Title: Assessor seminar feedback
1Topics
- Assessor seminar feedback
- Laboratory feedback
- Sampling of tests for assessment
- New/revised requirements of 17025
- Statistics on non-conformities
- Empirical in-house methods
2Feedback - last assessor seminar
- Fulfilling assessors need and expectation
- Duration
- Gain from the seminar
3Feedback - last assessor seminar
- 127(110) assessors attended
- 84(48) evaluation forms returned
- Fulfilling assessors need and expectation
- 0 (0) not really, 23 (31) adequately, 57 (65)
well, 20 (4) very well - Duration
- 0 (0) too long, 96 (98) suitable, 4 (2) too
short
4Feedback - gain
- 112 comments received
- Grading of non-conformities (9)
- Views and experience of assessors (17)
- Latest development of HKAS (24)
- Technical issues, eg PT, MU, etc (6)
5Feedback suggestions on future activities
- 24 suggestions received
- More assessor workshops
- Longer discussion
- More technical seminars
6Laboratory Feedback
- September 2005
- All accredited organisations
- Accredited labs 128
- Return (labs) 55 43
7Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- Substantially relaxed 0
- Slightly relaxed 29.5
- Remained unchanged 67.2
- Slightly tightened 3.3
- Substantially tightened 0
8Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- Depending on the availability of technology
available in the market, some equipment,
specifications or requirements stated in testing
standard that cannot be fulfilled should be duly
accepted. Surely it can be reviewed again per the
advancement of technology.
9Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- More flexibility to be given for quoting
accreditation to a standard with modification for
those modified method verified with same level of
performance characteristics.
10Response
11Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- Consistency on technical/quality requirements
between different assessors should be aligned. - Sometimes, the corrective actions taken for
non-conformities raised in the previous
assessment may not be accepted in the next
assessment.
12Response
13Response
14Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- It can help to maintain lab standard.
- I like officer be tighten on the quality system.
15Laboratory Feedback- Degree of rigor
- It seems that the assessment is too concentrated
on minor points rather than major issues.
16Response
17ISO/IEC 170252005
- Published on 15 May 2005
- 8th edition of HOKLAS 003 published in October
2005 - Full implementation by 15 May 2007 by accredited
laboratories - No extra assessment to be conducted
- Amendment mainly on Section 4 (Management
requirements)
18HOKLAS 003 8th edition
- Section 1 Introduction - Updated
- Section 2 Normative references New
- Section 3 Terms and definitions New
- Sections 4 5 revised as per ISO/IEC
170252005 - Section 5 Technical requirements only two
revised/new clauses
19Section 5 HOKLAS 003 8th edition
- Clause 5.2.2 Personnel
- . The effectiveness of the training actions
taken shall be evaluated. - Clause 5.9.2 Assuring the quality of test and
calibration results - Quality control data shall be analysed and, where
they are found to be outside pre-defined
criteria, planned action shall be taken to
correct the problem and to prevent incorrect
results from being reported..
20HOKLAS 003 8th edition
- Section 1 Introduction
- Compliance with regulatory and safety
requirements on the operation of laboratories is
not covered by this International Standard. - Section 5.3.H
- It should be emphasized that it is the
responsibility of the laboratory to ensure that
its operation is in compliance with all
applicable regulations, particularly those
related to laboratory safety.
21HOKLAS 003 8th edition
- Section 4.9.H Control of nonconforming testing
and/or calibration work - Examples
- environmental conditions exceeded limits
- duration of conditioning of test specimens not
complying with specifications - max. holding times of samples exceeded
- tests performed using instruments with expired
calibration - QC acceptance limits exceeded
- performance in PT unsatisfactory
22HOKLAS 003 8th edition
- Section 4.13.H Control of records
- The retention period of at least 3 yrs for
equipment records and lab. operation procedures
shall be counted from the date on which the use
of the equipment or the operation procedures have
been discontinued respectively. Similarly, the
retention period of at least 3 yrs for personnel
records shall be counted from the date of
departure of the staff member concerned.
23Sampling of tests for assessment
- ISO/IEC 170112004
- Conformity assessment
- General requirements for accreditation bodies
accrediting conformity assessment bodies
24Sampling of tests for assessment
- Cl. 7.5.6 Preparation for assessment
- The accreditation body shall establish procedures
for sampling (if applicable) where the scope of
the CAB covers a variety of specific conformity
assessment services. The procedures shall ensure
that the assessment team witness a representative
number of examples to ensure proper evaluation of
the competence of the CAB
25Sampling of tests for assessment
- Cl. 7.6.1 Document and record review
- The assessment team shall review all relevant
documents and records supplied by the CAB to
evaluate its system, as documented, for
conformity with the relevant standard(s) and
other requirements for accreditation - Cl. 7.7.3 On-site assessment
- The assessment team shall witness the performance
of a representative number of staff of the CAB to
provide assurance of the competence of the CAB
across the scope of accreditation.
