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Title: Where Do Prices Come From


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Where Do Prices Come From?
  • Jim Sartwelle, III
  • Extension Economist
  • Department of Agricultural Economics
  • Texas AM University
  • February 25, 2003

2
Outline
  • Where do prices come from?
  • How do you form a market outlook all your own?
  • Raising vs buying replacement females
  • How can you tell if your operation is really
    making money?
  • Calculating a breakeven for a cow-calf herd

3
Where do prices come from?
  • Short answer supply and demand
  • Long answer it depends what price youre
    concerned with
  • Beef prices
  • Fed cattle prices
  • Feeder cattle prices
  • Weaned calf/stocker prices

4
Derived demand
  • the demand for factors of production that exists
    because of the demand for the product the factors
    produce
  • Since calves, feeder cattle, and fed cattle are
    NOT end products, we have to step deeper to
    determine what influences their prices

5
How are prices determined?
  • Cattle price f (Quantity of cattle/beef
    produced, quantity of competing meats, quantity
    of feed available, disposable income, consumer
    tastes and preferences)
  • As you can see, this is no simple proposition,
    but the market tends to handle it.

6
Blueprint for Developing Your Own Market Outlook
  • James D. Sartwelle, III
  • Extension Economist, Risk Management
  • Texas AM University

7
Market OutlookWhat Is It?
  • Market outlook is your expectation of where a
    particular commodity market is headed
  • It can be developed in as many different ways as
    there are different people

8
How Many Different Easy Ways Are There?
  • Use someone elses forecast
  • Use the futures markets
  • Ignore things and hope for the best
  • The last strategy is unfortunately used far too
    often by cattlemen

9
There Are No Easy Ways
  • Being a good marketer of cattle requires many of
    the same elements of being a good producer of
    cattle
  • Persistent monitoring of changing conditions
  • Staying abreast of new technologies and
    strategies
  • Not putting your head in the sand when things
    start heading south on you

10
Determine the Time Frame
  • Actual and expected beef production levels and
    production of competing meats drive cattle prices
    in the short term
  • Those numbers, plus expectations of consumer
    income and changing dietary preferences, drive
    cattle prices in the longer term

11
What Decision Are You Trying to Make?
  • Do I sell my calves this week or next?
  • Should I consider retaining ownership on part of
    my calf crop thatll be weaned this fall?
  • What year is the cattle cycle going to turn on us
    again?

12
Follow the Leaders
  • Leading indicators Information that might tip
    market movements
  • Short-term indicators
  • Longer-term indicators
  • Sources of this information
  • USDA (www.ams.usda.gov)
  • Private sources

13
What to Track First?
  • Total inventory numbers
  • USDA tracks cattle numbers all over the country
    and releases inventory
  • Feedyard numbers
  • Important to track because theyre the best
    indicators of future beef supply out there
  • Meat production numbers
  • Follow both numbers of cattle slaughtered and
    carcass weights

14
Cattle Inventory Reports
  • Issued in late January and mid July
  • Longer-term barometer
  • Cattle cycle where are we?
  • Look deeper into the numbers to determine not
    only whether the cyclical phase is liquidation or
    expansion, but how quickly were likely to get
    there

15
What Are the Indicators in the Inventory Report?
  • Total numbers of cattle, beef cows, and calf crop
  • Are we expanding or liquidating the herd?
  • Beef replacement heifers
  • Are we keeping more or fewer heifers back?
  • Gauge of whether were gearing up to expand total
    herd size or not

16
Cattle on Feed Reports
  • Usually released the third Friday of the month
  • State-by-state information on feedyard
    inventories and placements and marketings from
    the previous month
  • Indicator of how many cattle are likely to come
    off feed in the next 5 or 6 months

17
What Are the Indicators in the Cattle on Feed
Report?
  • Shows where you are in relation to history in
    terms of total feedyard numbers
  • Placement info yields insight into whether or not
    more beef or less beef will be produced in the
    coming months relative to the previous year
  • Marketings indicate whether cattle are being
    moved from the yard to the packer in a timely
    fashion (currentness)

18
Monthly Slaughter Reports
  • Need to know the rate at which cattle get turned
    into beef
  • When beef supplies go up, normally beef prices go
    down
  • When beef prices go down, normally fed cattle
    prices get bid down, too
  • Knowing cattle numbers is important knowing beef
    weight is vital

19
What Are the Indicators in the Monthly Slaughter
Report?
  • Total meat production (beef, veal, pork, and
    lamb) for the previous month
  • Meat production relative to history
  • Is there a glut or undersupply of beef?
  • Whats going on with pork?

20
Weekly Slaughter Reports
  • Released each Friday, they show how many head of
    cattle, hogs, and lambs were processed the
    previous week
  • Estimates of total weekly meat production
  • Percent of females in the beef kill mix
  • Carcass weights
  • Very important report for projecting near term
    fed cattle prices

21
What Are the Indicators in the Weekly Slaughter
Report?
  • Percent of females in slaughter mix
  • Important indicator of short-term expansion or
    liquidation
  • Percent of heifers and beef cows greater than
    45, generally a good indicator of liquidation

22
What Are the Indicators in the Weekly Slaughter
Report?
  • Carcass weight
  • Just as important than actual number slaughtered
  • High carcass weights can be an indicator that
    feedlots are not staying current
  • High carcass weights can mitigate the positive
    effects of a smaller herd size

23
What to Track Next?
  • Competing meats production
  • Affects beef demand in the future
  • Grain prices and grazing availability
  • Fed cattle prices f (feeder price, corn price)
  • Feeder stocker cattle prices f (calf prices,
    grain prices/grazing available)

24
What Next?
  • Youve spent a limited amount of time staying
    current on national market trends
  • You have to stay abreast of market movements for
    the relevant commodity
  • The previous work is no good if you cant time
    your marketing decisions

25
Access to Local Market Information
  • USDA reports weekly prices for 20 Texas livestock
    auctions and 3 electronic auctions
  • USDA reports direct feeder cattle sales weekly
    and fed cattle sales daily
  • Follow the futures markets, too

26
Keeping Your Head in the Game
  • You have to follow your local markets regularly
  • Lets face it most all of us are price takers,
    but we have nearly complete control over when we
    market our cattle
  • There is no excuse for not constantly monitoring
    local price trends
  • Be careful which prices you watch

27
Ok, One More Time
  • Cattle Inventory Reports
  • Give us a snapshot of where we are in the cycle
  • Cattle on Feed Reports
  • Give us an idea of how beef production is likely
    to look for several months
  • Slaughter Reports
  • Fine tuning our beef production forecast and
    seeing how female slaughter is going

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Ok, One More Time contd
  • Grain prices and pasture quality
  • Got to know how cost of production is likely to
    look for the next guy who owns our cattle
  • Local market prices
  • Have to constantly be checking for local
    marketing opportunities
  • Income levels, changes in dietary tastes and
    preferences

29
Do I Have the Time to Do This?
  • Spend an hour twice a year interpreting the
    semi-annual Cattle Inventory report
  • Invest a half-hour once a month digesting the
    Cattle on Feed and monthly Livestock Slaughter
    reports
  • Spend 15-20 minutes a week taking in the local
    market and weekly slaughter reports
  • Keep up with moves in the grain/grazing markets
  • Can I really afford not to do this?

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Jim Sartwelle, III Extension Economist, Risk
Management Texas AM University
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