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Demography, Politics and Old Age John A. Vincent
  • British Society for Gerontology Annual
    Conference, Newcastle upon Tyne, 4-6 September
    2003.

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Statement of the problem
  • The CIA (2001) raise the question as to whether
    intergenerational conflict will arise? They
    identify electoral politics as creating a key
    problem
  • with ever more electoral power flowing into the
    hands of the elderly... A rise in
    intergenerational conflict may not be far behind
    (CIA 200135)
  • this presentation explores the reality of the
    threat of older people dominating electoral
    politics, stifling economic and cultural
    creativity and sparking inter-generational
    conflict.

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Historically, the richest developed nations have
been growing, capital exporting, philanthropic
giants that have projected their power and mores
around the world. A quarter-century from now
these countries may instead be demographically
challenged, fiscally starving neutrals who
maneuver to avoid expensive international
entanglements Elder-dominated electorates may
be more risk averse, shunning decisive
confrontations abroad in favor of ad hoc
settlements.(CIA 200185)
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Older People and Politics Project
  • Between May 1999 to May 2000
  • Interviews were conducted with politicians,
    pressure group professionals and activists within
    the pensioners movement.
  • Focus groups looked at perceptions of the power
    and influence of older people.
  • A nationwide face-to-face survey by MORI.
  • Observation and participation in a wide range of
    events including forums, public meetings,
    committee meetings and rallies.

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Older People and Politics Project
This presentation uses published sources -
particularly the documents of the parties and
politicians themselves to explore the
cross-national generality of the findings of the
OPPOL study.
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Key findings from OPPOL
  • Problems for the political effectiveness of the
    pensioners movement include
  • the diversity of interests and fragmentation
  • organisational problems including leadership and
    continuity
  • cultural problems around the perception of old
    age
  • the political culture and constitution of the UK.

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Issues
. People are more likely to organise around
issues than around age groups. Pensions and
rights in the welfare state, around which most
older peoples organisations campaign, are seen
by their members as universal rights, not ones
specific to old age.
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The political culture and constitution of the UK
The British first past the post electoral
system encourages the dominance of two-party
politics. The British political tradition this
has been thought of as left and right, that is,
as an ideological or class divide. There is thus
no tradition of sectional interests such as age
groups or occupations seeking their own
representation.
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Compassionate ageism
  • In Politics and Old Age, we concluded that the
    pensioners movement was not a powerful political
    force in British electoral politics. Older
    people were the subject of compassionate ageism,
    i.e. important to the electorate but not
    political actors in their own right as a self
    articulating political movement.

10
Testing these findings against pensioner power
successes
  • Scottish Senior Citizens Unity Party success in
    May 2003
  • Massive demonstrations in France against pension
    reform in 1995 and 2003
  • Electoral success of Dutch Seniors parties in
    1994

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Scottish Parliament region. Central Region
result 
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John Swinburne elected as MSP
  • The 'over 60s' in Scotland represent 24 of the
    electorate and while they are our main target
    group we are also calling upon their families to
    go out and vote according to their conscience
    with their first vote on polling day but to give
    their SECOND vote to their 'old folks.
  • This quote from a SCCUP press conference shows
  • a direct appeal to compassionate ageism.
  • importance of proportional representation.

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Pensions top of the agenda
  • A - Abolish poverty for all Scottish Senior
    Citizens by increasing the basic pension to 150
    per week
  • B -  Banish means testing for all Scottish Senior
    Citizens
  • C -  Council Tax to be replaced by a fairer local
    income tax 

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  • Leadership - Swinburnes campaign depended on
    resources derived from other areas of life (in
    this case football).
  • Fragmentation - as SCCUP was launched another
    Pensioners Party was also being launched in Fife.
  • Expertise - Swinburne describes himself as
    politically naive, lacking expertise, and having
    to seek advice from the Electoral Commission.
  • Ageism - Swinburne was not treated seriously in
    the campaign by important sections of the
    Scottish media. They were portrayed as grumpy
    old men in cardigans by the Scotsman.

15
France
  • Le Pourvoir Gris by J-P Viriot Durandal. (2003)
  • the French welfare state creates particular kinds
    of interests
  • grey power as a force in formation,
  • It is struggling with the fragmentation and
    problem of making strategic alliances,
  • There are cultural and symbolic obstacles as well
    as the organisational problems of radicalising
    older people.
  • older people are creating new espaces daction,
    new agendas and new forms collective action which
    will themselves play a role in coming to define
    grey power.

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France
  • fragmentation of French older politics.
  • despite this fragmentation massive demonstrations
    and strike action have been mobilised.
  • French activism focuses on opposition to pension
    reform.
  • The opposition to these proposals are led
    primarily by Trade Unions.
  • Most political pundits believe that the new
    French government will pass the proposed
    legislation and the Union led opposition will not
    have the success it did in 1995 in forcing a
    government retreat.

