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Title: Doctors v' Police


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Doctors v. Police
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Civil Commitment Statute
  • Dangerous or equivalent doing thing. ( But short
    of battery or clean attempt)( unless just
    alternative criminal disposition then not civil
    commitment)
  • Mental problem part.
  • What the hospital does for the locked up person
    part.

3
Overbreadth
  • Facial challenge
  • Substantial impact on protected 1st Amendment
    Activity.
  • Convey a message.
  • Remove from one place to another.

4
Vagueness
  • 1.Fair notice to enable ordinary citizen to
    conform conduct to law.
  • 2.Minimal guidelines to govern law enforcement.

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1960 Times Squareloitering with intent to solicit
  • Police could write the law because
  • 1. Arrest, then
  • 2. Dismiss before trial.
  • 3. Therefore never subject to review according to
    a standard.
  • THEREFORE POLICE LEGISTATURE
  • THEREFOREVAGUENESS-UNCONSTITUTIONAL DELEGATION

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This Civil Commitment Scheme
  • Can Doctors legislate when police cant?
  • Remember few if any long enduring cases have
    found real vagueness problems.
  • What makes Drs opinions about what is in
    Defendants head and what to do with him
    critically different.
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