Title: This Whole College Application Thing
1This Whole College Application Thing
- Chip Saltsman
- Vice-President, Capgemini
- MIT Alumni Interviewer
- Parent
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3Career Profile
- She was always fascinated by dead animals
- Graduated from Fallston High School
- Bachelors Degree in Anthropology at Towson
- Worked as a CSI for 9 years
- Went back to school for Masters and Doctorate
- Now a professor at Towson in Forensics
- Wrote the book Never Suck a Dead Mans Hand
4Career Profile Dana Kollmann
- She was always fascinated by dead animals
- Graduated from Fallston High School
- Bachelors Degree in Anthropology at Towson
- Worked as a CSI for 9 years
- Went back to school for Masters and Doctorate
- Now a professor at Towson in Forensics
- Wrote the book Never Suck a Dead Mans Hand
5More education means more earning power
Source College Board, Education Pays, 2004
6College lifetime payoff
- (US Census Bureau Day and Newburger study, 2002).
7The value isnt just money
- Longer life-span
- Greater economic stability and security
- More prestigious employment and greater job
satisfaction - Less dependency on government assistance
- Greater participation in leisure and artistic
activities - Greater community service and leadership
- The self-respect you get from your achievements
- Broad base of knowledge on which to build and
solve more of lifes problems. - Much of what you gain in college comes from
learning outside the classroom, from
participating in clubs, campus organizations and
test-driving careers through internships and
practicums. - With some jobs, a degree is a requirement. For
other it is a check mark and door opener. - It is a ticket to compete that puts you in the
running for a better futurebut it isnt a
guarantee. Everything else is up to you. - For a lot of people, it isnt the destination,
its the journey!
8Words to know
- Associate Degree (AA, AS, AAT) Two-year degree
program - Bachelors Degree (BA, BS) Four-year degree
- A Credit one hour of class two hours of
other work - FAFSA Free Application for Federal Student Aid
9Chips Top Ten Rules . . .
1010. There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you
out there!
11Narrowing Down the List
- Location
- Setting Urban/Suburban/Rural
- Size
- Diversity
- Activities Sports
- Majors Academic Programs
- Admissions Selectivity Degree of Difficulty
How much do you want to challenge yourself? - Cost
- Other specialization
12Narrowing Down the List
- www.collegeboard.com and use College Matchmaker
tool. - www.princetonreview.com
- Guidance office reference tools
- Library reference books
- www.kiplinger.com/tools/college - Best values in
Public Colleges - Just type college search into Google
(40,000,000 hits)
13Popular Maryland Four-Year Schools
14Popular Out-of-State Schools
159. They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
16The key rule . . .
- There is no magical combination of attributes
that will ensure acceptance to any college.
17Were looking for kids who have pursued their
passion, whatever it is, and have become very
good at it while theyve been top-notch students.
There are an awful lot of kids across the
country that fit that outstanding profileone in
nine are accepted. --Martha Homer, Harvard
Senior Admissions Officer
95 of last years 11,300 applicants were
qualified on paper to join the freshman class of
1,000. We are looking for students who are
self-motivated, who are willing to take risks,
who are willing to risk their ego and who are OK
with being wrong. We want the nerdy, very
un-cool kids who live full industrial strength
for their interests and have a passionate
curiosity. --MIT Dean of Admissions
18What are they actually looking for, anyway?
- The Wesleyan checklist (each application is
reviewed three times) - Can they do the work?
- Class rank
- They read the essays
- SAT scores as an indicator
- Stand out in two extracurricular activities
- The track record of other students from your high
school - Are they living up to their potential?
- Do they match, and can they handle the culture at
our school? - Are they interested in us?
19So, how much does the SAT actually matter anyway?
- It is one of 20 things in the whole application
packet. - Some schools dont even look.
- It matters when it is out of synch from the rest
of your story. - Every year, Harvard rejects people with 800s,
and every year, MIT admits people with SATs in
the 500s
208. Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
217. Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
22The Highly Selective Universities
- 7 - Harvard, Juilliard School
- 8 - Yale
- 9 - Princeton, Stanford
- 10 - Columbia , Cooper Union
- 12 - MIT
- 13 - Brown, Dartmouth, Amherst
- 14 - US Naval Academy, US Coast Guard Academy
- 15 - US Military Academy (West Point),
Swarthmore - 16 - University of Pennsylvania, Pomona,
Claremont McKenna - 17 - Cal Tech
- 18 - Middlebury, Georgetown
- 19 - US Air Force Academy, Williams, Bowdoin,
Duke - 20 - Cornell, CUNY York
- 21 - UC Berkeley, USC
- 22 - Washington University (St. Louis), Rice
- 23 - College of the SouthWest
- 24 - Tufts
- Only 2.6 of schools admit less than 25 of
applicants!
