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Title: Debate 1: Religious Freedom vs. National Sovereignty


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Debate 1 Religious Freedom vs. National
Sovereignty
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
2
Debate 1 In the historical context of Silence,
Catholic missionaries should not reenter Japan.
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
3
Debate 2Faithful Death vs. Excusable Apostasy
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
4
Debate 2 The apostasy of the Japanese Christians
is excusable because of the persecution.
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
5
Debate 3 Apostate Paul (p.174) or Rodrigues
the Faithful
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
6
Debate 3 Father Rodrigues is faithful to the
faith of the Catholic church in spite of his
apostasy.
Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
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Debate 1 Religious Freedom vs. National
Sovereignty p.88
  • Father sometimes courage only causes trouble for
    other people. We call that blind courage. And
    many of the priests, fanatically filled with this
    blind courage...
  • If you force on people things that they dont
    want, they are inclined to say Thanks for
    nothing! And Christian doctrine is something
    like that here. We have our own religion we
    dont want a new, foreign one. I myself learned
    Christian doctrine in the seminary, but I tell
    you I dont think it ought to be introduced into
    this country.
  • Your and my way of thinking are different, said
    the priest quietly dropping his voice. if they
    were the same I would not have crossed the sea
    from far away to come to this country.

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Debate 2Faithful Death vs. Excusable Apostasy
  • Father, if we are ordered to trample on the
    fumie ... Mokichi head hanging, mumbled...
  • I thrust form my mind the memory of how Father
    Gabriel... cried out, I had rather this foot cut
    off than that I should trample on this image. I
    know that many Japanese Christians and fathers
    have manifested such feelings when the holy
    picture was brought before their feet. But was it
    possible to demand this from these three
    unfortunate men?
  • Trample! Trample! I shouted. But immediately I
    realized that I has uttered words that should
    never have been on my lips.

9
Debate 3 Apostate Paul (p.174) or Rodrigues
the Faithful
  • The priest raises his foot. In it he feels a
    dull, heavy pain. This is no mere formality. He
    will now trample on what he has considered the
    most beautiful thing in his life, on what he has
    believed most pure, on what is filled with the
    ideals and the dreams of man. How his foot aches!
    And then the Christ in bronze speaks to the
    priest Trample! Trample! I more than anyone
    know of the pain in your foot. Trample! It was to
    be trampled on by men that I was born into this
    world. It was to be trampled on by men that I was
    born into this world. It was to share mens pain
    that I carried my cross. (p.171)
  • I fell. But, Lord, you alone know that I did not
    renounce my faith. The clergy will ask themselves
    why I fell. Was it because the torture of the pit
    was unendurable? Yes... (p.175)
  • No doubt his fellow priests would condemn his
    act as sacrilege but even if he was betraying
    them, he was not betraying his Lord. He loved him
    now in a different way from before... (p.191)

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First Debate
  • Thesis

Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
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Second Debate
  • Thesis

Pros Before After
Cons
Neutral
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