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Title: European Council of General Aviation Support


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European Council of General Aviation Support
Presentation to EASA DOA Workshop - 7th Nov 2006
Dassault Aviation Saint- Cloud Paris France
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What is ECOGAS?
  • ECOGAS is the European Council of General
    Aviation Support
  • ECOGAS comprises of the National General
    Aviation Associations and Commercial
    Organisations based in Europe
  • These Associations represent commercial General
    Aviation companies
  • General Aviation is that aviation outside
    military or major airline operations
  • ECOGAS was founded in 1988 by Gerard Pic (in
    France) and Danny Forman (in UK)

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Objectives of ECOGAS
  • Co-operation and exchange of information between
    members
  • Representation of common interests to national
    and European Authorities
  • Co-operation with other European Associations in
    General Aviation
  • Expand General Aviation within Europe

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Co-operation Other European Associations
  • Co-operation with
  • European Business Aviation Association (EBAA)
  • European Regional Airlines Association (ERA)
  • International Aircraft Owners and Pilots
    Association (IAOPA)
  • European Association of Airline Pilots Schools
    (EAAPS)
  • Europe Airsports

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What is the General Aviation Industry?
  • Design Manufacture
  • Modification, including avionics installations
  • Maintenance
  • Supply of parts
  • Support services
  • Operations and flight training
  • New used aircraft sales

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Size of Industry in Europe EU 15
  • Approximately
  • 29,000 single engine piston aircraft
  • 4,000 multi engine piston aircraft
  • 150 single engine turboprop
  • 1,000 multi engine turboprop
  • 2,000 jets
  • ECOGAS members represent the interests of around
    1,000 companies
  • Companies from SME to multinational

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For Todays DOA Workshop
  • General Aviation is defined as
  • CS Part 23 Aircraft below 5,700Kg
  • VLA
  • It is important to remember that Existing
  • GA Companies are all Small or SMEs
  • New start up projects must also be
  • considered

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The Presentation will follow the Question
Sequence of EASAs The Future of DOA
Questionnaire to Industry
  • Some Perceived Problems are Identified and
    Suggestions are offered to help offset these.

9
Question 1
  • Are you satisfied with the current DOA concept
    as applied today ? If no, describe areas where
    the existing concept is seen as inefficient or
    doesnt provide the necessary flexibility,

10
Question 1 Response
  • Answer No
  • The financial burden for the acquisition and
    maintenance of a DOA for Small Companies and SMEs
    is significant (prohibitive to a new company)
  • This is compounded by having to employ sufficient
    people to meet the full range of skills demanded.
    Possibly justifiable for Large, CS 25,
    Manufacturers, but not the much smaller CS 23 and
    VLA companies.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • It is important to remember that the main
    competition comes from the USA where the concept
    of DOA does not exist.
  • In the USA an experimental category aircraft can
    be built and flown with comparative ease and
    minimal cost.
  • Experimental Category also allows a Proof of
    Concept aircraft to be built and flown before
    embarking on a Type Certification programme.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • The services of the FAA for example when
    demonstrating compliance with FAR 23 for Type
    Certification or STC are free.
  • For these reasons at least two new GA Design
    Projects are known to have gone to the USA in the
    last few years.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • It is essential we do what we can to encourage
    new GA projects in Europe they provide the
    ideal breeding ground for new engineers to learn
    an gain experience in addition to creating
    commercial opportunities.
  • It is also important to minimise the overhead
    cost burden of airworthiness to European General
    Aviation companies to enable them to be
    competitive with the American market.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • Proposal 1
  • Allow Small/SME companies greater freedom to
    nominate third party organisations, or
    consultants, to supplement their full time Design
    Team on an as and when required basis. This
    reduces the risk of employing under utilised full
    time specialists.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • Proposal 2
  • For new General Aviation projects by start up
    companies, establish an equivalent to the USA
    Experimental Category to allow the production of
    a Proof of Concept prototype without a DOA(or
    POA).
  • Once the Prototype has been proven, allow for
    steady growth towards DOA as the Project
    develops.

