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Title: Utilisation du serveur internet Autofod http:www'autofod'com


1
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Context aims
  • Results
  • Analysis of the literature
  • Case study n1 at University
  • Case study n2 in a company
  • Case study n3 in a training centre
  • Conclusions
  • Perspectives

2
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Context aims
  • Much ado about nothing , caricatured speeches
  • Efforts to rationalize in public and private
    companies
  • New comers with offensive marketing
  • Start-up going down but lots of projects
  • e-learning KM porosity immaterial value
  • Lightness of the French production

3
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Context Aims
  • To wring the ROIs neck
  • Try to give training actors some valid data
  • To validate some hypothesis for example to have a
    different approach according to the investigated
    ground (is it possible to mix firms,
    universities, training centres?)
  • Try to build an analysis grid to calculate costs
    of flexible systems
  • Test this tool

4
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the documentary analysis
  • No theoretical background to rely upon
  • A binary approach training is looked at as an
    expense or an investment
  • A mechanical transfer of traditional criteria
    and instruments on a field characterised by
    complexity, innovation and service co-production

5
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the documentary analysis
  • No evaluation of the flexible systems output, of
    the socio-economical impact though talking about
    ROI!
  • When criteria in ROI calculation is mentioned, it
    is never justified, it can even be in
    contradiction with profitability
  • Focus only on running costs
  • Limits of the fixed and variable costs
  • Limits of the direct and indirect charges
    distinction

6
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the university investigations
  • A complex environment where data collection is
    hard
  • Investigations question about the existing
    organisation as far as management tools, models
    and practices are concerned
  • The ABC model and our thought process (personal
    and partial use of the theoretical model)
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/La
    démarche.doc

7
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the university investigations
  • Identification of 28 activities gathered into 4
    main process and 11 categories of actors
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Nomencl
    ature d'activités.doc
  • Variable process programmation and management
    are more important than production and
    exploitation
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/VALORI
    SATION DES ACTIVITES.doc
  • Actors who concentrate their tasks upon 1 or 2
    process
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/CONTRIB
    UTION DES ACTEURS.doc

8
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the university investigations
  • The main role played by teachers
  • Some activities take time but are not necessarily
    costly (ex instruction of the administrative
    dossiers)
  • Some interesting data crossing calculation of
    the of agregate remuneration taken by each
    activity (e.g exploitation takes 19 of the
    agregate remuneration for 26 of the time spent)

9
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the university investigations
  • Subsidy effects at university due to the  common
    pot  principle
  • Some expenses are not taken into account by the
    local accountancy
  • Indirect charges are difficult to link with
    activities for part of the resources which are
    used is common and the other part is
    specificactors are not able to appreciate,
    mesure which part is aimed at the ODL system.

10
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Results of the university investigations
  • A profit and loss account which is not
    profitable. About 100 students per half-year are
    needed to reach the balance. Only 123 were
    trained on the past 4 half-years
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Crésult
    at partiel.doc
  • An average cost per student 5403,20 euros BUT
    the training session is charged 1524,5 euros
  • An average cost per hour per process calculation
    exploitation process costs around 20,7 euros per
    hour, the management process costs around 37,35
    euros per hour.

11
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in a company
  • Different approach focusing on ROI
  • A specific context efforts to rationalize (cost
    of training kind of taboo, setting up of a
    department in charge of service buying) and to
    revise the existing training system
  • An ambitious e-learning project (650 persons on
    150 different locations)

12
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the company
  • The firm hypothesis costs must be reduced thanks
    to e-learning (face to face time to train and
    through individualization)
  • An unfinished ingeneering of the flexible system
  • The B2e department a restricted vision
  • Methodological bias the payback (less than a
    year)

13
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the company
  • Limits of the analysis grids
  • No links beetween the B2E grids and the central
    management tools?
  • No valid experience on e-learning, a step by step
    process due to innovation, risks are difficult to
    cope with
  • No look back on past errors (high level of
    failures, no development of the former e-learning
    initiatives)

14
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the company
  • Estimations rather than rigourous calculations,
    no control of the B2E on the data, lots of hidden
    costs
  • Sophisticated management instrument BUT no tools
    to assess the flexible system outputs
  • No valid comparisons face to face versus
    e-learning
  • An analysis grid which was  localy adapted,
    difficulty to make the grid used as it was
    supposed to be?

