I know that my redeemer liveth

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I know that my redeemer liveth

• Khinckley1_at_yahoo.com

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Things to know about Job

• Many think the book is fictional
• (Very interesting Testament of Job)
• Job probably lived during the time of Abraham,
  Issac and Jacob
• Job is never described as a prophet instead he
  is an everyman
• Job is described as perfect and upright, and one
  that feared God, and eschewed evil

though these three men, Noah, Daniel, and Job,
were in it, they should deliver but their own
souls by their righteousness, saith the Lord
God." (Ezek. 1414.)
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Jewish Encyclopedia

• The negative result reached by...  the Book of
  Job may be stated as follows What hitherto has
  been called divine justice is merely the display
  of the omnipotence of God. His decisions are
  devoid of all moral qualities, and are pronounced
  indifferently, as blessings or as curses, upon
  all men, upon the good and the bad alike.
• In the same way men are prosperous or unhappy
  according to the fortuitous events of their
  lives, quite independently of their ethical
  qualities. The gifts of fortune and the strokes
  of calamity are in no wise connected either with
  God's justice or with man's moral nature.

Translation Jobs afflictions appear arbitrary
and random- We just dont know WHY he
suffered! And we must know WHY!! (if we know why
we can prevent it from happening to us!)
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Jobs Three Main Trials

• Trial 1- Loss of possessions
• "Job arose, and rent his mantle, and shaved his
  head, and fell down upon the ground, and
  worshipped, And said, Naked came I out of my
  mother's womb, and naked shall I return thither
  the Lord gave, and the Lord hath taken away
  blessed be the name of the Lord. In all this Job
  sinned not, nor charged God foolishly." (Job
  120-22.)

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Harold B. Lee

• To be poor in spirit is to feel yourselves as the
  spiritually needy, even dependent upon the Lord
  for your clothes, your food, the air you breathe,
  your health, your life realizing that no day
  should pass without fervent prayer of
  thanksgiving, for guidance and forgiveness and
  strength sufficient for each day's need.
• It is indeed a sad thing for one, because of his
  wealth or learning or worldly position, to think
  himself independent of this spiritual need. It is
  the opposite of pride or selfconceit. To the
  worldly rich it is that "he must possess his
  wealth as if he possessed it not" and be willing
  to say without regret, if he were suddenly to
  meet financial disaster, as did Job, "the Lord
  gave, and the Lord hath taken away blessed be
  the name of the Lord." (Job 121.)

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Jobs Three Main Trials

• Trial 2- Loss of Health
• My flesh is clothed with worms and clods
  of dust my skin is broken, and become
  loathsome." (Job 75.)
• He then takes refuge with the lepers

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Neal A. Maxwell

• There is a higher order of suffering in which
  even the good pass through tribulation and
  anguish, which we might characterize as the
  "trial of the innocent." (Job 923.) This is what
  Peter called "the trial of your faith," and also
  what he called "the fiery trial." We read how the
  Prophet Joseph Smith, even though righteous, was
  sorely tried and was told that what he was
  passing through would be but "a small moment,"
  and further, that "all these things shall give
  thee experience, and shall be for thy good." (DC
  1227.)
• These are hard sayings but they are true, and
  they help us understand the suffering of the
  righteous as distinguished from the suffering we
  undergo because of our own stupidity and our own
  sin.

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Jobs Three Main Trials

• Trial 3- The Trial of his friends
• Should thy lies make men hold their peace? and
  when thou mockest, shall no man make thee
  ashamed? . . . Know therefore that God exacteth
  of thee less than thine iniquity deserveth." (Job
  113, 6.)
• Conversations (accusations) with Jobs friends
  constitute 29 of the 38 chapters of the Book of
  Job
• Why would so much of the Book of Job be devoted
  to these conversations?

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Question

• How are we to support someone in their
  afflications?

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Do We Listen To Our Words?

• Bro. Clark V. Johnson, BYU Professor (diagnosed
  with cancer)
• Arrangements were made, and our home teacher and
  bishop came to give me a special blessing. At one
  point in the blessing the bishop said, "I bless
  you with peace. It is so strong that I can feel
  it filling your whole being. At this moment I
  have peace too. I bless you that your body will
  have power to mend itself." Later my wife and I
  pondered the truly marvelous and significant
  blessing I had received.
• This blessing had an interesting effect upon my
  close friends, who asked me about it. I told them
  that I remembered the bishop saying, "Your body
  will have power to mend itself."
• One person said to me, "Of course you'll stay on
  the drugs?" I answered, "Well, I am not sure if
  that is what the blessing meant." He responded,
  "What are you going to do when you get to the
  spirit world and the Lord looks at you and says,
  'What are you doing here? You're forty years too
  early'? it didnt mean what it said
• Another good friend said, "That's great. Your
  body will resurrect your spirit, and you'll be
  exalted in the celestial kingdom." He had
  forgotten Alma's teachings that the spirit
  resurrects the body. (See Alma 39, 41.) False
  Doctrine
• The third person questioned, "Are you really a
  man of faith, or are you afraid of the
  chemotherapy because it makes you sick? You are
  just being weak
• Even though these people meant well, their
  counsel undermined the purity of the blessing I
  had received, until I became confused and lost
  the spirit of peace that had been with me. I did
  not know what to do. My friends meant well. They
  would have done nothing to harm me, but their
  lack of understanding brought confusion instead
  of peace.

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Jobs Response?

• I have heard many such things miserable
  comforters are ye all." (Job 162)

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Brother Johnson

• Years ago, when it looked as though I was
  going to die soon of cancer, I did not want my
  children to be bitter and blame their Father
  in Heaven. At Christmastime we returned home to
  Preston, Idaho, where we spent the Christmas
  season with our parents. During that week I took
  my four oldest children to four different places
  that were special to me while I was growing up
  and taught them concerning Heavenly Father's love
  for them. I told them that it looked as though I
  would have to return to be with him, so I would
  not have the opportunity of being with them as
  they grew up. I promised them that if they would
  live the gospel and go to the temple to be
  sealed, it did not matter if I lived or died-I
  would be with them when they went to the temple.
  After carefully teaching them many things, I gave
  each one a father's blessing.
• While in the Missionary Training Center, our
  eldest son wrote to us about one of the elders in
  his district who bore testimony concerning his
  father's death from cancer. The elder described
  the bitterness that he had felt, and he told of
  the years of pain the death of his father had
  caused him. Then Paul wrote
• "Dad, I remember the time you took me to my
  great-grandfather's old farm. We talked about the
  Indian battle that had been fought there. We
  spoke of other things, and you explained that you
  were dying of cancer and that it looked as though
  you would not be here to help me as I grew up.
  You told me that if I would keep the commandments
  and get married in the temple, you would be there
  to see me married. You said that it didn't matter
  whether you were here on earth or with Heavenly
  Father. Then I knelt in the snow and you blessed
  me. I love you, Dad, for preparing a way so that
  I would not be bitter."