Title: The%20Bible,%20From%20God%20or%20Man?
1- The Bible, From God or Man?
- John Oakes
- Churgdu Church of Christ Campus Ministry
- 3/1/2012
2A Typical Attitude We Hear
Delos B. McKown Christianity is
scientifically unsupported and probably
insupportable, philosophically suspect at best
and disreputable at worst, and historically
fraudulent. ???????????,??????????,?????????????
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3Proposition 1 ???
- The Bible is scientifically unsupported and
probably insupportible
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4Papyrus Ebers???????
5- The Ebers Papyrus ???????
- To prevent hair from turning gray, anoint it
with the blood of a calf which has been boiled in
oil or with the fat of a rattlesnake. - ???????,??????? ??,?????????????????????
- A mixture of six fats, namely those of the
horse, the hippopotamus, the crocodile, the cat,
the snake and the ibex.... to prevent hair loss. - ?????????????? ???????? ..???????
6Drugs of Choice included ??????
- Lizards blood ???
- Swines teeth ??
- Putrid meat ????
- Moisture from Pigs ears ?????
- Excreta from animals including human beings,
donkeys, antelope, dogs, cats and flies
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7 I will not bring on you any of these
diseases... Exodus 1526 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
???? 1526 The pig... is
unclean for you...those that walk on their
paws...the weasel, the rat...are unclean for
you. Leviticus 11 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
??? 11
8 The sting of a hornet is healed by the
house-fly, crushed and applied to the wound.
???????,????????????? The gnat, feeble
creature, taking in food but never secreting it
is a specific against the poison of the viper.
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?? An ancient Hebrew medical manuscript.
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9Whoever touches the dead body of anyone will be
unclean for seven days. He must purify himself
with the water on the third and seventh
day...take some hyssop, dip it in the water and
sprinkle the tent and furnishings and the people
who were there. Numbers 19 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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??? 19
10Semelweiss
11Vienna ???, 1847
- In maternity wards one out of every six women
dies.
?????,???????????? - Obstetricians ascribe deaths to constipation,
fear and poisonous air.
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12Death Rate falls from 18 to 1 ????18??1
13Thymol (Oil of Hyssop)????
14 For the generations to come, every male among
you who is eight days old must be
circumcised... Genesis 1712 ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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???1712 Vitamin K ???K Prothrombrin a
clotting protein. ??????????????
15Clotting Protein Peaks on Day Eight ??????????????
?
Available Prothrombin
16Abrahams Experiment ???????
Day Circumcised ?????? Number of Hebrew Boys ???????? Number of Deaths ????
1 823 4
3 759 6
5 693 8
7 855 3
9 770 2
11 698 4
17Proposition 1 ???
- The Bible is scientifically unsupported and
probably insupportable
??????????? - Genesis 1, Hebrews 113 ??? 1, ????113
- Response Oh really ?? ???
18Proposition 2 ???
- Christianity is philosophically suspect at best
????????????? - Delos McKown
Socrates
19Naturalism/Scientism/Materialism???? /?????? /
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- The belief that the only reliable or valid
instrument to deciding the truth or even the
value of any proposition is the scientific
method. ????????????????????
???? - No basis for ethics or morality, no supernatural,
no God, no truth (except that found by science),
no consciousness, no I. Justice is a figment of
our imagination.
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(????????),????,?? ??, ????????????
20Materialism????
- We exist as material beings in a material world,
all of whose phenomena are the consequences of
material relations among material entities. In a
word, the public needs to accept materialism,
which means that they must put God in the trash
can of history where such myths belong.
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???,?????????????????????? - Richard Lewontin
- Retrospective essay on Carl Sagan in the
January 9, 1997 New York Review of Books,
21Postmodernism The Loss of Truth?????????
- Truth, if such a thing exists, is the property of
culture. There is no absolute truth. All truth
is relative. It is created by societies.
There is no ultimate moral authority or moral
absolute. ??,??????,??????????????,?????????,?????