15
Renforcement de la volonté de rationaliser
Création dune Direction Projet B2E recensement
des projets dont e-learning, benchmark, ébauche
de loutil daide à la décision, rationalité
limitée, cadre pré-construit, problématique de
linvestissement immatériel
Aucune mesure de loutput (rendement pédagogique,
amélioration des performances, ), suivi des
gains avec le contrôle de gestion à préciser,
instance et niveau de pilotage de la production
du dispositif non définie
Volonté stratégique et politique de rationaliser
le foisonnement didées
Écarts, dérives, suivi des gains peu fiable,
difficulté à retrouver ses petits
Faible maîtrise du e-learning par la cellule B2E,
aucun contrôle de lexhaustivité des éléments de
calcul et de leur pertinence, sous-estimation des
risques, respect des systèmes dintérêt
Définition dun cadre, dune méthodologie ,
permettant de valider la rentabilité de tel ou
tel projet
Validation du projet, légitimation du projet et
du cadre, respect des systèmes dintérêts
divergents
Ingénierie des projets non aboutie, comparaison
de service qui sont différents, pertinence des
indicateurs à revoir, calcul des coûts du projet
tronqué, faible maîtrise du e-learning par MOA et
MOE, non prise en compte de la dimension
complexité
Stratégie de contournement de loutil,  faire
entrer dans les cases 
16
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the T. Centre
  • Having a look on an ODL system partly funded by
    ESF after a two year experiment
  • An ambitious project regarding the target group,
    the number of places (30 planned, 20 worked, only
    9 worked all along the project), the technical
    architecture and the pedagogical organisation

17
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the T. Centre
  • A system which could not have been set up without
    ESF
  • One partner business plan

18
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Investigation results in the T. Centre
  • One partner business plan

19
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • One partner economic model 0,8 per hour per
    trainee BUT it is charged less than 0,5 !
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Modélis
    ation ILEP.doc

20
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • The economic model
  • Not complete
  • Major subsidy effects
  • Some costs are supported by partners
  • On the shelf products (except for distant
    education resources)
  • Model based on a kind of ideal situation BUT many
    hidden costs due to organisational problems
  • http//www.fffod.org/fr/doc/S2NET/CostsODL/Dysfonc
    tionnements recensés.doc

21
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Difficult to find adjustments 51 of the costs
    tutoring but it is only 23 of the overall time

22
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • The limits of this model
  • Doesnt represent reality cost versus expense
  • Costs supported by partner dependance
  • Reducing tutoring is rather risky pedagogy
    versus economy?
  • Susbidy effects is not profitability and develop
    on ashort time basis frustration and tensions in
    the organisation

23
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Conclusions at this step
  • Investigating on costs is above all questioning
    the existing organisation and practices (not
    stable, not readable among the organisation
    because of the weakness of the management
    instruments)
  • Context are of paramount importance
  • But there is at least one  specifically
    generic  element no technological remedy, ICTs
    are not likely to generate (automatically) a
    better profitability or productivity
  • 3 regards sur 3 mondes

24
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Conclusions at this step
  • 3 critical eyes upon 3 different  worlds which
    very well illustrate Simon March concept of
    limited rationality (hard to collect data,
    illusion around the management of ODL costs
    synonymous of uncertainty and complexity
    management)
  • This sounds as an echo to the speeches on
    profitability in training (hardly based on valid
    data )
  • Showing the weakness of the way costs are
    analysed

25
The costs of ODL first analysis
  • Perspectives
  • Keep on analysing and testing our grid on 4
    e-learning systems
  • Try to find partners to keep on investigating
  • Try to deal with the much more difficult question
    of impacts and outputs
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