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FINANCIAL ELIGIBILITYFINANCIAL
ELIGIBILITY FOR WISCONSINS LONG TERM CARE
PROGRAMS WISCONSINS LONG TERM CARE
PROGRAMS
  • Betsy Abramson
  • Disability Rights Wisconsin
  • August 2009

2
Medicaid Eligibility Handbook
  • http//www.emhandbooks.wi.gov/meh-ebd/
  • Ch. 15 Income
  • Ch. 16 Assets
  • Ch. 17 Divestment
  • Ch. 18 Spousal Impoverishment
  • Ch. 28 Home and Community-Based Waivers
  • Ch. 29 Family Care Long-Term Care

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General Medicaid Eligibility? Medicaid Waiver
Eligibility
  • Different income limits.
  • ?Three different sets Category A, Category B,
  • and Category C
  • Asset limits
  • If have a spouse who is not applying for waivers
  • or in an institution, spousal impoverishment
    protections available ?
  • NOTE Estate Recovery applies.

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INCOME LIMITS Category A
  • SSI, SSI-E, Section 1619 benefits,
    widow/widowers benefits, 503 cases and
    disabled adult children.
  • NOTE Automatically eligible for COP-Waiver
  • ? No cost-share liability towards cost of
    services.?

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INCOME LIMITS Category B
  • Special income limit of 300 of federal SSI
    benefit rate.
  • 674 X 3 2,022 per month in 2009.
  • May have a cost-share. Depends on income
    deductions and allowances, medical/remedial
    expenses, and whether a spousal impoverishment
    situation

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INCOME LIMITS Category C
  • Income above the 2,022/month but
  • Many many Income deductions and medical/remedial
    expenses bring down their countable income
    below current medially needy MA income limit
    591.67
  • EXAMPLE Individual with 2,422 month has
    spenddown of 2,422.00 - 591.67 1,830.33 per
    month
  • The spenddown is their cost-share.

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What is Unearned Income? 1/2
  • Income from Trusts
  • Sick Benefits
  • Unemployment Compensation
  • Retirement Benefits
  • General Relief and Charity
  • Gifts
  • Land Contract
  • Loans
  • Interest Income
    ..and..

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What is Unearned Income? 2/2
  • Social Security Benefits
  • Lump Sum Payment
  • Money for School
  • Child Support
  • Profit-Sharing
  • Income Received by Member of Religious Order
  • Federal Match Grants for Refugees
  • Gambling Winnings
  • Payments to Native Americans

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INCOME EXEMPTIONS
  • Major Exemptions
  • First 20 disregarded
  • Part of wages
  • Only counts (Total Monthly Wages 65) / 2
  • Wage amount counted
  • Example If wages 465/month, then
  • (465 65) / 2 only 200 counts
  • Many others Some examples Adoption, Agent
    orange, Combat..Kinship.Payments to Nazi
    Victims..Susan Walker PaymentsVA Allowances.W2
    Payments, American Recovery and Reinvestment Act
    of 2009.

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ASSETS
  • Limits
  • 2,000 for individual
  • 3,000 for couple if both applying
  • If only one spouse applying
  • See Spousal
    Impoverishment

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EXEMPT ASSETS Examples
  • (These dont count against the limit)
  • Primary residence ? up to 750,000 equity
  • One auto, ? if used for transportation by
    applicant or household member
  • Personal possessions and home furnishings ?
  • Wedding and engagement rings
  • Equipment used for self-support
  • Life Insurance up to 1,500 otherwise
  • Term insurance in any amount (no cash value)
  • Burial see next

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EXEMPT ASSETS
  • Burial Assets
  • Up to 3,000 in irrevocable burial trust
  • Interest can also be made irrevocable and thus
    exempt
  • Pre-paid burial spaces in any amount
  • Plots, caskets, values, crypts, mausoleums,
    urns, niches, headstones, plaques,
    opening/closing arrangements. And for other
    family members!
  • 1,500 separately identifiable revocable burial
    fund. If so, offsets funds permitted in IBT.
  • Life-insurance funded burial arrangements

13
Divestment
  • Giving away or transferring non-exempt assets, or
    the home in some situations, for less than FMV.
  • Lookback period FIVE YEARS
  • Penalty Period Starts when assets otherwise
    spent down.
  • Ex.
  • Giving grandchildren large gifts at b-days,
    holidays?
  • Giving money to adult kids for downpayment?
  • Paying for a kids wedding?
  • Contributing to grandkids college?
  • Bailing adult kids out of debt, trouble?

