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Title: Socrates and Plato


1
Socrates and Plato
  • Socrates uses reason to find moral reality
  • Same rationalist assumptions
  • One, unchanging, knowable, rational, real
  • Plus Knowledge ? virtue
  • Death at the hands of democracy
  • Becomes the hero of Plato's dialogues
  • Dies ignorant--method ?doubt no solution
  • Hard to prove a contradiction from moral premises
  • Plato combines with Parmenides rationalism
  • Ultimate reality is value/meaning (definition)
  • Intellectual reality idealism (optimism and
    ideas)

2
Define PhilosophySemantics
  • Basis of all knowledge
  • Needed to know the truth of sentences
  • Because needed to know meaning?
  • Vicious circle--must be some we learn without
  • In fact most are learned without definitions
  • But important to logic (Geometry)
  • Allows logical analysis, reveals structure of
    arguments
  • Realityconcepts, meanings, Ideos, Forms
  • One, unchanging, knowable, rationalreal
  • Sense experience is unreal, belief, change etc.

3
Working with Definitions
  • Rules to ensure we get the right kind
  • No lists, vagueness, circularity (synonym)
  • Must give an analysis species and difference
  • Biology model of scientific knowledge
    (classification)
  • No hearsay (only expert insight) test by reason
  • Real v nominal definitions
  • Things real naturewhat makes it of that kind
  • Shared in things of that type.
  • Result Theory of Forms
  • The ultimate reality (metaphysics) distinguishes
    knowledge from belief, meaning/logic, value

4
Questions
  • Give a formal analysis of the Analects ??
    argument for the social-political importance of
    rectifying names ??. Is it valid? Is it sound?
    Explain why or why not.
  • Coffee Tutorial today at 1 pm

5
Difficulty Famous Analogies
  • Cave sensible appearance v reality
  • C.f. taking hallucinatory drugs
  • Meditation or rational insight
  • Analogy shadow/object as object/form
  • Equal difficulty in getting you to accept them
  • When you "see" them, you will need no more
    convincing
  • The character of the object determines your
    knowledge

6
Line Analogy
  • Links metaphysics and epistemology
  • Knowability depends on nature of object
    (Parmenides)
  • Rival view true belief plus an account (the
    modern analysis)
  • X knows that P df.
  • P is true
  • X believes that P
  • X has justification for believing that P

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The Sun Analogy
  • Rule for identification of forms
  • Logic there must be a form of forms
  • More real than the forms
  • The form of the good of all value
  • Form of the truth/beauty/good
  • Mystical ResultAbsolute one/being
  • No mental grasp
  • It would blind us (our intuition)
  • But necessarily there
  • (or nothing exists)

9
Key Political Doctrines
  • The Republic a political plan
  • Justice in political structure in individual
  • Rule of the correct rulerintellect
  • The Philosopher King
  • Anti-democratic and manipulative
  • Education and classes
  • Social ranks intellectual, spirited, body-like

10
End Plato Greek Rationalism
  • Ancient Chinese idealism next!

11
On To China!
  • Same approximate time
  • Axial age hypothesis because of lack of contact
  • Socrates, Buddha, Confucius
  • Contrast
  • First philosopher the most famous
  • Starts out with politics and ethics
  • Geography and Shang Culture
  • Navigation v landlocked agriculture
  • Geometry v cycles

12
Chinas Uniqueness
  • Non-Indic religious base
  • No immortal soul but spirit ??
  • No creation God or anthropomorphism
  • Oldest continuous religionancestor veneration
  • Political organization first
  • Shang society and Zhou nature ?
  • Social religion and Emperor on High
  • Oracle bones and conquest
  • Beginning of deliberate history

13
Mandate of ?tiannaturesky
  • Duke of Zhou political justification
  • Moral divine right of kings
  • With right to revolution built in
  • Mandate/duty ? to rule/care for ??
  • Society in nature
  • Lost when fails or loses? devirtuosity
  • Mandate goes to another
  • Revolution and success (rain, luck, etc.) sign of
    ? ? tians selection

14
Confucius
  • Traditional political view
  • Controversy education first
  • Dreams of Duke of Zhou ??
  • ? tiannaturesky names (?mingdestiny) the ruler
  • Moral merit ? not pure religion
  • Is?God? (Like Western "divine right of kings")
  • ? ? was anthropomorphic ancestor
  • Place of dead spirits above
  • ? Tian also above, but only destins things

15
? Tiannaturesky Natural Process?
  • Organic" or anthropological authority (?)
  • Constant patterns
  • Corrupting power of evil
  • Confucius minimally religious but starts a
    philosophical process
  • Agnostic about spirits and afterlife
  • Little talk about ? tiannaturesky (??)
  • Natural moral social/political hierarchy--not
    hereditary

16
Purpose Of Hierarchical Society
  • Naturalist realist
  • We could add premises (evolution)
  • Moral education, not institutions
  • No legislature, bureaus or courts
  • Education by models
  • Like father in the family
  • Ruler responsible for our moral character
  • No law
  • Motivation and linguistic arguments

17
Penal Codes Publish Punishments
  • Not a list of general commands
  • (universal sentences creating legal duties)
  • Thought of as naming the punishments
  • Then specifying when to use them
  • Texts call them ? xingpunishments

18
Confucius' Argument Against Law
  • Lead them with ?zhengcoercion, order them with ?
    xingpunishment, the people will avoid
    wrongdoing? but will have no shame. Lead them
    with ? devirtuosity and order them with?liritual
    and they will have shame and learn to fit in.
    (23)

19
Psychological and Interpretive Grounds
  • Psychological argument Human sociability and
    weak selfishness
  • ?li ritual exercises the natural impulse to
    conform to social expectations
  • Interpretive argument public codes invite
    disputation and encourage people to be
    argumentative
  • "In litigation, I am as the others are, but the
    point is to eliminate litigation"

20
Human Nature
  • Natural social animals that have traditions
  • Language and ritual ?liritual
  • Conventions df. Shared coordination patterns
    that persist because cooperation is more
    important than alternative actions
  • Confucius' ethics seem conventional
  • ?liritual for training morality
  • Transmitter not a creator

21
Philosophical Content
  • ?? zheng-mingrectify names
  • Father-ruler example conflict of rules
  • Abortion case
  • Never kill an innocent person
  • A fetus is an innocent person
  • A fetus is not yet a person
  • Never kill a fetus
  • Intuition about instance helps us rectify names
  • Judgment about abortion
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