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Title: Allegheny East Conference Local Church Elders Retreat


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  • THE ROLE
    FUNCTION
  • OF
  • CHRISTIAN
    WOMEN
  • IN MINISTRY

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  • The Apostle Paul and Women
  • I am a Pharisee, the son of a Pharisee of the
    hope and resurrection of the dead I am called in
    question.
  • But Paul said, I am a man which am a Jew of
    Tarsus, a city in Cilicia, a citizen of no mean
    city and, I beseech thee, suffer me to speak
    unto the people.
  • 25 And as they bound him with thongs, Paul said
    unto the centurion that stood by, Is it lawful
    for you to scourge a man that is a Roman, and
    uncondemned?
  • 27 Then the chief captain came, and said unto
    him, Tell me, art thou a Roman? He said, Yea.

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  • 4 My manner of life from my youth, which was at
    the first among mine own nation at Jerusalem,
    know all the Jews
  • 5 Which knew me from the beginning, if they
    would testify, that after the most straitest sect
    of our religion I lived a Pharisee.

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  • Paul was a Pharisee -Strict
  • Paul was a legalist when converted.
  • Corinth was a seaport city with temple worship
    with godess sexual worship
  • Vocal women were dominate in the heathern
    worship.
  • Jewish women were culturally taught to be silent
    and be taught by their husbands.

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  • Paul in his letter to the church in corinth gave
    instructions regarding order in worship, and the
    gift of tongues
  • I Corinthians 14
  • 12 So it is with you. Since you are eager to
    have spiritual gifts, try to excel in gifts that
    build up the church.
  • 13 For this reason anyone who speaks in a tongue
    should pray that he may interpret what he says.

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  • 18 I thank God that I speak in tongues more than
    all of you.
  • 19 But in the church I would rather speak five
    intelligible words to instruct others than ten
    thousand words in a tongue.

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  • 1 Corinthians 14
  • 26 What then shall we say, brothers? When you
    come together, everyone has a hymn, or a word of
    instruction, a revelation, a tongue or an
    interpretation. All of these must be done for the
    strengthening of the church.
  • 27 If anyone speaks in a tongue, two--or at the
    most three--should speak, one at a time, and
    someone must interpret.

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  • 1 Corinthians 14
  • 28 If there is no interpreter, the speaker
    should keep quiet in the church and speak to
    himself and God.
  • 29 Two or three prophets should speak, and the
    others should weigh carefully what is said.
  • 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is
    sitting down, the first speaker should stop.

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  • 31 For you can all prophesy in turn so that
    everyone may be instructed and encouraged.
  • 32 The spirits of prophets are subject to the
    control of prophets.

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  • 1 Corinthians 14
  • 33 For God is not the author of confusion,
    but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
  • 34 Let your women keep silence in the
    churches for it is not permitted unto them to
    speak (Under Jewish Law) but they are commanded
    to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
  • 35 And if they will learn any thing, let
    them ask their husbands at home for it is a
    shame for women to speak in the church. (Jewish
    cultural law)

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  • I Timothy 2
  • 9 In like manner also, that women adorn
    themselves in modest apparel, with shamefacedness
    and sobrietynot with broided hair, or gold, or
    pearls, or costly array
  • 10 But (which becometh women professing
    godliness) with good works.
  • 11 Let the woman learn in silence with all
    subjection.
  • 12 But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to
    usurp authority over the man, but to be in
    silence.
  • 13 For Adam was first formed, then Eve.
  • 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman
    being deceived was in the transgression.

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  • The more Paul learned the methods of Jesus, the
    more he realized that Jesus was inclusive of all
    and that Spiritual Gifts were given by the Holy
    Spirit to whomever He wills.

