Why Baptists Are Not Protestants

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• (MATTHEW 1618 2820)

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• The Protestant Reformation is usually dated from
  October 31, 1517, when Martin Luther nailed his
  95 Theses to the door of the Castle Church in
  Wittenburg, Germany.
• Source
• REFORMATION
• http//www.newadvent.org/cathen/10521a.htm

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• In the Second Diet of Speier, April 25, 1529
  certain Lutheran princes appeared with a formal
  written protest against those matters in which
  the Diet went contrary to the Christian faith as
  they understood it. This protest was signed by
  Elector John of Saxony, Margrave George of
  Brandenburg, Dukes Ernest and Francis of
  Braunschweig-Luneburg, Landgrave Philip of Hesse,
  Prince Wolfgang of Anhalt and the representatives
  of fourteen imperial cities. The protest was
  designed to protect them from the decisions of
  this Council. It was a defensive measure. The
  celebrated church historian, Philip Schaaf, makes
  the noteworthy statement "From this protest and
  appeal, the Lutherans were called Protestants."
  (History of the Christian Church, Volume VII,
  p.692). The same facts are stated in the Catholic
  Encyclopedia (Volume Xll, p.495).

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• The Anabaptists, who appeared in Germany and
  German Switzerland shortly after the appearance
  of Luther and Zwingli, wished to trace back their
  conception of the Church to Apostolic times. They
  denied the validity of the baptism of children,
  saw in the Blessed Eucharist merely a memorial
  ceremony, and wished to restore the Kingdom of
  God according to their own heretical and mystical
  views. Though ATTACKED by the other Reformers
  (PROTESTANTS), they won supporters in many lands.
• (Source DIFFERENT FORMS OF THE REFORMATION)
• http//www.newadvent.org/cathen/10521a.htm

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• An Act made by the Protestants against
  Anabaptists
• "All Anabaptists and rebaptized persons, male or
  female, of mature age, shall be judged and
  brought from natural life to death, by fire, or
  sword or otherwise, as may benefit the persons,
  without preceding trial by spiritual judges.

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- CATHOLICS FALSE HISTORY -
RESTORATIONISM
Great Schism (11th C.A.)
Reformation (16th C.A.)
ANABAPTISM
PROTESTANTISM
ANGLICANISM
EARLY CHURCH CATHOLIC CHURCH
ROMAN CATHOLICISM
Eastern Churches
Eastern Orthodox
Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Oriental Orthodox
Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Assyrian Church
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- TRUE CHRISTIAN HISTORY -
MONTANISTS
, NOVATIANS
, GOTHS
, DONATISTS
, PAULICIANS
, ALBIGENSES
WALDENSIANS
, CATHARI
, HUSSITES
, LOLLARDS
, MORAVIAN
, ANABAPTISTS
PRE-PROTESTANT
RESTORATIONISM
Great Schism (11th C.A.)
Reformation (16th C.A.)
ANABAPTISM
PROTESTANTISM
ANGLICANISM
CATHOLIC CHURCH (313 AD)
EARLY CHURCH CATHOLIC CHURCH
ROMAN CATHOLICISM
Eastern Churches
Eastern Orthodox
Council of Ephesus (431 AD)
Oriental Orthodox
Council of Chalcedon (451 AD)
Assyrian Church
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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• In the eleventh and twelfth centuries the
  Petrobrusians rejected infant baptism and they
  and many subsequent medieval heretics
  (Henricians, Waldenses, Albigenses, and Bohemian
  Brethren) held views resembling in some respects
  the tenets of Anabaptists.
• (Source ANABAPTISTS, Catholic Encyclopedia)
• http//www.newadvent.org/cathen/10521a.htm

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• For not so long ago I read the edict of the
  other prince who lamented the fate of the
  Anabaptists who, so we read, were pronounced
  heretics TWELVE HUNDRED YEARS AGO and deserving
  of capital punishment. He wanted them to be heard
  and not taken as condemned without a hearing.

(1563 1200 363) that means BAPTISTS already
existed in 363 AD

• (Source The letters of Cardinal Stanislaus
  Hosius, Liber Epistolarum 150, titled Alberto
  Bavariae Duci in about 1563 A.D.)

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• Edinburg Cyclopedia (Presbyterian)
• It must have already occurred to our readers
  that the Baptists are the same sect of Christians
  that were formerly described as Ana-Baptists.
  Indeed this seems to have been their leading
  principle from the time of TERTULLIAN to the
  present time.
• (Tertullian was born just fifty years after the
  death of the Apostle John.)

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• Mosheim (Lutheran)
• Before the rise of Luther and Calvin, there lay
  secreted in almost all the countries of Europe
  persons who adhered tenaciously to the principles
  of modern Dutch Baptists.

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• Sir Isaac Newton
• The Baptists are the only body of known
  Christians that have never symbolized with Rome.

