe are worthless
- Jesus I do not call you servants any longer
because servants do not know what their master is
doing. Instead, I call you friends (John
1515). - Jesus When the Son of Man came, he ate and
drank, and everyone said, Look at this man! He
is a glutton and wine drinker, a friend of tax
collectors and other outcasts! (Matthew 1119
GN) - Jesus The sisters sent Jesus a message Lord,
your dear friend is sick.Jesus saw her weeping,
and he saw how the people with her were weeping
also his heart was touched, and he was deeply
moved. Where have you buried him? he asked
them. Come and see, Lord, they answered. Jesus
wept. (John 113,33-35 GN) - Jesus Jerusalem, Jerusalem! You kill the
prophets and stone the messengers God has sent
you! How many times I wanted to put my arms
around all your people, just as a hen gathers her
chicks under her wings, but you would not let
me! (Matthew 2337 GN)
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Satan undermines Gods character
- God does not trust his heavenly servants he
finds fault even with his angelsWhy, God does
not trust even his angels even they are not pure
in his sight - If the words of Eliphaz are true
- God is cold, distant, severe, and regards his
children (even the sinless angels) as worthless
and untrustworthy
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Worthless to God?
- Bildad
- Then what about a human being, that worm, that
insect? What is a human life worth in Gods
eyes? (Job 256 GN) - Job
- Who inspired you so speak like this? (Job 264
GN) - God
- For God so loved the world that he gave his only
Son (John 316 GN)
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Eliphaz again
- Good people are glad and the innocent laugh when
they see the wicked punished (Job 2219 GN). - Using Jesus as our model, can we imagine him
laughing over the suffering of his children? - God
- The people I love are doing evil things
(Jeremiah 1115 GN) - How can I give you up, Israel? How can I abandon
you? (Hosea 118 GN) - Tell them that as surely as I, the Sovereign
LORD, am the living God, I do not enjoy seeing
sinners die. I would rather see them stop sinning
and live. Israel, stop the evil you are doing.
Why do you want to die? (Ezekiel 3311 GN). - Should not good and innocent people reflect
the attitude of God?
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Is suffering evidence of Gods curse?
- Eliphaz asks Job
- Think back now. Name a single case where someone
righteous met with disaster (Job 47 GN) - Happy is the person whom God corrects! Do not
resent it when he rebukes you (Job 517 GN) - Is God correcting or testing Job in this story?
- From Gods own statements at the beginning and
the end of the book, we know that this is not the
point. - Job You have gone far enough. Stop being
unjust. Dont condemn me. Im in the right (Job
620 GN)
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Do good people ever suffer loss?
- Paul writes of the prophets in the Old Testament
- Some were mocked and whipped, and others were
put in chains and taken off to prison. They were
stoned, they were sawed in two, they were killed
by the sword. They went clothed in skins of sheep
or goats poor persecuted, and mistreated. The
world was not good enough for them! They wandered
like refugees in the deserts and hills, living in
caves and holes in the ground (Hebrews 1137, 38
GN). - Paul describes the suffering he endured
- Five times I was given the thirty-nine lashes by
the Jews three times I was whipped by the
Romans and once I was stoned. I have been in
three shipwrecks, and once I spent twenty-four
hours in the water. In my many travels I have
been in danger from floods and from robbers, in
danger from my own people and from Gentiles
there have been dangers in the cities, dangers in
the wilds, dangers on the high seas, and dangers
from false friends. There has been work and toil
often I have gone without sleep I have been
hungry and thirsty I have often been without
enough food, shelter, or clothing (2 Corinthians
1124-27 GN). - Jesus
- Happy are those who are persecuted because they
do what God requires the Kingdom of heaven
belongs to them! (Matthew 510 GN). - The Cross
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Do good people ever suffer loss?
- From a worldly point of view, the lives of Gods
best friends on earth often appear to have been a
complete failure - For he makes his sun to shine on bad and good
people alike, and gives rain to those who do good
and to those who do evil (Matthew 545 GN). - Job sarcastically asks
- Was a wicked persons light ever put out? Did
one of them ever meet with disaster? Did God ever
punish the wicked in anger and blow them away
like straw in the wind or like dust carried away
in a storm? (Job 2117,18 GN).
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Rich/healthy blessed by GodPoor/sick cursed
by God
- Teacher, whose sin caused him to be born blind?
