Title: Classical Western Thought
1Classical Western Thought
- 1. The Homeric Moral Outlook
21. The Importance of Homer
3- In the Western classical tradition Homer (? 750
BC), is the author of the Iliad and the Odyssey,
and is revered as the greatest ancient Greek epic
poet (??). - Many Greeks with some eduction learnt the Homeric
poems. - The Athenians heard them recited in public.
Your fathers took him to be such an excellent
poet that they passed a law that every four years
he, alone of all poets, should have his works
performed by reciters at the All-Athenian
festival. -- Augustine, Confession
4 Illustration 1. All-Athenian Festival
5Illustration 2 Ancient Greek Singers
6- From Homer many Greeks drew central and
influential elements of their conception of the
gods and the relation of gods to human beings,
and they drew a moral outlook and ideal. - It is not surprising that later philosophers
regularly quote Homer. - He is not always an authority indeed, he is
sometimes a target, since thoughtful Greeks
attack and challenge his views on morality and
religion.
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82. The Ideal Person and the Ideal Life
The Homeric moral outlook is most easily
understood from its conception of the ideal
person.
- Some of a person's goodness is outside his
control. - A good person must have been born into a good
family, and must himself be rich and strong. - The hereditary, social, and material components
of a person's goodness are so important that, if
you have them, you remain a good person, even if
you behave badly.
A Good Person
Heredity
Social Status
Wealth
9Iliad, book 3, 20-40
- At once Menelaus jumped from his chariot,
- down to the ground, his weapons in his fists.
- When godlike Alexander saw Menelaus there,
- among the fighters at the front, his heart sank.
- He moved back into the ranks, among his comrades,
- avoiding death. Just as a man stumbles on a snake
- in some mountainous ravine and gives way, jumping
back, - his limbs trembling, his cheeks pale, so godlike
Paris, - afraid of Atreus' son, slid back into proud
Trojan ranks.
10- Some aspects of a person's goodness are in his
control. - A hero is expected to display his excellence in
his actions, characteristically and ideally the
actions of a warrior and leader. - A good man excels in battle, and his
characteristic virtues are strength, skill, and
courage. - The hero is individualistic, in so far as he is
concerned primarily with his own success and
reputation he does not aim primarily at some
collective goal that includes the good of other
people, or of a whole society.
11An example Achilles
- Birth
- Achilles was the son of the nymph Thetis and
Peleus, the king of the Myrmidons. - His mother, Thetis is a sea nymph or known as the
goddess of water. - when Achilles was born Thetis tried to make him
immortal by dipping him in the river Styx.
However, he was left vulnerable at the part of
the body by which she held him, his heel. - He was taught by Chiron, an intellegent Centaur
who was known for his knowledge and skills with
medicine.
12Achilles' parents Thetis and Peleus (Attic
red-figured kylix 460 BC)
13The Education of Achilles (1772) by James Barry
(1741-1806)
14- Achilles in the Trojan War
- Achilles' father sent him to Troy "always to be
best and to excel the others". - Achilles is the "best of the Achaeans", above all
because he is the strongest, the bravest, and the
most skillful. - Achilles and Agamemnon quarrel at the beginning
of the war, because Agamemnon takes Briseis, who
is Achilles' prize, and so slights Achilles'
honour.
Honour, as Homer conceives it, includes,
primarily, other people's good opinion, and,
secondarily, the material and social "honours"
that are both causes and effects of this good
opinion.
15Briseis being taken to Agamemnon
16Achilles' rage by Giovanni Battista Tiepolo, 1757
173. Self and Others
- The hero is certainly not indifferent to others.
- Thetis is concerned about her son Achilles
- Thetis and attendants bring armor she had
prepared for him to Achilles, an Attic
black-figure hydria, c. 575550 BC
18- Hector is concerned about his wife and son.
- Hector's last visit to his family before his duel
with Achilles Astyanax, on Andromache's knees,
stretches to touch his father's helmet.
red-figure column-crater, 370360 BC
19- Achilles tending Patroclus wounded by an arrow (
500 BC)
20- A hero of superior strength and power has
inferiors who depend on him, and he is expected
to defend them. - A good husband, such as Hector, cares about his
wife. - Achilles does what is expected of the greater
hero, and cares about his friend and dependant
Patroclus. - Odysseus appeals to the common interest of the
group in his attempt to persuade Achilles to give
up the quarrel with Agamemnon.
Odysseus was a legendary Greek king of Ithaca
and the hero of Homer's epic poem the Odyssey.
21- Apart from these specific expectations of
particular people in special relations to the
hero, people in general expect him to be moved by
common human feelings. - Achilles displays callous indifference in his
dishonouring of Hectors corpse. - He finally outgrows this attitude when he meets
Priam when he thinks of his own father, he
understands Priams feelings and is moved by
them.
Priam begs Achilles to pity him, saying "I have
endured what no one on earth has ever done before
I put my lips to the hands of the man who
killed my son."
22Triumphant Achilles Achilles dragging the dead
body of Hector in front of the gates of Troy,
painting, 1892
23Priam Asking Achilles to Return Hector's Body,
painting, 1824
24- The interests of other people are important to a
hero, but a heros attitude to these interests is
not a prominent part of his goodness. - A hero is criticized if he is as indifferent to
them as Achilles is. - Achilles loses none of his heroic virtue by being
selfishly indifferent to others. - He remains the best of the Achaeans, and no one
so much as suggests that his selfish indifference
might damage his reputation for goodness. - If he had been captured by pirates and sold into
slavery, he would have lost half his virtue.
254. Difficulties in Homeric Ethics
- The Homeric outlook creates conflicts for those
who accept it. - Some of the conflicts arise for the individual
himself. - Achilles knows that honor is unstable and
transitory, and in any case does not matter much
to someone when he is dead. - However, his shame at the dishonor he suffers
from the death of Patroculus forces him back into
the battle, even though he knows his own death
will be the result.
26- Homeric ethics creates the conflict within an
individual, but it also creates it within a
society. - Each hero wants his own honour and fights for it
with others. When everyone tolerates this system,
it may be bad for everyone. - Example Penelopes suitors. Their selfish and
parasitic behaviour is bad for the whole
community. But from one point of view, it is
heroic, since it promises considerable rewards in
honour and status for the luck one who marries
Penelope.
27Penelope and the Suitors by John William
Waterhouse (1912)
28Slaughter of the suitors by Odysseus,
bell-krater, 330 BC
29Odysseus using a bow and arrow to slay Penelope's
suitors
30Thersitess criticism
- Thersites was a soldier of the Greek army during
the Trojan War. - He is a brash, obstreperous, and ugly
rabble-rouser. - He denouces the kings as selfish parasites
wasting the resources of the community. - He is beaten by Odysseus for his insolence.