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Title: The Twin Paradox How To Win The Debate


1
The Twin Paradox/How To WinThe Debate
2
The Twin Paradox Brief Background
  • Einstein derives symmetric time dilation
  • Therefore, if two clocks start together and one
    makes a round trip, a net proper time difference
    (NPTD) will result
  • Quickly led to the Clock Paradox - How Does One
    Get An Asymmetric Effect From Symmetric Causes?

3
How has the Debate Been Handled?
  • Mainstream There is no paradox or problem
  • Wikipedia Echoes That View I tried to enter one
    line in Twin Paradox article about Dingle and was
    burned at the stake
  • Mainstream Accepts a wide variety of
    reconciliation arguments (RAs) many of which
    are mutually exclusive

4
  • Post Dingle Papers rebutting any of these RAs
    are explicitly banned from mainstream journals
  • 1-On-1 debates with professors are unsatisfactory
  • Confident in their position even if they were
    backed into a corner, they resort to You dont
    understand SRT

5
New Technique For Debating Twin Paradox
  • Get opponent to convince himself by his own
    statements
  • For each class of RA, get opponent to answer
    specific, non-controversial questions up front
  • Keep opponent from mixing observed time with
    proper time - limit discussion to pairs of
    events and the associated proper time Dont
    compare travelers proper time to Stay-At-Homes
    clock readings

6
  • Ask opponent to specify how much proper time
    accumulates for each segment of the traveling
    twins round trip
  • After opponent has defined his position in
    detail, ask him to address specific problems
  • Optional Slightly modified scenarios

7
RA 1 NPTD Accumulates During Constant Velocity
Segments
  • Cause is relative velocity or relative
    simultaneity which are symmetric
  • Mixes Observed Time with Proper Time
  • Unconscious Assumption that Starting Frame is
    Unique Frame

8
Key Up Front Points
  • 1/2 the NPTD accumulates in outbound and 1/2 in
    inbound
  • The NPTD accumulates smoothly
  • All clocks in a frame tick at the same rate
  • If a clock accumulates a NPTD versus one clock in
    another frame, then it also accumulates the
    same NPTD versus all other clocks in that other
    inertial frame

9
Sample Scenario
  • V 0.866c, time dilation factor ½
  • Stay-At-Home 200,000,000,000 ticks
  • Traveler 50,000,000,000 out in
  • Periods of acceleration made arbitrarily small
    wrt constant velocity segments

10
Twin Paradox Scenario Events
  • E1-E2 (Travelers outbound trip)
    E3
  • ?V----------------------------------------------
    ----------------V?
  • S(Stay-At-Home remains at rest )
    E4
  • ?V----------------------------------------------
    ----------------V?
  • E7-E6 (Travelers inbound trip)
    E5

11
Argument
  • Agreeing that NPTD accumulates equally and
    smoothly for constant velocity segments implies
    that the clock in the T-out frame loses proper
    time vs all clocks in S for all of E2-E3
  • However, if one adds a 2nd Twin Paradox scenario
    where T-out now also plays the role of the
    stay-at-home twin and the new traveling triplet
    is at rest in S during the outbound leg and the
    whole 2nd scenario begins at E2 and ends at E3,
    then RA 1 leads to a contradictory conclusion
    that the T-out clock gains vs all clocks in S for
    part of E2-E3 

12
Optional Argument
  • Replace initial acceleration (E1-E2) with
    arbitrarily near miss
  • Then for the outbound constant velocity segment,
    the time dilation effect occurs before one
    determines who will be the traveling twin!?!

13
RA 2 NPTD Accumulates During Turnaround
Acceleration
  • Cause is asymmetric, turnaround acceleration,
    changing frames, virtual gravitational field, or
    rel. simultaneity
  • NPTD calculations use distance of separation
    between twins at turnaround

14
Key Up Front Points
  • 1/2 the NPTD accumulates in E3-E4 and 1/2 in
    E4-E5
  • All clocks in a frame tick at the same rate
  • If a clock accumulates a NPTD versus one clock in
    another frame, then it also accumulates the
    same NPTD versus all other clocks in that other
    inertial frame

15
Argument Fill In Table
16
Optional Argument
  • Add a 2nd scenario, also starting in S with T
    accelerating to 0.866c, but have 1/10th the
    duration and arrange it so the turnaround for
    both scenarios will be at virtually the same
    place and time
  • Ask, How can same turnaround parameters yield
    radically different effects?

