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Title: Web Services Interoperability : Hopes and Realities Author: Glen Daniels Last modified by: rhusar Created Date: 4/8/2004 4:31:49 AM Document presentation format – PowerPoint PPT presentation

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Welcome
  • Me
  • Glen Daniels, Sonics standards guy
  • W3C work SOAP, WSDL
  • Soapbuilders, WS-, etc.
  • JSRs
  • Coauthor of Building Web Services with Java
    from Sams
  • You
  • Interested developers, managers
  • Some familiarity with Web services

2
Our Path for the Next 45 min
  • Interop defined
  • Web Services Overview
  • History
  • State of the World
  • Futures
  • Q A

3
This Is Interoperability (in the US)
4
So Is This
Adapter
5
This Isnt Interoperability
Je ne comprenez-vous pas, aimez-vous un sandwich?
Ich möchte ein Buch kaufen, bitte!
?
(please excuse any translation errors I just
used BabelFish!)
6
...But This Is
Do you speak English?
Yes! Can I help you?
I would like to buy a book please!
Im sorry, this is a sandwich shop!
Oh! How about a pastrami on rye, then?
7
Interoperability Stack
  • Transport (addressing, data flow)
  • Syntax (data format)
  • Data (types)
  • Protocol (communication behavior)
  • Semantics (meaning)

8
Overview of Web Services
  • We all want our software to talk
  • CORBA, RMI, DCE, COM, DCOM, EDI...
  • Why cant we all just get along?
  • XML was gaining good uptake as common data format
  • HTTP obviously works pretty well ?
  • Enter SOAP!
  • XML framework for an interoperable and extensible
    messaging protocol over HTTP

9
The Web Services Stack
  • Messaging (transport)
  • SOAP, Extensions for QoS, Security, etc.
  • Description (metadata and tooling)
  • WSDL, Policy, RDF
  • Directories (discovery)
  • UDDI

10
Toolkits
  • You often dont deal with SOAP directly

OpenEdge
Platform2
.NET
Platform1
SOAPMessage
Toolkit2
Toolkit1
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SOAPs Extensibility Model
Envelope
Header
Extension
Body
My Data
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SOAPs Extensibility Model
Envelope
Header
Decryption Info
Weather
Mandatory!
Body
Encrypted Data
13
WSDL Design-Time Metadata
  • I use these data types
  • You send me this, and Ill send you that
  • Im reachable via SOAP at http//...
  • I need you to use these extensions
  • My phone is....

14
So Did It Work?
  • Kind of
  • Big players all on board!
  • Lots of XML interop, HTTP connectivity
  • But...
  • Not all specs developed together
  • Early specs unclear, proprietary
  • Early implementations didnt always work together

15
Paths To Interop
  • Standards
  • Grassroots (SOAPBuilders)
  • Interop summits workshops
  • WS-I

16
What are Standards Anyway?
  • The wonderful thing about standards...
  • is that there are so many to choose from!
  • --unattributed

17
Web Services Standards Bodies
  • IETF (protocols, HTTP, TCP, DNS)
  • W3C (XML, HTML, SOAP, WSDL)
  • OASIS (ebXML, WS-Security, extensions)
  • WS-I (Profiles)
  • others...

18
Do Standards Help?
  • YES, but...
  • We dont always get it right the first time
  • Some standards are unclear
  • Some standards die on the vine (WS-Routing)
  • Be careful about choosing
  • Whos behind it (wide acceptance)
  • IP concerns
  • Technology quality
  • Make sure its fully baked

19
SOAPBuilders
  • Yahoo group to promote testing and interop for
    SOAP developers
  • Grassroots organization
  • Several rounds of testing, both online and
    face-to-face interops
  • Lots of work done fast. First RPC services, then
    WSDL, then doc/lit...
  • More than 30 stacks participate (has yours?)

20
Developer Get-togethers Are Great
  • SOAPBuilders
  • Microsoft / IBM
  • WS- (Security, ReliableMessaging, etc)
  • W3C
  • SOAP 1.2 (2002)
  • WSDL 2.0 (2004)
  • Help find problems in specs as well as problems
    in implementations
  • Find problems before the users do!

21
WS-I (Web Services Interop Org)
  • Private consortium ( to join)
  • Profiles, not standards
  • Basic Profile 1.0 out now
  • Test suite w/ sample application
  • Process is a bit heavy/slow
  • Lots of apparent commitment

22
Where Are We Now?
  • Basic stuff works great - lots of interoperable
    SOAP-over-HTTP engines
  • SOAP 1.1, WSDL 1.1, XML Schema
  • Basic types mostly just work
  • Strings, integers, dates, floats, etc.
  • Arrays / collections
  • Security via HTTPS mostly just works
  • WS-I BP? Jury is still out....

23
What Isnt There Yet?
  • Fancy XML, data types arent solid yet
  • .NET DataSet
  • No interoperable Hashtable / Recordset
  • ...or you can use raw XML
  • Extensions arent solid yet
  • Transactions, Reliability
  • Anything but request-response (i.e. async) isnt
    solid yet

24
WS Interoperability Stack Today
  • Transport (HTTP, SMTP, JMS, etc)
  • Syntax (XML)
  • Data (Schema, WSDL)
  • Protocol (SOAP, WS- extensions)
  • Semantics (WSDL extensions, Policy, RDF)

25
The Stack is Coming Together
  • Functional choices for high-level stuff within a
    year or two
  • But....
  • Be careful of spec silos...

26
Interoperability vs. Extensibility
  • If everyone did the same exact things...
  • Wouldnt it all just work?
  • Sure, until you need something else...
  • Then you have to go rebuild everything again!
  • Extensibility allows agility and new developments
    in your current framework...
  • but at a cost. If youre using a brand new
    extension you might not be interoperable with
    too many other folks unless they catch up
  • This is a key tradeoff

27
The Answer...?
  • Balance interop with extensibility
  • Future-proof toolkits with pluggable
    architecture
  • This doesnt mean you have to do it all yourself,
    just that your vendor can give you plugins
    without a whole new infrastructure

28
Lessons Learned, and Dreams Grounded
  • Were not there yet
  • The technology has some great potential
  • A lot works now, but more later
  • Balance interop and extensibility
  • In the meanwhile...

29
How Progress/Sonic Gets You There
  • We track this stuff
  • We participate in the design of this stuff
  • We are committed to building this stuff
  • and making it easy for you to use
  • Integration is our world
  • Still going to need integration to deal with
    impedance mismatches

30
In Summary
  • Web Services are about interoperability
  • Basic stuff works today
  • OpenEdge 10
  • ESB
  • More coming down the line

31
Related Courses
  • The following Progress courses cover related
    subject matter.  Please visit www.progress.com/edu
    cation for course descriptions and relevant
    curriculum maps.
  • XML Essentials
  • 4GL Development with XML
  • Consuming Web Services from OpenEdge

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