26Sampling of tests for assessment
- HKAS Management Manual App 9.4A5
- Emphasis should be given to new activities to be
accredited and activities and aspects which are
known to be problematic, e.g. activities with
poor proficiency testing results or performed in
accordance with standards which are known to have
different interpretations, subjects of
complaints, aspects where many non-conformities
were identified in previous assessments, etc.
27Sampling of tests for assessment
- HKAS 008 Guide for HKAS Assessors and Lead
Assessors Clause 7.3.1 Observing of the
Organisations Practice - The assessment team should witness some or all of
the tests within the scope of accreditation. - Even if a particular test is too lengthy to be
performed in its entirety during the visit, it
should be possible for at least the most critical
phases of the test to be performedDepending
upon the circumstances, samples or specimens used
in such tests may be conveniently drawn from
the normal work throughput or provided by a
member of the assessment team through arrangement
with the team leader.
28Sampling of tests for assessment
- Difficult to have hard and fast rules
- Random sampling is not the most appropriate
- Priority for those not assessed before
- At least select a representative test in each
test area
29Sampling of tests for assessment
- Like driving test select those that need
special skills and knowledge - Like an examination, select those tests which are
most indicative of labs competence - Like cooking class, if the test is solely for
demonstration purpose, skip those non-critical
steps - More than one test can be performed at a time
- Prior arrangement with the lab is helpful
30Laboratory internal validation and verification
Laboratory requirement Verification
(Secondary validation) Validation Validatio
n Validation (Primary validation)
Existing information Fully validated standard
methods (have been studied in a collaborative
trail) Standard methods amplifications and
modifications e.g. new instrument Standard
methods outside their intended
scope Laboratory developed and non-standard
methods
31Definition
- Validation is the confirmation, through provision
of objective evidence, that the particular
requirements for a specific intended use or
application have been fulfilled (ISO/IEC 17025
clause 5.4.5.1 and ISO 90002000) - Verification is the confirmation, through
provision of objective evidence, that specified
requirements have been fulfilled. (ISO 90002000) - Objective evidence is data supporting the
existence or verity of something (ISO90002000)
32Standard methods shall be verified for
- 1. Procedures conformity with the standard
method - 2. Availability and suitability of equipment and
reference materials/standard, reagents, etc - 3. Appropriateness of environmental conditions
- 4. Competence of testing staff
- 5. Capability of lab of achieving the defined
method performance characteristics
33Main validation parameters
- Applicability
- Selectivity
- Calibration and linearity
- Trueness
- Precision
34Main validation parameters
- Recovery
- Working concentration and measurement range
- Limit of Detection (LOD) and Quantitation (LoQ)
- Matrix variation
- Measurement Uncertainty
35Common insufficiencies
- 1. Method bias not established or demonstrated
- 2. Precision data derived from short term
results and do not cover major variations - 3. Detection limits wrongly determined
- 4. Major components omitted in measurement
uncertainty estimation
36Empirical Methods
- Definition the quantity estimated is simply the
result found on following the stated
procedure.Hence, method bias is zero and matrix
variation is irrelevant. However, laboratory bias
need to be assessed. Apart from these, method
validation similar to other rational methods.
Empirical methods are often defined by standard
methods or legislation.
37In-house Methods
- Definition methods other than standard methods
and which are designed/developed by the
laboratory. - Full method validation required
38In-house Empirical Methods
- For some measurands (analytes), their values are
defined by the procedure used, which may be given
in standard methods, in legislation or by users
of testing service. Many commonly encountered
measurands determined by empirical methods have
established meanings, e.g. BOD, COD, SS, VS, etc.
39In-house Empirical Methods
- For these measurands, in-house empirical methods
need to show comparability with the those defined
in well recognised standard methods. - Very often, in-house empirical methods are
modified standard methods. Ensure the
modifications do not affect the values obtained,
based on professional judgement and validation
data (e.g. CRM, PT, comparison with relevant
standard methods, etc.).
40In-house Empirical Methods
- May need to define the measurands or give key
experimental conditions in test reports, e.g.
extraction conditions for metals (temperature,
duration, acid strength, etc.), drying
temperature of suspended solids, etc. - Customer specified in-house empirical methods
precision need to be demonstrated