17
RA 3 Minkowski Spacetime, Invariance of the
Interval
  • RA 3 is really RA 1 its just the relative
    velocity argument in disguise
  • SRTs Time Dilation Equation is used with an
    implied meaning thats compatible with LAT not
    SRT
  • Mixes Observed Time and Proper Time

18
Notes
  • http//TwinParadox.net (all the details)
  • Designed Experiment Where Traveling Twin Gains
    Proper Time
  • NPA Sponsored (Public) Debate

19
Part IIImplications For SRT Observations
From A Long Odyssey
20
Thoughts From My Odyssey
  • Physical, Asymmetric Time Dilation As A Function
    of Velocity WRT A Unique Frame Is The Only Viable
    Cause For the NPTD
  • Tried To Derive Alternative to SRT And
    (unknowingly) Derived LAT-like (w/o ether)
    -Called it ESRT
  • LAT-like physical spacetime model underlies SRTs
    observed spacetime models

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SRT LAT Predict Same Results
  • In the Twin Paradox, no matter what frame is used
    as the starting frame, relative velocity predicts
    same NPTD as LATs absolute velocity
  • For a Wide Range of Phenomena, SRT and LAT
    predict same results
  • Tried To Define Experiment Where LAT Was Right
    vs SRT Very Difficult- An Exception Selleris
    Sagnac Experiment

22
Same Results For Kinematics
  • For LAT/ESRT, the concept of absolute kinetic
    energy is used
  • In a collision, the total amount of absolute
    kinetic energy may differ from total amount of
    relative kinetic energy, but conservation laws
    make it so that the amount of available energy
    for particle creation is the same

23
Machian View
  • LAT time dilation a function of difference in
    absolute kinetic energy
  • Same phenomenon as GRT time dilation as a
    function of difference in grav. pot.
  • Absolute kinetic energy is f(Absolute Motion wrt
    mass/energy configuration)

24
Modified SRT
  • Remove Last Three Paragraphs of Einsteins 1905
    SRT paper most paradoxes/problems disappear as
    they are now outside the domain of SRT
  • 2nd Postulate becomes The speed of light is
    observed to be c by all inertial observers

25
Modified SRT
  • 1st Postulate becomes The mathematical form of
    the laws of physics for observations are
    invariant in all inertial systems
  • Interestingly, for LAT/ESRT, the mathematical
    form remains the same, but the meaning changes

26
Lorentz Geometry (LG)
  • LG can describe SRT view where each observer
    observes himself to be in the unique frame where
    all other frames seem to have slower clocks and
    shorter (in the direction of motion) meter sticks
  • Alternatively, LG can describe LAT view of there
    being a unique frame where all other frames
    actually have slower clocks, etc.

27
My Conclusion
  • (Modified) SRT LAT-Like Theory Both Correct
    But Cover Different Domains
  • LAT describes physical spacetime which is
    obscured cant even tell which is the unique
    frame
  • SRT describes how each observer observes
    spacetime is derivable from LAT/ESRT

28
Prokhovnik, Builder, Frankl
  • Some Otherwise Respected Physicists Have Come
    To Similar Conclusions
  • Frankl starts with classical Doppler Effect as
    f(velocities wrt medium) and uses Relativitys
    Addition of (observed) Velocities to derive
    relativistic Doppler Effect for 2D (Am. J. Phys,
    52(4), April 1984)

29
How has the Debate Been Handled?
  • NPA is to SRT as physics comm. is to LAT (Not in
    Video Conferences, but in email discussions,
    etc.)
  • All anti-SRT attacks accepted, all defenses
    automatically rejected
  • Principle 9 There is not a shred of evidence
    even claimed to exist as confirmation of the
    reciprocity feature of SR Really???????

30
E.G., Dividing By Zero
31
  • Work Formula NOT key to deriving SRT
  • Not dividing by zero since, in SRT, v cant equal
    c
  • Even if v could equal c that does not
    automatically invalidate whole theory, but just
    for that special case

32
Something To Think About
  • At the very least, SRT So Often Gives The Right
    Answer It Must Point to Some Very Significant
    Property of Spacetime
  • Being Dismissive Blinds One to that Clue
  • Easier To Sell To Mainstream

33
References
  • AN ASYMMETRIC MODEL OF SPACE-TIME BUILT ON
    LORENTZ GEOMETRY AND THE RESULTING EXTENSIONS OF
    SPECIAL RELATIVITY (Physics Essays Vol 7 2 ,
    1994)
  • A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF THE TWIN PARADOX REQUIRES
    AN EXTENSION OF SPECIAL RELATIVITY  The Twin
    Paradox Analyzed Using Two Different Space-Time
    Models (Physics Essays Vol 8 1 , 1995)

34
  • Special Relativity Inconsistent Or Just
    Incomplete (A Reply To McCauslands Reply)
    (Physics Essays Vol 11 1 , 1998)
  • The Extension of Special Relativity Algebraic
    Equivalence For Observations Plus A New
    Prediction" (Physics Essays Vol 12 4 , 1999)
  • Correcting The Flaw In Special Relativity That
    Leads To The Twin Paradox Reflections on a
    Debate With I. J. Good And I. McCausland (Physics
    Essays Vol 13 4 , 2000)

35
  • A Very Doable Experiment for NASA to Look Inside
    the Twin Paradox (Physics Essays Vol. 19 1,
    2006)
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