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organisations involved in the National Week of
retired and older people in the Department du
Nord.
  • Association Jeunes Retraités
  • Centre d'Information et de Coordination de
    l'Action Sociale - CICAS Nord
  • Comité Départemental des Retraités et Personnes
    Agées - CODERPA
  • Conseil Général du Nord
  • Direction Départementale des Affaires Sanitaires
    et Sociales - DDASS
  • Fédération des Clubs d'Aînés du Nord - FEDECRAN

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  • Grandparenfant
  • Les Petits Frères des Pauvres
  • Mouvement Chrétien des Retraités
  • Union Nationale des Centres Communaux d'Action
    Sociale - UNCCAS
  • Union Régionale du Nord des Associations de
    Retraités - URNAR
  • Union Régionale Interfédérale des Organismes
    Privés Sanitaires et Sociaux URIOPSS

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Netherlands
  • The Algemeen Ouderen Verbond (AOV) is the Dutch
    General Seniors Party, founded in December 1993,
    by Martin Batenburg a seventy year old pensioner.
    They won 5 seats in the City council of
    Eindhoven. 3rd May 1994 they won 3,6 of the vote
    and 6 seats in Parliament.
  • Another new party for the elderly, the Unie 55,
    also won a seat at that election.

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Netherlands
  • The party did not survive its success and split
    and lost its seats. It has joined in an electoral
    alliance with the Unie 55.
  • Succeeded through proportional representation and
    disillusion with the mainstream parties.
    Disillusion which resulted in electoral meltdown
    the short-lived electoral success of Pim
    Fortuyns party.

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United States
  • AARP (American Association of Retired Persons).
  • professional organisation, sustained by
    membership payments and commercial activities.
  • access to life assurance benefits and travel and
    drug discounts as well as pressure group
    activities and policy making.
  • highly influential organisation of 35 million
    members.

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USA militaristic images
  • Young v. Old Intergenerational combat in the
    21st century MacManus and Turner (1996)
  • Hamil-Luke, Jenifer (2001) The prospects of Age
    War Inequality between (and within) Age Groups
    Social Science Research. 30386-400.
  • Street, D. (1997) Apocalyptic Demography Meets
    Apocalyptic Politics The British Society of
    Gerontology Conference Elder Power in the 21st
    Century. Bristol 19-21 September 1997.

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Older peoples use of the vote
  • Achenbaum (1997) argues that in the USA old
    people dont vote differently than rest of
    population, although they tend to vote more. Our
    work suggests this is also true for Britain.
  • Older Voters in both the USA and the UK do not
    tend to vote as an interest group. Older people
    tend not act collectively or vote together, even
    although many share common experiences of dashed
    expectations of income and support in old age.

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Why the CIA is wrong
  • They confuse electoral power of older people with
    the popularity of the welfare state. Public
    expenditure on health care and pensions are not
    sectional interests of older people to be pursued
    through the ballot box. They are rather the
    collective interests of the great majority of
    working people who will tend to use their
    political influence to protect their entitlements
    to welfare and pensions.

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The CIA is sociologically naive
  • Re-ification is characterising society as if it
    were an individual. Personalities and character
    traits belong to individuals not society. Counter
    intuitive social processes might be at work,
    generational blocks to aspiring youth might lead
    to a culturally creative society.
  • It is ageist to characterise older people as
    lacking innovation and creativity. Across Europe,
    older people are more politically conservative
    but there is a key difference between
    conservative as avoiding change and conservative
    as supporting right wing policies and programmes.

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Comparisons
  • The need in the United States for older people to
    act collectively to secure for themselves health
    insurance, cheap drugs, and a minimal safety net
    is because of the paucity of the state provision.
  • Hence it is possible, in the US context, to
    portray older peoples solidarity as generational
    conflict.
  • The different mixes of health, welfare, and
    pension provision in the UK, Netherlands and
    France militate against collective action by
    older people and thus any illusion of
    intergenerational conflict.

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Conclusions
  • The electoral success of pensioner parties
    depends on constitutional regimes and the
    structure of politics. It takes forms of
    proportional representation for older peoples
    parties to get elected and their success is based
    in other resources than simply the appeal to
    older peoples material interests.
  • PR enables fringe parties get elected through a
    broader disillusion with conventional politics

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Conclusion
  • It is difficult to find evidence of a growth in
    the electoral strength of the older age groups.
    Evidence for an apparent lack of influence of
    older people, on the other hand, is twofold,
    first, in the character and activities of older
    peoples organisations and, second, in the low
    priority given by party political elites to older
    voters.
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