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Title: SIPPING IETF 57


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SIPPING IETF 57
  • Jonathan Rosenberg
  • dynamicsoft

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Status
  • IETF 56
  • First introduced
  • Proposal was
  • Adopt as WG item
  • Replace sipping-nat-scenarios with ICE-based
    flows
  • Preconditions work in sip
  • Good interest, hum to make it working item, but
    seemed like few had really read it yet
  • Concerns expressed during meeting
  • Backwards compatibility
  • Replace nat-scenarios need to see it
  • Too complex

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Ice-01
  • Addressed concerns expressed in IETF 56
  • Backwards compatibility
  • No longer using ALT semantic of SDP grouping
    extension
  • Instead, using an alt attribute
  • M and c lines contain address most likely to
    succeed
  • Result is that when ICE-aware client calls
    non-ICE-aware, there is no extra RTT, no Require
    header needed

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Scenarios
  • Ice-01 has nearly 50 pages of example flows
  • These are the content of the proposed replacement
    of sipping-nat-scenarios
  • Outcome
  • Shows how the same client behavior and overall
    algorithm work for
  • Residential
  • Enterprise
  • Centrex
  • Some more flows needed, some more work needed

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Other ICE changes
  • Answer construction simplified including all
    your addresses.
  • Used to need to fragment to deal with m-line
    matching requirements
  • Optimization to avoid extra cycles dont offer a
    new address if peer has already connected to a
    higher priority one
  • Connected determined by receipt of STUN
  • Removed suggested q-values only ordering
    important
  • Partial alignment to parallel TURN rev

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Technical Open Issues
  • Determining address most likely to work for
    population into m and c lines need an algorithm
  • Wont always be right enterprise
  • Do we need to deal with enterprise firewall
    policies which prevent outbound UDP from any
    internal host?
  • May need to add outbound relay ala MSRP to
    TURN

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Process Open Issues
  • Do we want to proceed with this, and if so,
    where?
  • ICE helps with many problems
  • NAT traversal
  • IPv4/IPv6 transition used in v6ops transition
    documents
  • RTSP may be used by them too
  • RTP DoS Prevention see draft-rosenberg-mmusic-rtp
    -denialofservice
  • Proposal Proceed

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How to proceed
  • ICE needs to be split into four documents
  • Main ICE Behavior BCP in sipping or mmusic
  • SDP Extensions mmusic
  • Precondition do people care? If so, sip wg (will
    need requirements)
  • Usage Scenarios with SIP sipping replacing
    sipping-nat-scenarios
  • Volunteers to help with some of this?

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Session Policy
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Changes from previous version
  • Name change to reflect wg item
  • Minor typos and cleanup
  • No real substantial changes has had limited
    email discussion, though folks have continued to
    express interest

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Open Issues
  • Issue 1 Dynamic vs. Static Policies
  • The requirements are written in a way that
    assumes that policies are made during call setup
    (dynamic)
  • Some policies can be done outside of a call
    (static)
  • What codecs to use
  • Some policies are inherently dynamic
  • Intermediary to use port is specified per call
  • Static is much simpler
  • Do we need dynamic??
  • May be other approaches ICE ??
  • May not work for CALEA depends on your
    interpretation

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Open Issues
  • Do UAC and UAS need to know about media changes
    requested of their peer?
  • Do we need to encrypt media policies so that only
    UAC/UAS can see them?
  • Hard to achieve
  • Sips would get us privacy excepting in-path
    elements seems good enough to me
  • Mechanism must not introduce DoS is this
    stating the obvious?
  • Proposal rephrase as must not introduce
    amplification on unauthenticated requests

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URI Leasing
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History
  • General problem How to route a request outside
    of a dialog to a specific UA instance
  • Conferencing ad-hoc conferences
  • Assisted Transfer
  • Presence
  • Draft-rosenberg-sipping-lease written with
    requirements and proposed solution
  • Assumes that the right answer is to lease an
    AOR for the UA instace

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IETF 56
  • Others feel that using embedded Route headers is
    a better solution
  • Confusion about level of complexity implied by
    lease solution
  • Confusion about what the requirements document
    should look like

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Progress
  • An informal group met _at_IETF57
  • Rosenberg, Jennings, Kyzivat, Johnston, Mahy
  • Our conclusions
  • Leasing approach is the right way to go
  • The sipping requirements document should focus on
    the small number of requirements for solving the
    GRUU problem
  • I.e., they are not leasing requirements

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Why leasing?
  • Embedded route headers imply that the proxy
    doesnt know that this is a request to an AOR (a
    GRUU is an AOR)
  • Proxies cant apply policy
  • Proxies cant apply user services
  • Can be done statelessly
  • Side effect of register request
  • Can provide privacy

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Current Mechanism Thinking
INV sipaahu.userpart_at_example.com
  • Client sends REGISTER request
  • Response contains a GRUU Prefix in a header
  • Client can append user-data to GRUU Prefix to
    build an AOR
  • Proxy forwards requests for that AOR to the
    contact it is bound to
  • User-data also passed to user

Registrar
200 OK GRUU aahu
REG Msipc1_at_1.2.3.4
Client
INV sipc1_at_1.2.3.4gruu-infouserpart
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Open Issues
  • Do we need to generally allow a UA to obtain an
    unlimited number of GRUU?
  • Needed for conferencing, but other applications?
  • Does the GRUU go into the Contact header of
    INV/200?
  • Will be the end of direct signaling
  • Syntax of the URIs
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