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  • Specific women that were associated with Jesus in
    His Ministry.
  • Mary the Mother of Jesus
  • Mary Magdalene Became a disciple
  • Johanna
  • Susanna
  • Mary the Mother of James
  • Salome

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  • Specific women that were associated with Paul in
    His Ministry
  • Apphia - Philemon 2 Priscilla - Acts/Rom.
  • Euodia - Philippians 4 Syntyche - Philippians
  • Lydia - Acts 16 Tryphena - Rom. 16
  • Mary of Rome - Romans 16 Tryphosa - Rom. 16
  • Nymphia - Colosians 4
  • Persis - Romans 16
  • Phoebe - Romans 16

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  • Philippians 4 3
  • And I entreat thee also, true yokefellow, help
    those women which laboured with me in the gospel,
    with Clement also, and with other my fellow
    labourers, whose names are in the book of life.

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  • Galatians 3
  • 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith
    in Christ Jesus.
  • 27 For as many of you as have been baptized into
    Christ have put on Christ. (not Jewish law)
  • 28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is
    neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor
    female for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.

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  • -PT- (Australasian) Union Conference Record -DT-
    03-01-01
  • -AT- Work in San Francisco -PR- 14 -TEXT-
  • There are men and women whom the Lord,
    through peculiar circumstances,will bring to the
    front in His work. These will be men and women
    who have consecrated themselves to Him. As they
    walk before Him in faith and trust, He will lead
    them to places of usefulness and honour. To those
    who rely upon Him He is a present help in every
    time of need. Those who honour His name He will
    qualify for important and perilous service. They
    may not have time to obtain all the education
    they desire, but the great Teacher understands.
    What He calls for is the willing devotion of
    heart and mind. When this is given Him, He will
    fit the givers for His service, in spite of
    apparent difficulties and obstacles. In His name
    and in His strength they will go forth to conquer.

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  • TI- Loma Linda Messages -PR- 03 -PG- 428 -TEXT-
  • Opportunities are before you if studious
    and upright,
  • you may obtain an education of the highest value.
    Make the most
  • of your privileges. Be not satisfied with
    ordinary attainment
  • seek to qualify yourselves to fill positions of
    trust in connection
  • with the Lord's work in the earth. United with
    the God
  • of wisdom and power, you may become
    intellectually strong, and
  • increasingly capable as soul-winners. You may
    become men and
  • women of responsibility and influence, if, by the
    power of your
  • will, coupled with divine strength, you earnestly
    engage in the
  • work of securing a proper training.

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  • TI- Manuscript Releases Volume One -CN- 62 -CT-
    Governing Principles in the Remuneration of SDA
    Workers -PR- 03 -PG- 263 -TEXT-
  • God has entrusted talents to His servants,
    and He expects them to see that mistakes can be
    readily made. Make no mistake in neglecting to
    correct the error of giving ministers less than
    they should receive. When you see persons in
    necessity who have been placed in positions of
    trust, let God move upon your heart to set things
    right. The tithe should go to those who labor in
    word and doctrine, be they men or women. ltSU Ms
    149, 1899
  • ltEU, p. 3. ("Paying Women Workers," October
    24, 1899.)

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  • TI- Historical Sketches of the Foreign Missions
    of the Seventh-day Adventists. -CN- 1 -CT-
    Practical Addresses -PR- 06 -PG- 124, 125
  • -TEXT- "And he gave some, apostles and some,
    prophets and some, evangelists and some,
    pastors and teachers for the perfecting of the
    saints, for the work of the ministry, for the
    edifying of the body of Christ till we all come
    in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge
    of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the
    measure of the stature of the fullness of
    Christ.
  • (Continued on next slide)

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  • God is seeking through his prophets and apostles
    to make us perfect
  • but if we would become
  • perfect men and women
  • in Christ, we must
  • "come in the unity
  • of the faith."

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  • TI- Manuscript Releases Volume Five -CN- 330
  • -CT- Women as Workers in the Cause of God -PR- 04
    -PG- 325
  • -TEXT- There are women who should labor in
    the gospel ministry. In many respects they would
    do more good than the ministers who neglect to
    visit the flock of God. Husband and wife may
    unite in this work, and when it is possible, they
    should. The way is open for consecrated women.
    But the enemy would be pleased to have the women
    whom God could use to help hundreds, binding up
    their time and strength on one helpless little
    mortal, that requires constant care and attention.