23What do these colleges have in common?
- Harvard
- Yale
- Michigan
- United States Naval Academy
- Georgetown
- Eureka College
- Whittier College
- Texas State San Marcos
24The studies show When it comes to long-term
success, 75 of the educational benefit is
determined by the students efforts and
abilities. Some of it comes from the school.
256. Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
26If it is so hard to get in, why on earth apply?
- Contact with people who are exceptionally bright,
motivated, interesting, and who come from diverse
backgrounds. From all over the world. - Academic depth and breadth in your selected
fields - Academic and administrative flexibility.
- Academic challenge and the highest possible
standards. - A professional reputation that opens career paths
and employment opportunities. - To learn self-discipline and time management
skills from having to apply yourself to your
studies. - The self-respect that you will gain from your
achievements. - To be challenged and grow to meet these
challenges. - The chance to be among other students who regard
learning as fun, rather than a chore. - Being taught by professors who actually enjoy
teaching. - The cultural and artistic environment on campus.
- Prestige.
- To get to know another part of the country.
- To avoid the housing and class scheduling
problems typical of large state schools. - Taking freshman classes from Nobel laureates and
well-known authorities in their fields.
275. You can probably pay for it
- Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
28How?!?!?! There is more financial aid than you
think . . .
- Grants
- Loans
- Scholarships
- Scholarships from unlikely places
- FASFA The Expected Family Contribution at
45,000 is zero - Aid
- Go to Community College, then transfer.
- State schools are a LOT less expensive than
private schools.
29Career Profile
- Grew up in Philadelphia.
- Quit high school to help support his family.
- Joined the Navy, worked as a corpsman, finished
his GED. - Went to Temple and majored in Phys. Ed.
- Paid for it with a Football and Track scholarship
30Career Profile Bill Cosby
- Grew up in Philadelphia.
- Quit high school to help support his family.
- Joined the Navy, worked as a corpsman, finished
his GED. - Went to Temple and majored in Phys. Ed.
- Paid for it with a Football and Track scholarship
31Is Community College for you?
- You know where you want to be but need some
training to get there - You want to explore different choices before
settling on a path - You need to cut the cost of a four-year college
degree - Average 4-year private university expenses
30,000 - Average 4-year public university expenses
13,489 - Average 2-year public university expenses
2,361 - You want to sharpen your study skills before
enrolling at a university - You want small classes and personal attention
during your first college years - You want to continue to work at your job while
going to college - You want to live at home
32Timeline Community College (specific to
Catonsville)
- Registration is 1st come, 1st served!
- Fairly straightforward process
- Accuplacer test
- Meet with advisor
- Create your schedule
- You can register up to the day the class starts
- Most classes fill up sign up early to get the
best times for you!
33Fastest Growing Professions 2006-2016 (2-year
Degrees)
- Veterinary Technologists and Technicians (41)
- Physical Therapist Assistants (32)
- Forensic Scientist Technicians (31)
- Dental Hygienists (30)
- Environmental Science and Protection Technicians
(28) - Registered Nurses (24)
- Source US Bureau of Labor Statistics,
Department of Labor
34Associates Degree jobs that pay serious money
- Accounting - 57,020 (average annual income)
- Employment Placement Manager - 42,420 (study
Business/Human Resources) - Registered Nurse - 57,280
- Dental Hygienist - 30.19/hour
- Private Investigator - 33,750 (study Criminal
Justice) - Paralegal - 43,040
- Chef - 34,370 (study Culinary Arts)
- Fashion Designer - 62,610 (best to go to NYC)
- Computer Systems Administrator - 62,130
- Engineering Technician - 49,440
- (source Yahoo Education web page CNN Education
web page)
354. Your parents, relatives and friends all have
opinions. So what?
- You can probably pay for it
- Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
363. This is your Senior Year long-term assignment
- Your parents, relatives and friends all have
opinions. So what? - You can probably pay for it
- Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
37Dos and Donts
- Do
- Get psyched! A bunch of schools really want you!
- Think about your recommendations.
- Look at the programs they have. Understand their
educational philosophy. It isnt a resort. - Get organized. Know the deadlines.
- Dont
- Dont ask, Its December 15. Umm, tell me where
I should apply? - Dont pick safety schools you would never attend!
- Dont get hooked on the one and only school.
- Dont get intimidated!
38Timeline Four-Year College
- Take the SAT (Dec 6 test has Nov 5 registration
deadline) - Note admissions packet deadlines!