Was it his own or his parents sin? - Jesus answered, His blindness has nothing to do
with his sins or his parents sins (John 92,3
GN). - How hard it is for rich people to enter the
Kingdom of God! It is much harder for a rich
person to enter the Kingdom of God than for a
camel to go through the eye of a needle. The
people who heard him asked, Who, then, can be
saved? (Luke 1924-26 GN). - Happy are you poor the Kingdom of God is yours
(Luke 620 GN)
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You are being punished Job
- Put your heart right, Job. Reach out to God. Put
away evil and wrong from your home. Then face the
world again, firm and courageous. Then all your
troubles will fade from your memory, like floods
that are past and remembered no more (Job 114-6
GN). - But now you are being punished as you deserve
(Job 3617 GN) - God is punishing you less than you deserve (Job
116 GN) - Any sensible person will surely agree and the
wise who hear me will say that Job is speaking
from ignorance and that nothing he says makes
sense. Think through everything that Job says
you will see that he talks like an evil man. To
his sins he adds rebellion in front of us all he
mocks God (Job 3434-37 GN).
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Job questions God
- You think you are better than I am, and regard
my troubles as proof of my guilt. Cant you see
it is God who has done this? He has set a trap to
catch me. I protest his violence, but no one is
listening no one hears my cry for justice. He
has taken away all my wealth and destroyed my
reputation. God has made my own family forsake
me I am a stranger to those who knew me my
relatives and friends are gone. Those who were
guests in my house have forgotten me my servant
women treat me like a stranger and a foreigner.
When I call a servant, he doesn't answer even
when I beg him to help me. My wife cant stand
the smell of my breath, and my own brothers won't
come near me. Children despise me and laugh when
they see me. My closest friends look at me with
disgust those I loved most have turned against
me. My skin hangs loose on my bones I have
barely escaped with my life. You are my friends!
Take pity on me! How I wish that someone would
remember my words and record them in a book! Or
with a chisel carve my words in stone and write
them so that they would last forever (Job
195-7,9,13-21 GN).
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Job questions God
- Was God offended by Jobs accusation and
complaint? Was Job about to renounce God? - Job continues
- But I know there is someone in heaven who will
come at last to my defense. Even after my skin is
eaten by disease, while still in this body I will
see God. I will see him with my own eyes, and he
will not be a stranger (Job 1925-27 GN). - I still rebel and complain against God I cannot
keep from groaning. How I wish I knew where to
find him, and knew how to go where he is. I would
state my case before him and present all the
arguments in my favor. I want to know what he
would say and how he would answer me. Would God
use all his strength against me? No, he would
listen as I spoke. I am honest I could reason
with God he would declare me innocent once and
for all (Job 231-7 GN).
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Jobs picture of God vs. Satans false
caricature of God
- Elihu
- Cold, distant, severe God. One to be avoided.
- I wont ask to speak with God why should I give
him a chance to destroy me? Gods power is so
great that we cannot come near him (Job
3720,23 GN). - God zaps people on the spot who speak to God the
way you are Job - Job
- Intimate, personal, loving, approachable.
- Would God use all his strength against me? No,
he would listen as I spoke. I am honest I could
reason with God he would declare me innocent
once and for all (Job 236,7 GN) - Does God allow the emotion that Job expressed?
- Take this cup away from me
- My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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We can talk to God as a Friend
- Moses Lord, why do you mistreat your people?
Why did you send me here? Ever since I went to
the king to speak for you, he has treated them
cruelly. And you have done nothing to help them!
(Exodus 522,23 GN). - Abraham Surely you wont kill the innocent with
the guilty. Thats impossible! You cant do that.
If you did, the innocent would be punished along
with the guilty. That is impossible. The judge of
all the earth has to act justly (Genesis 1825
GN). - The Psalms
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What was most painful of all for Job?
- Where is my Friend?
- I have searched in the East, but God is not
there I have not found him when I searched in
the West. God has been at work in the North and
the South, but still I have not seen him. Yet God
knows every step I take if he tests me, he will
find me pure (Job 238-10 GN) - If only my life could once again be as it was
when God watched over me. God was always with me
then and gave me light as I walked through the
darkness. Those were the days when I was
prosperous, and the friendship of God protected
my home (Job 291-3 GN) - I call to you, O God, but you never answer and
when I pray, you pay no attention (Job 3020
GN) - But Job knew God well enough to say this
- Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him (Job
1315, KJV).
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