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-TI- Testimonies for the Church Volume Six -CN-
5 -CT- Canvassing -PR- 01 -PG- 322 -TEXT-
All who desire an opportunity for true ministry,
and who will give themselves unreservedly to
God, will find in the canvassing work
opportunities to speak upon many things
pertaining to the future, immortal life.
continued on next slide
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  • The experience thus gained will be of the
    greatest value to those who are fitting
    themselves for the ministry. It is the
  • accompaniment of the
  • Holy Spirit of God that
  • prepares workers, both
  • men and women, to
  • become pastors to the
  • flock of God.

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  • Continued from T6 p322
  • As they cherish the thought that Christ is their
    Companion, a holy awe, a sacred joy, will be felt
    by them amid all their trying experiences and all
    their tests. They will learn how to pray as they
    work. They will be educated in patience,
    kindness, affability, and helpfulness. They will
    practice true Christian courtesy, bearing in mind
    that Christ, their Companion, cannot approve of
    harsh, unkind words or feelings.CONTINUED ON
    NEXT SLIDE

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  • CONTINUED
  • Their words will be purified. The power of speech
    will be regarded as a precious talent, lent them
    to do a high and holy work. The human agent will
    learn how to represent the divine Companion with
    whom he is associated. To that unseen Holy One he
    will show respect and reverence because he is
    wearing His yoke and is learning His pure, holy
    ways. Those who have faith in this divine
    Attendant will develop. They will be gifted with
    power to clothe the message of truth with a
    sacred beauty.

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  • TI- The Adventist Home -CN- 17 -CT- Mutual
    Obligations -PR- 01 -PG- 115
  • -TEXT- SB God's Instruction to Eve. ltEB--Eve was
    told of the sorrow and pain that must henceforth
    be her portion. And the Lord said, "Thy desire
    shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over
    thee." In the creation, God had made her the
    equal of Adam. Had they remained obedient to
    God--in harmony with His great law of love--they
    would ever have been in harmony with each other
    but sin had brought discord, and now their union
    could be maintained and harmony preserved only by
    submission on the part of the one or the other.

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  • Eve had been the first in transgression and she
    had fallen into temptation by separating from her
    companion, contrary to the divine direction. It
    was by her solicitation that Adam sinned, and she
    was now placed in subjection to her husband. Had
    the principles enjoined in the law of God been
    cherished by the fallen race, this sentence,
    though growing out of the results of sin, would
    have proved a blessing to them but man's abuse
    of the supremacy thus given him has too often
    rendered the lot of woman very
  • bitter, and made her life a burden.

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  • -DT- 06-01-80 -AT- Influence of Woman
  • -PR- 06 -TEXT-
  • Woman, if she wisely improves her time and
    her faculties, relying upon God for wisdom and
    strength, may stand on an equality with her
    husband as adviser, counselor, companion, and
    co-worker, and yet lose none of her womanly grace
    or modesty. She may elevate her own character,
    and just as she does this she is elevating and
    ennobling the characters of her family, and
    exerting a powerful though unconscious influence
    upon others around her.

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  • Why should not women cultivate the intellect?
    Why should they not answer the purpose of God in
    their existence? Why may they not understand
    their own
  • powers, and realizing that these powers are
    given of God, strive to make use of them to the
    fullest extent in doing good to others, in
    advancing the work of reform, of truth and real
    goodness, in the world? Satan knows that women
    have a power of influence for good or for evil
    therefore he seeks to enlist
  • them in his cause.

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  • -TI- The Faith I Live By -CN- 9 -CT-
  • The Christ-Centered Home -PR- 03 -PG- 251
  • -TEXT-
  • God Himself gave Adam a companion. He
    provided "an help meet for him"--a helper
    corresponding to him--one who was fitted to be
    his companion, and who could be one with him in
    love and sympathy.
  • Eve was created from a rib taken from the
    side of Adam, signifying that she was not to
    control him as the head, nor to be trampled under
    his feet as an inferior, but to stand by his side
    as an equal, to be loved and protected by him.