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22A Response to Naturalism/Materialism/Scientism
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- It is a faith/religious belief based on circular
reasoning. ????????????? - It cannot answer the questions human beings care
about. ????????????? - It is patently and demonstrably false.
???????????? - Does accepting naturalism make us better?
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23Questions Science Can Answer????????
- When? ???
- What? ???
- Where? ????
- How many? ????
- By what means? ???????
24Questions Science Cannot Answer(That
Christianity Does Answer)????????? (????????)
- Why am I here? ???????
- Is that the right thing to do? ????????
- How valuable am I? ????????
- Does God exist? Does God act (theism)?
??????????(???)? - Will that God respond if I pray?
?????????? - Do supernatural events (miracles) happen?
?????(??)????? - Why is there evil and suffering in the world?
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25Materialism is Patently False ?????????
- If Materialism/Naturalism is right then
?????? / ??????? - I do not exist. Consciousness is just random
moving around of chemicals.
?????,????????????????? - No soul, no spirit, no non-physical reality.
???,???,???????? - Life has no value. Human beings have no value.
What is value?
?????????????????,??????? - Love is chemicals moving around (vs. God is
love) ???????????? (?????)
26Naturalism is Patently False Because.
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- The universe was created. ???????
- Life was created. ???????
- The Anthropic Principle. The universe is
ridiculously well fine-tuned for us to exist.
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????????????????? - No one in their right mind can deny the existence
of right and wrong
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- The Bible is inspired by God. ????????
27Postmodernism Cultural Relativism
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- Truth It is true for you, but it is not true
for me. ?????????,???????? - Meaning, if it exists, lies in a community of
believers. ??,?????,?????????? - No rational way to discover which is the best
world view. ???????????????????
28Problems With Postmodernism????????
- Self-refuting. ????
- If nothing is true, then postmodernism is not
true. ??????????,???????????? - Its authors insist on authorial privilege.
??????????????? - I do not care what they say, some things are just
true. ????????????,??????? - Either God is real or he is not. Even if I
cannot prove it one way or another. ?????????,
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29The Christian World View Is True ???????????
- The Universe is Real ?????
- The creation is good.?????
- Evil exists.????
- Despite what Naturalists say, there is a
spiritual reality. For example, I exist.
Consciousness is not simply an epiphenomenon.
??????????,?????????????? ???,??????????? - Science and the Christian world view do not
contradict. ???????????????
30Christianity Offers Solutions to the Big Problems
of Human Beings ?????????????
- The Problem of Evil ?????
- The Problem of Suffering ?????
- The Problem of Death ?????
31The Christian World View Has Given Us
???????????
- Science ??
- Abolition of Slavery (Wilberforce) ?????? (????)
- Civil Rights ??
- Womens Rights ??
- Christian groups do a majority of all benevolent
work in the world (James 127, Micah 68)
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32Two Good Questions ?????
- Does evil exist? ??????
- If God is all-loving and all-powerful and
all-good, then why is there evil?
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33The answer Gods love. ?????Free Will God
Gives Us a Choice??????????Why? Because he
loves us.??????????The result We rebelled and
brought evil into the world. Is this Gods
fault? What is the alternative?
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- Deuteronomy 3015-20 ??? 3015-20
34Free Will, An Illustration The Prodigal
Son????,??????
35Proposition 3 ???
- Christianity is historically fraudulent
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36Ruins of Hattusha, capital of the Hittites
37The Lion Gate in Hattusha
38The Five City League, including Sodom and Gomorrah
39The Tel Dan Inscription 820 BC 2 Kings
828-29 ???? 828-29 I Hazael killed Joram, son
of Omri and I defeated Ahaziah of the House of
David ????????????,???????????
40Pilate Inscription Caesarea AD 30
41Ziggurat in Ur
42Proposition 4 ???
- The Bible is full of contradictions.
????????? - Genesis 717 vs Genesis 83 ? 717 vs ? 83
- Genesis 3736 vs Genesis 391 ? 3736 vs ?