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Divestment Lots of specific rules
  • Annuities
  • Life estates
  • Promissory Notes, Loans or Mortgages
  • Partial Month Divestments
  • Partial Refunds
  • CCRC entrance fees
  • Intent
  • Undue Hardship

  • See next slides

15
Intent to Divest?
  • Not divestment if can prove
  • Had made other arrangements to provide for LTC
  • Life expectancy at transfer was less than 5 years
  • No expectation of LTC needed for next 5 years
  • Had pattern of charitable giving or to family
    members (prior to look-back period) AND annual
    gifts less than 15 of gross income.
  • Ffor educational or vocational goals of family
  • Is support of dependent relatives living with them

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Divestment Undue Hardship
  • Penalty period waived if imposition deprives
    individual of
  • Medical care such that health or life would be
    endangered or
  • Food, clothing, shelter or other necessities of
    life
  • Generally must request within 20 days of notice
  • Special Required Documentation
  • Notice of discharge from facility or
  • Costs of needed LTC services compared to income
    and assets

17
Divestment WARNING!
  • Complicated
  • Significant potential consequences
  • Client should get good legal advice from
    experienced knowledgeable counselor

18
Spousal Impoverishment
  • Old days (pre-1989) Spouse without LTC needs
    went broke, too.
  • Now protects income and assets of spouse who
  • - is not in institution
  • - not on COP/CIP/ FC, etc.
  • Only for legally married spouses. Not partners.
    Not adult kids.

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Spousal Impoverishment Assets
  • Dont count exempt assets.
  • Then, regardless of name on title

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Practice Examples
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Spousal Impoverishment Income
  • Non-MA spouse keeps ALL income in own name
  • Can get allocation from MA spouses income to
    bring her income up to lower of 2,739 or
    2,428.33 plus excess shelter allowance
  • Excess Shelter Allowance amount above 728 for
    mortgage/rent, taxes, maintenance fees and
    utility allowance

22
Example George and Laura
  • George on Family Care Laura not
  • Georges income
  • 845 Social Security
  • 1200 Pension
  • 1000 Monthly speakers fees

  • TOTAL 2045/month
  • Lauras income
  • 600 Social Security
  • 400 Librarian pension TOTAL 1,000/month
  • Mortgage and utilities are 1,228

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Lauras allocation
  • ESE is 1,228 - 728 500
  • Laura gets some of Georges income, to BRING HER
    UP to lesser of 2,739 or 2,428.33 500 so,
    2,739
  • Georges 2,045 - 45 for him 2,000 available
  • George can allocate to Laura 1,739
  • Now Laura has 1,739 her 1,000 2,739
  • Note! If George didnt have 1,739, State doesnt
    subsidize.

24
Estate Recovery and Liens
  • Applies to benefits recd in
  • All ages NHs since 10/91
  • Inpatient hospital benefits after 7/95 if
    institutionalized recipients
  • Age 55 Skilled nursing, home health aide,
    therapies, private duty nursing, personal care
    (since 4/2000)
  • Waiver (COP, CIP, Brain Injury, FC) since 2/2000

25
Methods of Recovery
  • Happens after death of recipient
  • ONLY AFTER DEATH
  • Claims in Probate Estates
  • Liens on homes

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When no recovery or lien
  • If is a surviving spouse
  • If a surviving disabled child
  • If surviving minor child
  • If surviving blind child

27
Estate Recovery After
  • Cost of administering the estate
  • Funeral Costs
  • Costs of last illness

28
Heirs Can Keep
  • Decedents wearing apparel and jewelry
  • Household furniture, furnishings and appliances
  • Other tangible personal property under 3,000
    not cash of 3,000

29
Waivers of Claim Undue Hardship
  • Heir or beneficiary would become eligible or
    remain eligible for SSI, FS, AFDC, MA
  • Estate contains real estate used as part of heir
    or beneficiarys business
  • Heir or beneficiary is receiving general relief
    or veterans benefits based on need.

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Liens
  • On homes, but NOT PLACED on home of a recipient
    in community
  • NOT PLACED ON HOME OF RECIPIENT IN COMMUNITY !!!
  • Prior notification required
  • Only if recipient not reasonably expected to
    return home and if none of these in home
  • Certain caregiving adult child at least 24 months
    before
  • Sibling who continuously lived there at least 12
    months before admission

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Examples
  • Fred and Wilma
  • Will and Grace
  • Homer and Bart
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