Title: Medical Engineering Degrees The UK Perspective
1Medical Engineering Degrees - The UK Perspective
- Elizabeth Tanner
- Department of Materials
- Queen Mary University of London
- Mile End Road
- London, E1 4NS, UK
2Why is UK thinking about Medical Engineering
degrees?
- Training of Medical Engineers has been
non-systematic - Many universities have/are developing Medical
Engineering degrees - Are students, universities, employers getting the
best out of these degrees?
Medical Engineering Degrees
In this discussion Medical Engineering includes
all its subsets such as Biomaterials,
Biomechanical Engineering, Biomedical
Engineering, Clinical Engineering, Medical
Electronics, etc
3Background
- AIME and Royal Academy of Engineering are
producing a combined report on Medical
Engineering degrees - October 2004 - Meeting at Royal Academy of
Engineering to consider Medical Engineering
degrees - January 2005 - final version of report to be
approved and published
AIME
Association of Institutions concerned with
Medical Engineering
4UKs Questions
- What is needed in Medical Engineering degrees?
- How to accredit Medical Engineering degrees?
- What is best practice in teaching and how to
exchange? - Further developments of degrees
Accreditation of engineering degrees in the UK
Accreditation means provide academic part of
professional training of a Chartered Engineer
5Current UK Degree Levels
- BEng
- Three years (possibly plus Industrial Year)
- MEng
- Four years (possibly plus Industrial Year)
- The fourth year to be used to increase depth and
breadth of students knowledge - MSc/MRes
- Used to increase the range or depth of students
knowledge/train in research - PhD
- Note 1 extra year in Scotland
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UK-SPEC
- CEng
- Accredited Bachelors (Hons) degree in Engineering
or Technology plus appropriate further learning
to Masters level - or an accredited MEng degree
- IEng
- Accredited Bachelors degree in Engineering and
Technology - or HNC/HND in Engineering or Technology plus
appropriate further learning to Bachelors level
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UK-SPEC
- Based on Competence and Commitment
- Sets out generic learning outcome
- Emphasis based on exit levels
- Level of degrees as described in QAA
Qualifications Framework - Applicable to new subjects and teaching methods
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Accredited Engineering Degrees - General Learning
Outcomes
- Knowledge and understanding
- Intellectual abilities
- Practical skills
- General transferable skills
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Accredited Engineering Degrees - Specific
Learning Outcomes
- Underpinning science and mathematics
- Engineering analysis
- Design
- Economic, social and environmental context
- Engineering practice
10Accrediting Medical Engineering
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- What are the essential facts, concepts, theories
and principles? - How to incorporate the medical context?
- Which Engineering Institutions would accredit?
- How can depth (material at the level of the
qualification) and breadth (material below the
level of accreditation) be balanced?
11AIME members who accredited Med Eng
undergraduate degrees
IChemE (Chemical Engineers) ? IEE (Electrical
Engineers) ? IHEEM (Healthcare Estates
Management) ? IIE (Incorporated Engineers) IEng
not CEng IMechE (Mechanical Engineers) ? IoM3
(Materials, Minerals and Mining) ? IoP
(Physics) CPhys accreditation IPEM (Physics
Engineering in Medicine) only
post graduate masters
AIME
Association of Institutions concerned with
Medical Engineering
12Does accreditation matter?
- Graduates need a qualification that can be used
elsewhere - Accredited courses will attract students
(including international students) - High quality graduates lead to high quality
products - Is the future of UK engineering in
cross-disciplinary areas?
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International benefits of accreditation
- Washington, Sydney and Dublin Accords for CEng,
IEng and EngTech respectively - Signatories agree to recognise each others
accreditation decisions - Australia, Canada, Hong Kong, Ireland, New
Zealand, South Africa, UK, USA have signed - Japan, Korea, Malaysia and Germany are interested
in joining - Output standards being drafted for agreement in
2005
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International aspects
- Bologna Declaration and engineering degrees
- ESOEPE set up in 2000 to share information and
practice on engineering degree accreditation in
Europe - European Commission has funded ESOEPE to develop
a framework for accreditation of engineering
education in Europe - Steering Committee members from France, Germany,
Ireland, Italy, Portugal, Russia, UK
15Benefits of Medical Engineering degrees
- Some students want to do Medical Engineering
but not Engineering - PROVIDED sufficient engineering content,
graduates can (and will) go into straight
engineering - Will provide more engineering graduates
- Medicine needs more engineering graduates in
clinical support, industry and as practitioners
16Concerns with Medical Engineeringdegrees at
undergraduate level
- Can the students gain sufficient knowledge of
ENGINEERING? to be useful engineers - Can the students gain sufficient knowledge of
MEDICAL? - to be able to use this knowledge,
- for their own intellectual stimulation and
- to be able to communicate with clinicians
- How can these two factors be balanced?
17Engineering Content Concerns
- Sufficient starting (background) knowledge
- Student intake
- Sufficient knowledge input
- Accreditation of degrees by Engineering
Institutions
18Medical Content Concerns
- Design of degree and syllabi
- Teaching by medical school staff
- Design of projects etc.
19Teaching of Medical Engineering
- Can teaching engineering principles, but applied
to medical rather than straight engineering - Four bar mechanisms - human knee
- Laminar fluid flow - blood vessels and kidney
dialysis - Steel Alloying - 316L for implants
- Lost wax process - dental implants
20What does the employer want?
- IN MEDICAL ENGINEERING
- Good understanding of the core discipline
- Ability to work in mixed teams
- includes non technical/non specialist
- may include the patient and relatives
- Understanding of the regulatory framework
- Medical Systems Engineering not widely accepted
(except in IT) - Boundary with Physics increasingly blurred
21Potential Problems in UK
- Can subject be taught by non practitioners?
- Problem of physical separation of university
departments and hospital medical
engineering/physics - Problem of NHS subcontracting to external
companies - not technical concern,
- but lose the patient involvement which may be
reason for choosing the career - NHS employees have less time for research/service
development - Few UK based manufacturers
- thus jobs in sales, service, technical support
22Is a graduate Medical Engineer employable
elsewhere?
- Physics graduates are employed as (mutate into)
engineers - A graduate from an accredited degree has achieved
recognised standards - The breadth of the Medical Engineering degree
could be an asset
23Advantages of offering Medical Engineering Degrees
Imperial College London
- Popularity
- A more general Engineering training may reflect
changing engineering practice in industry - Meeting national needs
24Options for Medical Engineering degree
Imperial College London
- Course bolted on to one of the more traditional
engineering degrees - e.g. Medical electronics, biomechanics,
biomaterials - General biomedical engineering course
25Disadvantages of general biomedical engineering
course
Imperial College London
- Broad syllabus requiring education and training
in a wide range of topics and skills - Too broad?
- Tough course
26Imperial College London
Rationale for course at Imperial
- To provide training for graduate engineers who
can work in the healthcare sector - 4-year MEng
- To train engineers who will then proceed to
medical training - 3-year BEng
27Intercalated BSc degrees
- Kings College London
- Biomaterials GKT Dental School
- Imperial College London
- Imaging Medical Engineering
- St Bartholomews and The Royal London School of
Medicine and Dentistry (QMUL) - Biomedical Engineering Department of
Engineering, QMUL - Clinical Materials Department of Materials,
QMUL - University College London
- Medical Physics and Bioengineering Department
of Medical Physics and Bioengineering