Title: CPSY 6222 Theodicy
1CPSY 6222Theodicy
- Jay M. Uomoto, Ph.D.
- Seattle Pacific University
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3Introductions
- Background
- Who are you?
- Class ground rules
- Group ground rules
4Theodicy
- Introductions
- Logistics/Syllabus/Review of Books
- Objectives
- Overview of philosophical and theological issues
- Underscore the interface of theodicy and life
- Relationship between theodicy and spirituality
- Importance of theodicy in counseling
- Course Assignments
- Group Assignments
5Theodicy
- When you think of this topic what terms come to
mind and what stereotypes do you have of these
terms? - Evil
- Suffering
- Death
- Pain
- Other Nasty Terms
6Theodicy
- Theo God
- dike justice
- Problems
- Evil and suffering co-exist with a Benevolent God
- Omniscient, Omnipresent God and the allowance of
evil in the world - Evil is moral rebellion against God - contrary to
the will of God - Moral dilemma for which there are multiple
responses with no unified or agreed upon solution - Philosophical debates without an end or answer
Akin to the Can God make a stone so big that He
cannot lift it debate
7Theodicy - Premises
- We must be influenced by another god
- Contingent universe is flawed
- God has limited omnipotence or purposely limits
the influence of His omnipotence remains a
mystery to us
- There is only one God
- God created the world
- God is Omnipotent
8Theodicy - Premises
- God is personal
- God is perfectly good
- God suffers with us in the evils that are
perpetrated against us - Evil exists for an overriding concern or benefit
evil is a means to a good end
9Evil and Suffering
- Evil as process act, condition, behavior
- Evil as entity
- Suffering as outcome, impact of the act or
condition - The terrorist attack was evil. It accorded a
great deal of suffering - Key What occurs next in the sequence?
10Evil and Suffering
- Anthropomorphize evil
- World Trade Center attacks
11Evil and Suffering
Compassion
EVIL
Grace
SUFFERING
Altruism
12Evil
- William L.Rowe (2001). God and the Problem of
Evil. - Evil Undeserved Suffering
- Two Types of Undeserved Suffering
- A five-year-old girls being brutally beaten,
raped, and strangled - a fawns being horribly burned in a forest
fire, lying for five days on the forest floor
before death relieves its suffering. - Moral Evil
- Natural Evil
13Teleology of Theodicy
Theodicy Argument (Philosophical Theology)
Evil and Suffering (Content and
Experiential Knowledge / Datum of Theodicy)
Spiritual Experience of Theodicy (Dark Night to
Shed Light)
Hope and Eschatology
14Historical Foundations
- Gottfried W. Leibniz - Introduced the term
theodicy into philosophy - Introduced as a part of natural theology -
positive proofs for the existence and attributes
of God - Theodicies seek an understanding of the nature
and attributes of God - Theodicy as a science - exercise of reason to
systematically arrange the content of our
knowledge about God
15Historical Foundations
- Theodicy more than philosophical musings
- T. F. Torrence
- Student of Karl Barth
- Theological science
- Felt that once entering into the discussion about
God, you have entered holy ground. It is no
longer abstract - Discussion of theodicy - less an intellectual
task personal theological task
16Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz(1646 1716)
- German mathematician, diplomat, philosopher
- Coined the term theodicy in the 1690s, never
defined it.
17Other Views
- Kenneth Cauthen, Professor of Theology,
Colgate-Rochester/Crozer Theological Seminary - Four Faces of Evil
- Injustice
- Demonic
- Tragic
- Ambiguous
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19Current Views of Theodicy
- Theism
- the belief that the world was created by an
omnipotent and perfectly good personal being
(Davis - p.2) - 5 facets of theistic belief
- There is one God (monotheism)
- God created the world (world is contingent)
- God is omnipotent
- God is personal (conscious being who desires a
relationship) - God is perfectly good
20Current Views on Theodicy
- The problem of evil occurs in the context of
theistic beliefless so with a non-theistic
belief - Conversely, a punishing universe paradigm
allows for evil and suffering to co-exist fairly
easily - Is God willing to prevent evil but is unable?
- Is God unwilling to prevent evil for some greater
good? - The problem of evil posses a challenge to the
existence of God power evidence against (p.4)
21Theodicy of Protest
- John K. Roth
- Gods sovereignty disappointment with human
wrong - Quarrels or protests Gods use of His power
- Defiance crucial in struggles against despair
- Death of God movement as conclusion or succumbing
to a powerless God concept - no protest
22Theodicy of Protest
- Camus ..man is not entirely to blame (in The
Rebel)it was not he who started history - Sophies Choice accuses God and rightly so (p.
