Title: May 2005 Musings on Finance
1May 2005 Musings on Finance
- J. Bradford DeLong
- U.C. Berkeley and NBER
- http//www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/
- May 26, 2005 GARP San Francisco Chapter
2A Macroeconomists Look at Finance
- Is this useful?
- Macro possibly a fraudulent enterprise--an
epicyclic set of just-so stories about past
events that has no predictive power - I have confidence because of three calls in the
past decade deficit reduction in the mid-1990s,
the need to cut interest rates rapidly when the
NASDAQ crashed in 2000, European stagnation - But I may be deluding myself
- And, in any event, finance is different from
macro - Very possible to get the macro right and still
get the finance wrong.
3Here to Make Three Relatively Disconnected Points
- Points that I, at least, think are interesting
- Point I the dot-com bubble was not that large
- Point II its very hard to be too optimistic
about the very long-run outlook for equities - And probably for debt as well
- Point III I simply cannot make the medium
term--three to ten years--add up
4The Dot-Com Bubble
- Looks impressive
- Backed up by impressive stories
- Palm and 3Com
- George Gilder my new subscribers will be very
sad - Lets do some calculations
5The Bubble Started Relatively Late
- Conventional accounts start with the 1995
Netscape IPO - But investors in the Netscape IPO did very well
indeed in the long run that was the companys
independent histor - And do well today
- Those who invested in the Nasdaq in September
1995 and shadowed the index have earned real
returns to date of 7.3 percent per year. - At the end of 1996 Alan Greenspan was worried
- "How do we know when irrational exuberance has
unduly escalated asset values? - If you had invested in the Nasdaq while Mr
Greenspan was writing his speech, you would have
realised a real return from then until now of 8.1
per cent per year. - The answer to Greenspans implicit question of
December 1996--"Are asset prices unduly escalated
by irrational exuberance?" -- was No.
6Broadly, Bad News for High-Tech Since 2000
- Since the start of 2000, the Nasdaq has been hit
by two particular pieces of bad news - the September 11 2001 terror attack
- that it has turned out to be surprisiingly hard
to transform technical excellence in information
and communications technology into durable
profits. - The major beneficiaries of high-tech innovation
since 2000 have not been the workers,
entrepreneurs and financiers of Silicon Valley,
but users of their products and ideas - The beneficiaries are companies like
Wal-Mart--both its shareholders and its customers - These two pieces of fundamental bad news were
unknowable in the late 1990s
7So When Did the Bubble Start? A Yardstick
- We need a yardstick
- We demand higher than average expected equity
returns from a risky index like the Nasdaq - We also suspect that actual returns have fallen
- Guess that these factors cancel each other out
- Realized Nasdaq real returns drop below 3 percent
per year starting in October 1998 - Drop below zero starting in November 1998.
- Drop below 6.5 per year starting in April 1997
8How Big Was the Bubble?
- Conclusion A bubble that lasts for at most three
years, and possibly only one and a half. - Does this mean Mr. Market is smart, or Mr. Market
is dumb? You can spin it either way - With
- Rapid technological change
- Very uncertain long-term consequences
- A population of investors vulnerable to
irrational exuberance - Even so, the market was still cranking out
reasonable valuations until mid-1997 or
late-1998--even though observers like Greenspan
were very worried - Alternatively, if you believed Dow 36,000 and
bought the Nasdaq at its February 2000 peak - Even with the recovery since late 2002, you are
still down by half in real value
9A Few Words About the Very Long-Term Outlook
- Current equity earnings yields of roughly 5.3
- Jeremy Siegel says subtract half a
percentage-point for options and other water in
the numbers - Hard to see how from this starting point American
equities can match their historical 6.5-7.0
real return - However, accounting earnings yields are not
returns - Companies with strong market positions can earn
very high rates of return on reinvested earnings
if economic growth is rapid
10Will Very Long Run Economic Growth Be Rapid?
- The ongoing demographic transition says
labor-force growth wont be that high - Disagreements about the long-run productivity
outlook - Robert Gordon sees more of the 20th Century same
- SSA sees substantial slowing
- In either case, total growth unlikely to match
20th Century pace
11Impact of Slower Growth on Asset Returns
- Econ 1-level analysis--but thats all it needs
- Supply of capital by this generation of savers
- Demand for capital by next generation of
businesses - Depends strongly on rate of economic growth
between then and now - Slower growth moves demand for capital inward
- Produces lower asset returns
- Danger this is a macroeconomic model
- Calibration knocks two percentage points off
returns
12Ways Out?
- Reduced savings
- Because of feckless fiscal policy and large
deficits - But this slows growth as well
- Bequests
- People with fewer children save less because they
dont have as many bequests to leave - Greg Mankiw thinks this counterbalances the
effects of slowed labor-force growth - Greg Mankiw has drunk the koolaid
- Large-scale capital exports
- Huge trade surpluses
- Britain did it in the 1890s. Maybe we will do it
in the 2040s - But this is a scenario, not a forecast
13The Medium Run Conundrum Domestic Side
- Why arent long-term interest rates higher?
- The savings-investment imbalance in the
flow-of-funds - Low personal savings plus big government budget
deficits - Normal investment
- Someday the capital inflow will end
- Bond markets ought to be pricing the end of the
capital inflow now - They arent
14The Medium-Run Conundrum International Side
- Countries with big trade deficits ultimately see
the values of their currencies fall - U.S. has a big trade deficit--7 of GDP
- Required currency value fall at full employment
from 30 to 70, depending on the model - U.S. interest rates ought to have this expected
depreciation premium built into them - They dont
15Alternative Views of This Conundrum
- Macroeconomists freak out
- Alan Greenspan and company speak of a
conundrum - Finance people arent as puzzled
- Treasury isnt printing long-term bonds
- Mortgage-backed securities arent of incredibly
long duration right now - China and Japan parking huge amounts of reserves
in long-term Treasuries and close substitutes - Should we be puzzled?
- Our macroeconomic bond market models
- Key off of short-term interest rates, and off of
term-structure and interest-parity relationships - Requires that somebody--a lot of somebodies--be
trading on those term-structure and
interest-parity relationships on a very large
scale in order to make them true - Apparently, people arent doing so does this
mean there is money on the table?