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• It is also evident that the Baptists were not
  Protestants because they were fiercely persecuted
  by the Protestant Reformers and their followers.
  (Luke 949-56)
• At Zurich, after many disputations between
  Zuinglius and the Ana-Baptists, the Senate made
  an Act, that if any presume to re-baptized those
  who were baptized before (i.e. infants) they
  should be drowned. At Vienna many Ana-Baptists
  were tied together in chains that one drew the
  other after him into the river, wherein they were
  all suffocated (drowned). (Vida Supra, p. 61)

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• KONRED GREBEL died in prison in 1526.

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -

• FELIX MANZ was drowned by the authorities at
  Zurich, Switzerland in 1527

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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -
BAITHAUSER HUBMAIER was burned alive at the stake
in Vienna March 10, 1528.
Three days later his wife was drowned by being
thrown over the Danube bridge with a stone tied
to her neck.
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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -
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1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
- HISTORICAL EVIDENCE -
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2. DOCTRINALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
B BIBLE is the final authority (2 Timothy 316)
A AUTONOMY of the Local Church (Eph. 523)
P PRIESTHOOD of all believers (1 Peter 29)
T TWO ORDINANCES (Baptism Lord Supper)
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2. DOCTRINALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• The word BAPTIST is used 15 times in the Bible to
  describe John the Baptist

• John the Baptist derived his name from the fact
  that he was baptizing people Matthew 35-6,13-17

• Baptism is through EMERSION v. 16 went up out
  of the water John 322-21 much water

• Baptism is not part of salvation John 129 If
  baptism saves then why Jesus was baptized?

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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• Repent, and be BAPTIZED everyone of you in the
  name of Jesus Christ FOR the remission of sins
• (ACTS 238)

Paghinulsol, ug PAGPABAUTISMO ang matag usa
kaninyo diha sa ngalan ni Jesus Cristo TUNGOD sa
kapasayloan sa mga sala (BUHAT 238) KJV
CEBUANO BIBLE
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2. DOCTRINALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• The like figure whereunto even BAPTISM doth also
  now SAVE US (not the putting away of the filth of
  the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience
  toward God,)
• (1 PETER 321)

Sa samang hulagway ngadto niini bisan ang
BAUTISMO usab karon NAGLUWAS kanato (dili sa
pagkuha sa kahugaw sa unod, apan ang tubag sa usa
ka MAAYONG KONSENSYA ngadto sa Dios,) (1 PEDRO
321) KJV CEBUANO BIBLE
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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

• The word BAPTIST is used 15 times in the Bible to
  describe John the Baptist

• John the Baptist derived his name from the fact
  that he was baptizing people Matthew 35-6,13-17

• Baptism is through EMERSION v. 16 went up out
  of the water John 322-21 much water

• Baptism is not part of salvation John 129 If
  baptism saves then why Jesus was baptized?

• Baptism is a picture of that which can save I
  Peter 321 the like figure

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2. DOCTRINALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
B BIBLE is the final authority (2 Timothy 316)
A AUTONOMY of the Local Church (Eph. 523)
P PRIESTHOOD of all believers (1 Peter 29)
T TWO ORDINANCES (Baptism Lord Supper)
I INDIVIDUAL SOUL LIBERTY (Romans 1412)
S SEPERATION of Church and State (Matt. 2221)
T TWO OFFICES (Pastor Deacons)
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3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS

1. We differ from Protestants in our PROPONENT
   (founder).

• Lutherans hark back to MARTIN LUTHER
• Reformed look to JOHN CALVIN
• Presbyterians were rounded by JOHN KNOX
• Methodists acknowledge JOHN WESLEY

Who gave rise to BAPTISTS CHURCHES?
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3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
B. We differ from Protestants in our PROVENANCE
(birthplace).

• Lutherans came from GERMANY
• Reformed from SWITZERLAND NETHERLANDS
• Presbyterians from SCOTLAND
• Episcopalians from ENGLAND

How about the Baptists?
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3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
C. We differ from Protestants in our PRINCIPLES
(creed).

• Protestants based their creed on
• Augsburg Confession
• Canons of Dort
• Westminster Confession

How about the Baptists?
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3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS
D. We differ from Protestants in our PRACTICE.

• Baptists have never been linked with Protestants
  and have never been identified with the Roman
  Catholic Church.
• They have maintained their identity and been
  faithful to the Scriptures.
• Real Baptists hold to the plain teaching of
  Christ and the Apostles.

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3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTSARE NOT PROTESTANTS

1. We differ from Protestants in our PROPONENT
   (founder).

B. We differ from Protestants in our PROVENANCE
(birthplace).
C. We differ from Protestants in our PRINCIPLES
(creed).
D. We differ from Protestants in our PRACTICE.
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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS
Sentence of MICHAEL SATTLER ( May 21, 1527,
Rottenburg)
"Michael Sattler shall be delivered to the
hangman, who shall take him to the place of
execution and cut out his tongue he shall then
throw him on a cart and twice tare his flesh with
hot tongs then he shall bring him to the city
gate and there torture his flesh in the same
manner. The other men in the group shall be
executed by sword, and the women, including
Margaretha, shall be executed by drowning.
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WHY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS

1. HISTORICALLY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS
2. DOCTRINALLY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS
3. PRACTICALLY BAPTISTS ARE NOT PROTESTANTS