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Question 1 Response contd
  • Proposal 3
  • For small non complex aircraft develop a self
    regulatory system employing suitably qualified
    and experienced people in Trade Bodies, Voluntary
    Member Groups and Companies ?
  • An MDM 032 consideration ?

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Question 2
  • How are responsibilities/liabilities
    currently established in your organisation
    between DOA holder and sub-contractors ?
    Describe
  • How delegation of certification tasks are made,
    if any
  • What interfaces are present to control such
    delegation
  • How liability is addressed.

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Question 2 Response
  • Very difficult for a Trade Association to comment
    but typically in small companies internal
    delegation relies a conventional management
    organigram linked to the CVE structure. Use of
    external contractors seems to be kept to a
    minimum, preferring to bring people in-house when
    required.
  • This minimalist structure seems to suit small and
    SME companies.

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Question 3
  • How are current Type Certification documents
    and data required for continuing airworthiness
    controlled ? Describe what control mechanisms
    are in place by the TC applicant to delegate and
    control documentation.

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Question 3 Response
  • Small and SME companies typically use a
    controlled centralised Filing System for all
    documents and data. Electronic data storage is
    taking over but security is still a concern to
    some.
  • Accidents, incidents and MoRs are discussed at
    regular internal meetings and meetings with the
    NAA.

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Question 4
  • Do you foresee that the DOA will be
    ineffective/uneconomic in meeting the future
    needs of Industry. Describe
  • What are these future needs, or plans, in terms
    of distribution of design responsibilities.
  • What kind of DOA would be required in that
    context.

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Question 4 Response
  • Yes As covered under Q1, for small and SME GA
    companies the cost of obtaining and maintaining a
    DOA to present requirements disproportionately
    expensive. It is stifling new development and
    making competitiveness with US companies
    difficult.
  • The proposals made for Q1 are relevant here also.

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Question 5
  • Do you considerate it necessary to recognise
    expertise at system or sub-system level ? Please
    provide
  • justification and identify possible associated
    DOA privileges
  • Pros and cons for having such recognition managed
    and controlled by the Agency or by industry
    itself.

24
Question 5 Response
  • Yes. There was some merit in the JAR 21 JB
    system for key component manufacturers.
  • Any such JB system must integrate with the
    minimum DOA as described under Q1.

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Question 6
  • Some aircraft systems are already treated as
    Products and hold a TC in there own right (eg
    Engines and Propellers). Would you like to see
    an extension of theses principles to create a
    modular approach to certification ? If yes,
    describe
  • What systems should be included,
  • What you see as the pros and cons of such an
    extension,
  • What interface issues may arise and how possible
    safety gaps are to be avoided, and
  • How overall control and responsibilities are to
    be managed.

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Question 6 Response
  • In principle, yes. However
  • Some major systems such as undercarriages and
    Auto Pilots are usually adapted to be aircraft
    specific. Where this is not the case, they could
    have their own TC or else the core system
    could have a TC.
  • The negative side could be the cost of the such
    TCs being out of proportion to the system cost.

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Question 7
  • Would you be in favour of Industry
    self-certification of aviation products ? Please
    describe
  • What you see as the pros and cons of such an
    approach,
  • What level of Agency involvement, if any, would
    be appropriate ? And,
  • The pros and cons of certification by 3rd party
    organisations.

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Question 6 Response
  • Yes.
  • Covered in part under Q1 but benefits would be
    increased flexibility, cost savings and a better
    environment to encourage new designs.
  • Agency involvement could be limited to Audits and
    Final Approval for Projects wanting some form of
    Certification.
  • A (major) negative could be ultimate legal
    accountability.

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Thank you for your attention
  • I hope I have made you aware of some of the
    concerns that exist in the small and SME GA
    companies relating to DOA and provoked thought
    with our suggestions and comments.
  • I will be pleased to answer any questions
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