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  • TI- The Acts of the Apostles -CN- 11 -CT-
  • The Gospel in Samaria -PR- 03 -PG- 105
  • -TEXT- Among those to whom the Saviour had
    given the commission, "Go ye therefore, and teach
    all nations" (Matthew 2819), were many from the
    humbler walks of life--men and women who had
    learned to love their Lord and who had determined
    to follow His example of unselfish service. To
    these lowly ones, as well as to the disciples who
    had been with the Saviour during His earthly
    ministry, had been given a precious trust. They
    were to carry to the world the glad tidings of
    salvation through Christ.

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  • Advent Review Sabbath Herald 7/30/1895
  • The mother of one of the sisters who has now
    taken her position on the truth, has been a most
    bitter opposer, and has threatened that if her
    daughter did become a Sabbath-keeper, she would
    not allow her to enter her home for the mother
    would look upon her as a disgrace to the family.
    Mrs. A. had often made the statement that she
    would never join the Seventh-day Adventists.
  • (Continued on next slide)

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  • She had been brought up in the Presbyterian
    Church, and had been educated to think that it
    was very improper for women to speak in meeting,
    and that for a woman to preach was altogether
    beyond the bounds of propriety. (Continued next
    slide)

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  • She enjoyed hearing Elders Daniells and Corliss,
    and thought them very clever speakers, but she
    would not listen to a woman's preaching. Her
    husband had prayed that God would so arrange
    matters that she might be converted under the
    ministry of sister White.

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  • When I made the appeal,
  • and urged those to
  • come forward who felt
  • their need of drawing
  • nearer to God,to the
  • surprise of all,
  • these sisters came
  • forward.
  • (Continued on next slide)

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  • The sister who had lost her little one, said that
    she was determined that she would not move
    forward, but the Spirit of the Lord so forcibly
    impressed her mind that she dared not refuse.
    When the brethren A. saw their wives going
    forward, they said they felt like leaping and
    praising God. (Continuted on Next Slide)

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  • They could hardly believe their own eyes. These
    men have proved God's promise true for in asking
    they have received, and their faith has been
    greatly increased in him who has made every
    promise sure in Jesus Christ.

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  • Women are needed in the work for the salvation of
    souls.--Women can be the instruments of
    righteousness, rendering holy service. It was
    Mary that first preached a risen Jesus. In
    fulfillment of the divine plan, the Son of Man
    came to seek and save that which was lost. . . .
    Those who engage with the Son of God in His work,
    be they ever so aspiring, can have no greater, no
    holier work than this.

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  • If there were twenty women where now there is
    one, who would make this holy mission their
    cherished work, we should see more converts to
    the truth. The refining, softening influence of
    Christian woman is needed in the great work of
    preaching the truth.

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  • The Lord of the vineyard is saying to many women
    who are now doing nothing, "Why stand ye here all
    day idle?" Zealous and continued diligence in our
    sisters toiling for the spread of the truth would
    be wholly successful, and would astonish us with
    its results. Through patience and perseverance,
    the work must be accomplished. . . . We are
    lacking in deeds of sympathy and benevolence, in
    sacred and social ministering to the needy, the
    oppressed, and the suffering.

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  • Women who can work are needed now, women who are
    not self-important, but meek and lowly of heart,
    who will work with the meekness of Christ
    wherever they can find work to do for the
    salvation of souls.--RH, Jan. 2, 1879. PaM 76.1

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  • Spouses may unite in work.--There are women who
    should labor in the gospel ministry. In many
    respects they would do more good than the
    ministers who neglect to visit the flock of God.
    Husband and wife may unite in this work, and when
    it is possible, they should. The way is open for
    consecrated women.--5MR 325, 326. PaM 76.2

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  • The Lord would have ministers and their spouses
    closely united in the work.--The work of God
    demands most earnest labor, and the Lord would
    have ministers and their wives closely united in
    this work. The husband and wife can so blend in
    labor that the wife shall be the complement of
    the husband.

