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1The costs of ODL first analysis
- Context aims
- Results
- Analysis of the literature
- Case study n1 at University
- Case study n2 in a company
- Case study n3 in a training centre
- Conclusions
- Perspectives
2The costs of ODL first analysis
- Context aims
- Much ado about nothing , caricatured speeches
- Efforts to rationalize in public and private
companies - New comers with offensive marketing
- Start-up going down but lots of projects
- e-learning KM porosity immaterial value
- Lightness of the French production
3The costs of ODL first analysis
- Context Aims
- To wring the ROIs neck
- Try to give training actors some valid data
- To validate some hypothesis for example to have a
different approach according to the investigated
ground (is it possible to mix firms,
universities, training centres?) - Try to build an analysis grid to calculate costs
of flexible systems - Test this tool
4The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the documentary analysis
- No theoretical background to rely upon
- A binary approach training is looked at as an
expense or an investment - A mechanical transfer of traditional criteria
and instruments on a field characterised by
complexity, innovation and service co-production
5The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the documentary analysis
- No evaluation of the flexible systems output, of
the socio-economical impact though talking about
ROI! - When criteria in ROI calculation is mentioned, it
is never justified, it can even be in
contradiction with profitability - Focus only on running costs
- Limits of the fixed and variable costs
- Limits of the direct and indirect charges
distinction
6The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the university investigations
- A complex environment where data collection is
hard - Investigations question about the existing
organisation as far as management tools, models
and practices are concerned - The ABC model and our thought process (personal
and partial use of the theoretical model) - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/La
démarche.doc
7The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the university investigations
- Identification of 28 activities gathered into 4
main process and 11 categories of actors - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Nomencl
ature d'activités.doc - Variable process programmation and management
are more important than production and
exploitation - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/VALORI
SATION DES ACTIVITES.doc - Actors who concentrate their tasks upon 1 or 2
process - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/CONTRIB
UTION DES ACTEURS.doc
8The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the university investigations
- The main role played by teachers
- Some activities take time but are not necessarily
costly (ex instruction of the administrative
dossiers) - Some interesting data crossing calculation of
the of agregate remuneration taken by each
activity (e.g exploitation takes 19 of the
agregate remuneration for 26 of the time spent)
9The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the university investigations
- Subsidy effects at university due to the common
pot principle - Some expenses are not taken into account by the
local accountancy - Indirect charges are difficult to link with
activities for part of the resources which are
used is common and the other part is
specificactors are not able to appreciate,
mesure which part is aimed at the ODL system.
10The costs of ODL first analysis
- Results of the university investigations
- A profit and loss account which is not
profitable. About 100 students per half-year are
needed to reach the balance. Only 123 were
trained on the past 4 half-years - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Crésult
at partiel.doc - An average cost per student 5403,20 euros BUT
the training session is charged 1524,5 euros - An average cost per hour per process calculation
exploitation process costs around 20,7 euros per
hour, the management process costs around 37,35
euros per hour.
11The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in a company
- Different approach focusing on ROI
- A specific context efforts to rationalize (cost
of training kind of taboo, setting up of a
department in charge of service buying) and to
revise the existing training system - An ambitious e-learning project (650 persons on
150 different locations)
12The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the company
- The firm hypothesis costs must be reduced thanks
to e-learning (face to face time to train and
through individualization) - An unfinished ingeneering of the flexible system
- The B2e department a restricted vision
- Methodological bias the payback (less than a
year)
13The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the company
- Limits of the analysis grids
- No links beetween the B2E grids and the central
management tools? - No valid experience on e-learning, a step by step
process due to innovation, risks are difficult to
cope with - No look back on past errors (high level of
failures, no development of the former e-learning
initiatives)
14The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the company
- Estimations rather than rigourous calculations,
no control of the B2E on the data, lots of hidden
costs - Sophisticated management instrument BUT no tools
to assess the flexible system outputs - No valid comparisons face to face versus
e-learning - An analysis grid which was localy adapted,
difficulty to make the grid used as it was
supposed to be?
15Renforcement de la volonté de rationaliser
Création dune Direction Projet B2E recensement
des projets dont e-learning, benchmark, ébauche
de loutil daide à la décision, rationalité
limitée, cadre pré-construit, problématique de
linvestissement immatériel
Aucune mesure de loutput (rendement pédagogique,
amélioration des performances, ), suivi des
gains avec le contrôle de gestion à préciser,
instance et niveau de pilotage de la production
du dispositif non définie
Volonté stratégique et politique de rationaliser
le foisonnement didées
Écarts, dérives, suivi des gains peu fiable,
difficulté à retrouver ses petits
Faible maîtrise du e-learning par la cellule B2E,
aucun contrôle de lexhaustivité des éléments de
calcul et de leur pertinence, sous-estimation des
risques, respect des systèmes dintérêt
Définition dun cadre, dune méthodologie ,
permettant de valider la rentabilité de tel ou
tel projet
Validation du projet, légitimation du projet et
du cadre, respect des systèmes dintérêts
divergents
Ingénierie des projets non aboutie, comparaison
de service qui sont différents, pertinence des
indicateurs à revoir, calcul des coûts du projet
tronqué, faible maîtrise du e-learning par MOA et
MOE, non prise en compte de la dimension
complexité
Stratégie de contournement de loutil, faire
entrer dans les cases
16The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the T. Centre
- Having a look on an ODL system partly funded by
ESF after a two year experiment - An ambitious project regarding the target group,
the number of places (30 planned, 20 worked, only
9 worked all along the project), the technical
architecture and the pedagogical organisation
17The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the T. Centre
- A system which could not have been set up without
ESF - One partner business plan
18The costs of ODL first analysis
- Investigation results in the T. Centre
- One partner business plan
19The costs of ODL first analysis
- One partner economic model 0,8 per hour per
trainee BUT it is charged less than 0,5 ! - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Modélis
ation ILEP.doc
20The costs of ODL first analysis
- The economic model
- Not complete
- Major subsidy effects
- Some costs are supported by partners
- On the shelf products (except for distant
education resources) - Model based on a kind of ideal situation BUT many
hidden costs due to organisational problems - http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Dysfonc
tionnements recensés.doc
21The costs of ODL first analysis
- Difficult to find adjustments 51 of the costs
tutoring but it is only 23 of the overall time
22The costs of ODL first analysis
- The limits of this model
- Doesnt represent reality cost versus expense
- Costs supported by partner dependance
- Reducing tutoring is rather risky pedagogy
versus economy? - Susbidy effects is not profitability and develop
on ashort time basis frustration and tensions in
the organisation
23The costs of ODL first analysis
- Conclusions at this step
- Investigating on costs is above all questioning
the existing organisation and practices (not
stable, not readable among the organisation
because of the weakness of the management
instruments) - Context are of paramount importance
- But there is at least one specifically
generic element no technological remedy, ICTs
are not likely to generate (automatically) a
better profitability or productivity - 3 regards sur 3 mondes
24The costs of ODL first analysis
- Conclusions at this step
- 3 critical eyes upon 3 different worlds which
very well illustrate Simon March concept of
limited rationality (hard to collect data,
illusion around the management of ODL costs
synonymous of uncertainty and complexity
management) - This sounds as an echo to the speeches on
profitability in training (hardly based on valid
data ) - Showing the weakness of the way costs are
analysed
25The costs of ODL first analysis
- Perspectives
- Keep on analysing and testing our grid on 4
e-learning systems - Try to find partners to keep on investigating
- Try to deal with the much more difficult question
of impacts and outputs