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Title: Science, Salt Water, Submarines and Symbiosis


1
Science, Salt Water, Submarines and Symbiosis
Knowledge for Development Seminar, Center for
International Development Kennedy School of
Government, Harvard University November 6, 2003
  • Doing RD with the Navy
  • Robert A. Frosch
  • Part II Practice
  • Nov 6, 2003

2
Submarine Warfare in WWII
  • Sonar
  • Periscope detecting Radar
  • HF/DF and Doenitz mistake
  • A close shave anyway

3
The Navys Worries after WWII
  • Won the submarine war, but close!
  • Late German submarine developments (eg
    snorkeling) very worrisome
  • What will nuclear submarines mean?
  • What will the Soviets do?
  • Will there be true, quiet submarines?
  • How can we deal with this?

4
Underwater Sound during and after WWII
  • Afternoon effect, the bathythermograph (BT)...
  • Ewing and Worzel, GSA Mem. 27
  • Long range very low frequency underwater sound (
    0 -3 octaves below A 440)
  • REALLY long range 6 lb TNT 3000mi
  • probably (later confirmed) gt10,000 mi
  • Wartime research by cooperation

5
  • In July 1943 Ewing wrote...to the Bureau of
    Ships, Navy Department, proposing this long-range
    transmission as a system of communications. In
    January 1944 the Underwater Design Section of the
    Bureau of Ships approved tests . by the Woods
    Hole Oceanographic Institution and the US Navy
    Underwater Sound Laboratory at New London, Conn,
    the USS Saluda and the SC 665 were assigned for
    these experiments. The services of.and most of
    theequipment were lent by the Naval Ordnance
    Laboratory, and the remaining equipment was
    assembled at Woods Hole. The operational
    arrangements were made by the US Navy Underwater
    Sound Laboratory. The ships arrived on station
    ready to work on March 22, 1944. - Ewing, M.,
    GSA Mem. 27, p. 3

6
Underwater sound (contd)
  • Convergence zones
  • SOFAR, LOFAR, etc
  • Ted Hunt and an ocean an hour
  • ambient noise
  • wind, waves
  • animals
  • ships

7
The Navys Response to its Worries
  • Science and ONR
  • SOSUS (Project Jezebel)
  • Project Julie (made passive buoys active)
  • Hartwell Report
  • Hudson Labs (Project Michael) (Pupin)
  • Do the oceanographic science of low frequency
    underwater sound for anti-submarine warfare.

8
The ONR way of Science I
  • Nature, to be commanded, must be obeyed.
  • Roger Bacon, Novum Organum, 1620
  • Weve got questions you figure out what science
    to do, and how.
  • Program officers as (rotating) peers
  • Experienced, educated, Naval Officers
  • Scientists comfortable with the Navy
  • some were recent ex-naval officers

9
The ONR way of Science II
  • The investigators Club
  • The relaxed were all in this together style
  • Creating an epistemic community!
  • Mutual acculturation
  • Mix and match (in the same room, or ship)
  • Naval officer experience
  • University research (SIO, WHOI, MIT)
  • Navy lab research (NRL, USL, NEL, DTMB)
  • Industrial contractor research (BTL, Raytheon)
  • FFRDCs (Draper, IDA) and Private consultants

10
The ONR way of Science III
  • Hey, I was talking to.,who has an interesting
    idea, would you call him/her?
  • Advisory oversight
  • Hudson The Brooks Committee
  • Ad hoc committees for particular purposes
  • Informal peer visits, sometimes with ONR staff
  • NRAC
  • NAS/NRC The Undersea Warfare Committee
  • (later the Naval Studies Board)

11
Hudson Labs Experiences I
  • Theoretical Prediction Ray tracing to guide
    SOSUS
  • for BTL, Western Electric
  • Coherence of U/W sound in the ocean
  • How long can an array be at low frequency?
  • (gt 1500 mi., Eleuthera to Sable Island)
  • Where does ambient noise come from?
  • Whats its spectrum? Its angular distribution?

12
Hudson Labs Experiences II
  • Will internal waves interfere with sound?
  • What can be done in shallow water?
  • Can you build an active version that will get
    echoes at 100mi? (Third convergence zone)
  • Project Artemis (Roman goddess of the hunt)
  • (Project Diana was taken)
  • Can you come to DC Thu? Were getting some guys
    together to talk about

13
Hudson Labs Experiences III
  • USS Alleghany (ATA 179)
  • Lt (SG) Queeg commanding
  • Project Medea (1955)
  • 5 Ships Mix and match in the Norwegian Sea
  • USNS J. Willard Gibbs
  • The Undersea Warfare RD Planning Council
  • Mix and match
  • Search for the SSN Thresher

14
Another DoD Example ARPA
  • We cant do it for everything, but if someone
    calls a program officer before noon with a great
    new idea, we can usually get them authorization
    to start spending money on the idea by the close
    of business the same day.
  • Bernie Korenblit
  • ARPA Procurement Officer

15
And, as ASNRD
  • Working with the Admiralty
  • Intra-service rivalries
  • Inter-service rivalries
  • Working with DDRE Staff
  • AsstSecDef for Systems Analysis Staff
  • Gordon Hamilton and the loss of SSN Scorpion
  • Alvin and Palomares
  • The weekly RD luncheon
  • The tale of the three mathematicians
  • Does everyone need to know what their work can be
    used for?

16
Finally
  • Hudson Labs, ARPA, ASNRD, NASA, GM
  • Success in making science work for a customers
    purposes always has the same name
  • SYMBIOSIS

17
Symbiosis Some Ingredients
  • Reasonable mutual respect
  • scientists and customers -gt
  • Conversation -gt Mutual acculturation -gt
  • A reasonably clear agreed-upon purpose -gt
  • A working community a club

18
Symbiosis More Ingredients
  • Facilities and appropriate for task
  • May be a lot, or not
  • Enough, but not too much, bureaucratic support
  • External advisory/oversight system
  • And always LISTEN!
  • But be careful to think about what you hear
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