391 - Mathew 275 vs Acts 118 ? 275 vs ? 118
- John 1917 vs Mark 1521-23 ? 1917 vs ?
1521-23 - More serious Exodus 204-5 vs Ezek 1819-20
???? ?204-5 vs ? 1819-20
43Proposition 5 Jesus is Just a Myth
??? ??????Inspiration of the
BibleMessianic Prophecies Fulfilled
??????????????
- He said to them, This is what I told you while I
was still with you Everything must be fulfilled
that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the
Prophets and the Psalms. Luke 2444 - ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ???? 2444
44- Isaiah 531-13 ? 531-13
- He was despised and rejected by men, a man of
sorrows, familiar with suffering. (v. 3)
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? - But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was
crushed for our iniquities the punishment that
brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds
we are healed. (v. 5) (John 1931-37)? ? ? ? ? ?
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? .? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
? . ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? - He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not
open his mouth he was led like a lamb to the
slaughter and as a sheep before her shearers is
silent, so he did not open his mouth. (v. 7)
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46Micah 52 ??? 52 But you, Bethlehem Ephrathrah,
though you are small among the clans of Judah,
out of you will come for me one who will be ruler
over Israel, whose origins are from old, from
ancient times.
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47Isaiah 91,6 ???? 91,6 In the past he humbled
the land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali, but
in the future he will honor Galilee of the
Gentiles, by the way of the sea, along the
Jordan. For to us a child is born And he will
be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God,
Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. ? ? ? ? ? ?
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50Psalm 2216-18 ?? 2216-18 Dogs have surrounded
me a band of evil men have encircled me,
they have pierced my hands and my feet. I can
count all my bones (John 193-37) people
stare and gloat over me. They divide my garments
among them and cast lots for my clothing.
(John 1923,24) ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ? ? . ? ? ? ?
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53Zechariah 1112,13 ????? 1112, 13 I told them,
If you think it best, give me my pay but if
not, keep it. so they paid me thirty pieces of
silver. (Matthew 2614-16) ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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(?2614-16)
And the Lord said to me, Throw it to the
potterthe handsome price at which they priced
me! So I took the thirty pieces of silver and
threw them into the house of the Lord, to the
potter. (Matthew 273-8) ??????????????????????
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54Daniel 924-26 ???? 924-26 Seventy sevens
are decreed for your people and your holy city to
finish transgression, to put an end to sin, to
atone for wickedness, to bring in everlasting
righteousness, to seal up vision and prophecy and
to anoint the most holy. Know and understand
this From the issuing of the decree to restore
and rebuild Jerusalem, until the Anointed One,
the ruler comes, there will be seven sevens and
sixty two sevens ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?
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? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Decree of Artaxerxes
(Ezra 712-26) 458 BC 458 BC - 490 years -32
(no zero BC)
55According to the Old Testament, the Messiah
must????,?????
- Be born in Bethlehem ??????
- Be raised in Galilee near Nazareth ??????????
- Be despised and rejected by men ???????
- Be meek and silent before his accusers
????????????? - Be pierced ???
- Be crucified ?????
- Have his garments divided and gambled over
???????? - Be betrayed for 30 pieces of silver ????????
- Come to Jerusalem to make atonement for sin in
about AD 33 ???33??????????? - And many more. ??.
- Was all this an accident, or did God plan all
along for the Passion of the Christ for
forgiveness of sins? What do you think?
????????????????,?????????????????????? - Is the Bible the Word of God or the word of men?
- ???????????????
56If The Bible is the Word of GodWe Need to Put it
Into Practice?????????,???????????
- Hebrews 111 Faith in what is not seen.
?111????????? - John 1247-50 The Word will be our judge
?1247-50 ?????????? - James 122-25 Put it into practice
?122-25 ???? - 2 Tim 41-5 No sentimentality. Eternal life
is at stake. ??41-5 ??????,???????
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