Title: Goal
1Goal
- Answer question
- Was the approximate constancy of RAA in GLV
calculations a pre-diction or post-diction. - Why is this important ?
- Jamie made a good argument
- There are only two clear features in
single-particle RAA - Suppression magnitude
- Constancy with pT
- If GLV didnt predict constant RAA then its
hard to argue that it uniquely describes the
observed suppression. - Especially given Sarcevic et al analysis showing
similar feature from Bethe-Heitler energy loss.
2Test 1
DISCOVERY OF JET QUENCHING AT RHIC AND THE
OPACITY OF THE PRODUCED GLUON PLASMA, P. Levai
et al, Nucl. Phys. A698 631-634,2002 --
nucl-th/0104035
- Use fixed opacity clearly too simple but
opacity 2-4 all constant in unmeasured region.
3Test 2
THE ROLE OF JET QUENCHING IN THE ANTI-P GREATER
THAN OR EQUAL TO PI- ANOMALY AT RHIC,
Proceedings of International Europhysics
Conference on High-Energy Physics, July 2001,
hep-ph/0109198
- Both charged pion constant with pt
- Pion shows some slope vs pt
- h/- less suppressed at 7-8 GeV/c for same gluon
dn/dy.
4Test 3
JET TOMOGRAPHY OF AUAU REACTIONS INCLUDING
MULTIGLUON FLUCTUATIONS, Gyulassy, Levai, Vitev,
Phys.Lett.B538282-288,2002
- Evaluates effect of fluctuations in of emitted
gluons - RAA looks less flat with pt for both cases ??
5Test 3 Compared to others/data
- Put test 3 RAA on same scales as other plots
data. - Calculations are consistent.
- As is data out to 10 GeV !
6Comparison Wang
Last Call for RHIC Predictions, X. Wang
Nucl.Phys.A661205-260,1999, nucl-th/9907090
- Prediction before there was ANY data.
- Already uses RAA !
- Clearly has the wrong trend with pT.
7Comparison Sarcevic
LARGE P(T) INCLUSIVE PI0 PRODUCTION IN HEAVY ION
COLLISIONS AT RHIC AND LHC, Jeon Jalilian-Marian
Sarcevic Jul 2002. Nucl.Phys.A723467-482,2003,
hep-ph/0207120
- Compares constant dE/dx, LPM (BDMS), and
Bethe-Heitles (incoherent) vs pt. - Bethe-Heitler best.
8Conclusion
- The approximately flat suppression vs pt in GLV
was predicted before the data existed. - It results from full calculation
- Log(E) is only an approximation
- Presumably same approximation in BDMS.
9What about Hadronic Reinteraction?
Cassing, Gallmeister Greiner Nucl.Phys.A735277-29
9,2004, hep-ph/0311358
- (Only) 1/3 of true hadrons suffer final-state
interactions. - How reliable is this estimate ?
- What about pre-hadrons interactions ?
- My opinion ad-hoc cartoon (not even a
calculation) of energy loss.