Title: European Council of General Aviation Support
1European Council of General Aviation Support
Presentation to EASA DOA Workshop - 7th Nov 2006
Dassault Aviation Saint- Cloud Paris France
2What is ECOGAS?
- ECOGAS is the European Council of General
Aviation Support - ECOGAS comprises of the National General
Aviation Associations and Commercial
Organisations based in Europe - These Associations represent commercial General
Aviation companies - General Aviation is that aviation outside
military or major airline operations - ECOGAS was founded in 1988 by Gerard Pic (in
France) and Danny Forman (in UK)
3Objectives of ECOGAS
- Co-operation and exchange of information between
members - Representation of common interests to national
and European Authorities - Co-operation with other European Associations in
General Aviation - Expand General Aviation within Europe
4Co-operation Other European Associations
- Co-operation with
- European Business Aviation Association (EBAA)
- European Regional Airlines Association (ERA)
- International Aircraft Owners and Pilots
Association (IAOPA) - European Association of Airline Pilots Schools
(EAAPS) - Europe Airsports
5What is the General Aviation Industry?
- Design Manufacture
- Modification, including avionics installations
- Maintenance
- Supply of parts
- Support services
- Operations and flight training
- New used aircraft sales
6Size of Industry in Europe EU 15
- Approximately
- 29,000 single engine piston aircraft
- 4,000 multi engine piston aircraft
- 150 single engine turboprop
- 1,000 multi engine turboprop
- 2,000 jets
- ECOGAS members represent the interests of around
1,000 companies - Companies from SME to multinational
7For Todays DOA Workshop
- General Aviation is defined as
- CS Part 23 Aircraft below 5,700Kg
- VLA
- It is important to remember that Existing
- GA Companies are all Small or SMEs
- New start up projects must also be
- considered
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8The Presentation will follow the Question
Sequence of EASAs The Future of DOA
Questionnaire to Industry
- Some Perceived Problems are Identified and
Suggestions are offered to help offset these.
9Question 1
- Are you satisfied with the current DOA concept
as applied today ? If no, describe areas where
the existing concept is seen as inefficient or
doesnt provide the necessary flexibility,
10Question 1 Response
- Answer No
- The financial burden for the acquisition and
maintenance of a DOA for Small Companies and SMEs
is significant (prohibitive to a new company) - This is compounded by having to employ sufficient
people to meet the full range of skills demanded.
Possibly justifiable for Large, CS 25,
Manufacturers, but not the much smaller CS 23 and
VLA companies.
11 Question 1 Response contd
- It is important to remember that the main
competition comes from the USA where the concept
of DOA does not exist. - In the USA an experimental category aircraft can
be built and flown with comparative ease and
minimal cost. - Experimental Category also allows a Proof of
Concept aircraft to be built and flown before
embarking on a Type Certification programme.
12Question 1 Response contd
- The services of the FAA for example when
demonstrating compliance with FAR 23 for Type
Certification or STC are free. - For these reasons at least two new GA Design
Projects are known to have gone to the USA in the
last few years.
13Question 1 Response contd
- It is essential we do what we can to encourage
new GA projects in Europe they provide the
ideal breeding ground for new engineers to learn
an gain experience in addition to creating
commercial opportunities. - It is also important to minimise the overhead
cost burden of airworthiness to European General
Aviation companies to enable them to be
competitive with the American market.
14Question 1 Response contd
- Proposal 1
- Allow Small/SME companies greater freedom to
nominate third party organisations, or
consultants, to supplement their full time Design
Team on an as and when required basis. This
reduces the risk of employing under utilised full
time specialists.
15Question 1 Response contd
- Proposal 2
- For new General Aviation projects by start up
companies, establish an equivalent to the USA
Experimental Category to allow the production of
a Proof of Concept prototype without a DOA(or
POA). - Once the Prototype has been proven, allow for
steady growth towards DOA as the Project
develops.
16Question 1 Response contd
- Proposal 3
- For small non complex aircraft develop a self
regulatory system employing suitably qualified
and experienced people in Trade Bodies, Voluntary
Member Groups and Companies ? - An MDM 032 consideration ?
17Question 2
- How are responsibilities/liabilities
currently established in your organisation
between DOA holder and sub-contractors ?
Describe - How delegation of certification tasks are made,
if any - What interfaces are present to control such
delegation - How liability is addressed.
18Question 2 Response
- Very difficult for a Trade Association to comment
but typically in small companies internal
delegation relies a conventional management
organigram linked to the CVE structure. Use of
external contractors seems to be kept to a
minimum, preferring to bring people in-house when
required. - This minimalist structure seems to suit small and
SME companies.
19Question 3
- How are current Type Certification documents
and data required for continuing airworthiness
controlled ? Describe what control mechanisms
are in place by the TC applicant to delegate and
control documentation.
20Question 3 Response
- Small and SME companies typically use a
controlled centralised Filing System for all
documents and data. Electronic data storage is
taking over but security is still a concern to
some. - Accidents, incidents and MoRs are discussed at
regular internal meetings and meetings with the
NAA.
21Question 4
- Do you foresee that the DOA will be
ineffective/uneconomic in meeting the future
needs of Industry. Describe - What are these future needs, or plans, in terms
of distribution of design responsibilities. - What kind of DOA would be required in that
context.
22Question 4 Response
- Yes As covered under Q1, for small and SME GA
companies the cost of obtaining and maintaining a
DOA to present requirements disproportionately
expensive. It is stifling new development and
making competitiveness with US companies
difficult. - The proposals made for Q1 are relevant here also.
23Question 5
- Do you considerate it necessary to recognise
expertise at system or sub-system level ? Please
provide - justification and identify possible associated
DOA privileges - Pros and cons for having such recognition managed
and controlled by the Agency or by industry
itself.
24Question 5 Response
- Yes. There was some merit in the JAR 21 JB
system for key component manufacturers. - Any such JB system must integrate with the
minimum DOA as described under Q1.
25Question 6
- Some aircraft systems are already treated as
Products and hold a TC in there own right (eg
Engines and Propellers). Would you like to see
an extension of theses principles to create a
modular approach to certification ? If yes,
describe - What systems should be included,
- What you see as the pros and cons of such an
extension, - What interface issues may arise and how possible
safety gaps are to be avoided, and - How overall control and responsibilities are to
be managed.
26Question 6 Response
- In principle, yes. However
- Some major systems such as undercarriages and
Auto Pilots are usually adapted to be aircraft
specific. Where this is not the case, they could
have their own TC or else the core system
could have a TC. - The negative side could be the cost of the such
TCs being out of proportion to the system cost. -
27Question 7
- Would you be in favour of Industry
self-certification of aviation products ? Please
describe - What you see as the pros and cons of such an
approach, - What level of Agency involvement, if any, would
be appropriate ? And, - The pros and cons of certification by 3rd party
organisations.
28Question 6 Response
- Yes.
- Covered in part under Q1 but benefits would be
increased flexibility, cost savings and a better
environment to encourage new designs. - Agency involvement could be limited to Audits and
Final Approval for Projects wanting some form of
Certification. - A (major) negative could be ultimate legal
accountability.
29Thank you for your attention
- I hope I have made you aware of some of the
concerns that exist in the small and SME GA
companies relating to DOA and provoked thought
with our suggestions and comments. - I will be pleased to answer any questions