- Many schools Jan 1
- Salisbury Jan 15
- College Park Jan 20
- Stevenson (Villa Julie) rolling, Feb 1
- UMBC Feb 1
- Towson Feb 15
- Admissions packet (they are all slightly
different) - Your personal information
- Your essays
- Guidance office forms
- Teacher recommendation forms
- SAT scores forwarded
39About that essay!
The euphemism we use is polished. If you're
paying someone that much money, there shouldnt
be fingerprints. But some essays have that
sheen, that lemony-fresh smell that makes you
wonder. --Parke Muth, Admissions Dean,
University of Virginia on college essay
specialists
- Be honest
- Take a risk
- Write. Re-write. And re-write
- Get a second opinion. And a third.
- Proofread it again
- Dont make the essay too important
The danger lies not in writing bad essays, but
in writing common essaysthe one that admissions
officers will read dozens of. My advice? Ask
your friends what they are writingand then dont
write about that! Scott Anderson, Associate
Director at Mercersburg
402. I have no clue what I want to major in is an
OK place to be!
- This is your Senior Year fall semester project
- Your parents, relatives and friends all have
opinions. So what? - You can probably pay for it
- Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
41Bachelor's Degree Starting
42Fastest Growing Professions 2006-2016 (4-year
Degrees)
- Network Systems/Data Communications 53
- Computer Software Engineers 45
- Personal Financial Advisors 41
- Medical Assistants 35
- Veterinarians 35
- Substance Abuse and Behavioral Disorder
Counselors 34 - Financial Analysts 34
- Mental Health Counselors 30
- Marriage and Family Therapists 30
- Computer Systems Analysts 29
- Database Administrator 29
- Physicians Assistants 27
- Source US Bureau of Labor Statistics,
Department of Labor
43Strong local schools
- Towson top-ranked teachers school, and you can
get a degree in e-business - UMBC one of US News the best values in
education and Newsweek School to Watch - Stevenson (Villa Julie) a Newsweek School to
Watch US News 16 Best Comprehensive - College Park 18 in US News Top Public
Universities, 18 Best Business Program
44Speech Therapy Major
Jay LenoEmerson
45Philosophy Majors
Stephen ColbertNorthwestern(Hampden-Sydney
transfer)
Phil JacksonNBA CoachUniversity of North Dakota
46Political Science Major
Rudi GiulianiManhattan College
47Sociology Majors
Michelle ObamaPrinceton
Barbara MikulskiLoyola (MD)
48Electrical Engineering Majors
Judith ResnikCarnegie Mellon
Amar Bose(Bose Electronics)MIT
49Economics Majors
Donald TrumpUniversity of Pennsylvania
Sam WaltonMissouri
50Telecommunications Major
David LettermanBall State University
51Math AND Physics Major
Rear Admiral Grace Hopper(Computer
Pioneer)Vassar
52Dentistry Major
Thurgood MarshallLincoln University (PA)
53French Literature Major
Brooke ShieldsPrinceton
54Biology Majors
Susan Hockfield (President of MIT)University of
Rochester
Lisa KudrowVassar
55Business Major
Mick JaggerLondon School of Economics
56Literature Major
Jodie FosterYale
57Education Major
Gene SimmonsSullivan County Community College, NY
58Psychology Majors
Natalie PortmanHarvard
Jon StewartWilliam and Mary
591. There are ways to increase your chances of
admission!
- I have no clue what I want to major in is an OK
place to be! - This is your Senior Year fall semester project
- Your parents, relatives and friends all have
opinions. So what? - You can probably pay for it
- Actually, you should apply to Harvard!
- Who needs Harvard?
- Visit. Really VISIT!
- They really do consider the whole package
- There are SEVERAL perfect colleges for you out
there!
60And what are they, please?
- The best single thing you can do to strengthen
your application is to take the tougher classes
and do well in those classes. - The double-edged sword of Early Decision
- Have an Interview (MIT 2008 admit rate if you had
an alumni interview 15.4. Didnt have one
4.7) - Visit the campus
- The length of your resume doesnt matter nearly
as much as quality/value of experience - Dont do gimmicks
61Parents, I feel your pain. This is what I
learned
- My experience of 25-30 years ago is no longer
valid. - I needed to help my kids think as broadly as
possible early on about all the schools out
there. Just because you havent heard of a
school doesnt mean its no good. - Remember that 75 thing.
- Dont set your student up to consider they are a
failure if they didnt get into a
super-selective school. - You are the coach and the cheerleading squad.
Celebrate each step, but they should do the work.
62Here is what really matters in the long run . . .
- Finding the right fit schools that
- Share the same fundamental values and priorities
as the student - Are a place where they are comfortable enough to
take the social and intellectual risks that make
college really worthwhile