13) - Protesting theodicy hears futile cries
- Despair highlights potential progress toward the
Kingdom of God (p.15)
23Theodicy of Protest
- Human freedom still at the core
- History refutes more than confirms Gods
providential care (p.17) - A suffering God? What is going on? (Protest)
- Jobs protest is the context of trust v. mistrust
(a tension) - Being for AND against God
- Matt 2746 - Eloi, eloi
24Theodicy of Protest
- Protest invokes a deeper compassion, a
splagnizomai (viscera). - Human condition and that around us is far worse
than is comprehensible. - Yearning for the refusal to settle for despair
that the first feeling generates (p.20) - Psalms are chuck full of this yearning
- Disharmony intensifies concern for moral goodness
(p.31)
25Irenaen Theodicy
- John Hick
- Whereas, Augustinian approach
- Falleness free will accounts for evil but
preserves Gods omnipotence - Majority report
- Irenaean approach
- Immature moral creatures in a person-making world
- Minority report
26Irenaen Theodicy
- St. Irenaeus (AD 120 - 202)
- Image as potentiality for knowledge of and
relationship with ones Maker (p.41) - Likeness - perfection in future, not past
perfection (cf. Adam and Eve account) - Distance (p.43)
- Continuity with the creaturely
- Eschatological emphasis - bound for Glory
- Perfected finite persons in the eschaton
- Freedom to acknowledge God
27Irenaean Theodicy
- Immature creatures express sins (p.45)
- Sinful nature in a sinful world
- Moral evils versus non-moral evils. Both result
in pain and suffering - Action/acting and engagement in negotiating evils
and moral development part of the person-making
process (cf. Kitty Experiment, p. 47)
28Irenaen Theodicy
- Morally wrong act - harms community
- Pain and suffering pose moral choices
- P.48
- We can freely respond to Gods non-coercive
self-disclosures.(p.51) - Evil presence and utility in soul-making
- Critique (Sontag) If God designed this training
program, we need a new coach (p.56) - Critique (Griffin) Are things getting better?
- Critique (Roth) Too good to be true (p.63)
29Free Will and Evil
- Stephen T. Davis
- God is wholly good
- LPE vs. EPE
- LPE with FWD - runs risk that people will choose
evil - Amount of evil is outweighed by the good - does
not require an account for every evil that occurs
within an omnipotent God world view.
30Free Will and Evil
- Key
- All the evil that exists in the world is due to
the choices of free moral agents whom God
created, and no other world which God could have
created would have had a better balance of good
over evil than the actual world will have.
(p.72).
31Free Will and Evil
- Emotive Problem of Evil
- God is omnipotent God is Good Evil Exists
- Hard to believe!
- Albert Camus and Elie Wiesel would protest this
position - Still the best balance. Is a cancerless world
and loss of freedom of moral agency as good of
balance? - Is freedom cost-effective?
- Why did God create the Hitlers of the world or
allow the Hitlers of the world exist? Davis
leaves to mysteryonly God knows.
32Clinical Implications?
33Barth and das Nichtige
- It is true that in creation there is not only a
Yes but also a No not only a height but also an
abyss not only clarity but also obscurity not
only progress and continuation but also
impediment and limitation not only growth but
also decay not only opulence but also indigence
not only beauty but also ashes not only
beginning but also end not only value by also
worthlessness - Church Dogmatics, III/3
34Barth and das Nichtige
- das Nichtige - nothingness
- It is what God does not choose
- Not just non-being
- It constitutes an incomprehensible menace to
creation - (Larrimore - The Problem of Evil) - For there to be a das Nichtige, there must also
be life and creation. - Paradox is an inherent characteristic of God
- Gods grace and compassion upholds a contingent
universe in which its inherent dynamic structure
is that of paradox
35Personal Theodicy
- Personal theodicy is shaped by life experience
- Experience of trauma shapes world views
- Experience of trauma shapes ones opinions about
the attributes of God - Brushes with theodicy
- Conclusions made of these brushes
- Theodicy changes ones life
36Personal Theodicy
- Deductive versus Inductive analysis of personal
theodicy - Personal spirituality shapes personal theodicy
The Dark Night of the Soul - Requires an appreciation for the many faces of
evil - Requires an intimate knowledge of suffering
- Theodicy as a Lived Question (Todd Billings)
- Theodicy or The Odyssey
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38Community Theology and Theodicy
- Karl Barth Church Dogmatics (III,2)
- Christ as a starting point God-man
- Christology precedes anthropology
- Being human as covenant-partner through Christ
- Fellow-humanity as ontic manifestation of our
covenant-partnership with God - Christ is in community
- Start with Christology before talking Theodicy
39Community Theology and Theodicy
- Deddo (1994) Scottish J of Theology, 47, 183-222.
- Escatological rejoiner
- Being human involves a constant striving for
complete and personal communion with God - Movement against entropy by existing as
fellow-humanity - Evil is movement toward entropy, distances us
from the escaton.
40Community Theology and Theodicy
- Dietrich Bonhoeffer Creation and Fall
- Genesis creation account
- Male and female he created them
- it is in this dependence on the other that his
creatureliness consists. - Community as reality evil produces disordered
community suffering is the by-product of
disordered community
41Community Theology and Theodicy
- Emil Brunner Man in Revolt A Christian
Anthropology - Significance of the imago Dei
- Selfhood can only be understood in the context of
community - Christ in community
- Dynamic of reconciliation and healing
- Standing with and for the other
- Evil stands without and against the other
42Community Theology and Theodicy
- Ray S. Anderson On Being Human
- Creatureliness continuity across phyla
- Disordered creatureliness can limit human
potential, but does not in itself determine it. - Community is an ontic reality
- Distortion/destruction of community
in-humanity.
43Community Theology and Theodicy
- Christ-in-Community is the ordered state of
humanity there is hope and a future orientation
to all events - Christ-in-Community reminds us of the God-man,
who suffered with the cry of Eloi, Eloiwhy hast
thou forsaken me - Axiom I Theodicy will always involve the
community, or broken community. - Axion II Theodicy is always interpersonal