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  • The Lord desires them unitedly to watch for His
    voice, to draw closer and still closer unto Him,
    feeding upon His Word, and receiving light and
    blessing to impart to others. They should be as
    free as possible to attend campmeetings and other
    general gatherings. And the wife may continually
    be a great help to her husband in visiting and
    other personal labor.

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  • When possible, let minister and spouse work
    together.--When it is possible, let the minister
    and his wife go forth together. The wife can
    often labor by the side of her husband,
    accomplishing a noble work. She can visit the
    homes of the people and help the women in these
    families in a way that her husband cannot.--Ev
    491. PaM 77.1

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  • Some spouses should receive wages.--There are
    ministers' wives, Sisters Starr, Haskell, Wilson
    and Robinson, who have been devoted, earnest,
    whole-souled workers, giving Bible readings and
    praying with families, helping along by personal
    efforts just as successfully as their husbands.
    These women give their whole time, and are told
    that they receive nothing for their labors
    because their husbands receive their wages.

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  • I tell them to go forward and all such decisions
    shall be reversed. The Word says, "The laborer is
    worthy of his hire." When any such decision as
    this is made, I will in the name of the Lord,
    protest. I will feel it in my duty to create a
    fund from my tithe money, to pay these women who
    are accomplishing just as essential work as the
    ministers are doing, and this tithe I will
    reserve for work in the same line as that of the
    ministers, hunting for souls, fishing for souls.

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  • Since it is evident that Ellen White was a
    preacher as well as a prophet, and since in all
    of her counsels to the remnant church she never
    referred to the text of Paul in his letter to the
    Corinthians, and since no other biblical writer
    established this counsel for all churches.

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  • It was counsel that Paul gave to the church in
    Corinth because of the unique condition of the
    the character of the church in that location. The
    text also says that there were men who were not
    properly contributing to the issue, and were
    counseled to be silent.

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  • Let us look at our materials
  • The Yellow Pages
  • What Does the Bible say about Ordination ?
  • How did the Early SDA Church Practice Ordination
    ?
  • Were Women Used in Ministerial Service ?
  • What Does Ellen White Say About Womens
    Ordination ?

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  • OFFICIAL ACTIONS
  • of
  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church
  • and
  • The Role of Women
  • In Ministry

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  • The 1973 Annual Council
  • Voted to appoint women to pastoral and
    evangelistic work, and that appropriate
    missionary credentials/licenses be granted them.
  • The 1974 Spring council Pages 12-14.
  • The greatest discretion and caution be exercised
    in the ordaining of women to the office of Local
    Elder .

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  • Since that time 100s of churches in the NAD have
    ordained 1000s of women to the office of local
    church Elder.
  • 1984 Action of the NAD To reaffirm the action of
    the GC Committee in 1975 and to advice each
    division that it is free to make provisions for
    the election and ordination of women as local
    Elders.

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  • The Ordination of Women to the Gospel Ministry as
    Pastors
  • The recommendation from the North American
    Division to the World Church at the General
    Conference Session of 1995, was to take an action
    to ordain Women into the Gospel Ministry. The
    motion was voted Down.

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  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church is a very
    diverse family of believers. We are a multitude
    of Cultures, each with its own perspective on
    issues that affect the life of the church. We
    have agreed on a body of doctrines that are
    non-negotiable.
  • However, The status, position, and acceptance of
    women in leadership roles differ from one culture
    to the other.

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  • Since the majority of the churches membership is
    outside of North America in counties whose
    acceptance of the role of the woman is different
    than that in North America, the vote of the
    delegates in the representative form of Church
    governance was driven primarily by culture
    rather than scripture. Inasmuch as ordination to
    the ministry is a world wide credential, the
    issue was voted down.

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  • The Seventh-day Adventist Church continues to
  • operate in accordance with the actions of the
    Annual council of 1973 in the appointing of
    called and qualified women to pastoral and
    evangelistic work and provide appropriate
    credentials and licenses to them .

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  • Final Questions
  • and
  • wrap up

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  • THE END
  • THE ROLE
    FUNCTION
  • OF
  • CHRISTIAN
    WOMEN
  • IN MINISTRY

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