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Title: Los Angeles AAII


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Los AngelesAAII
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The Partnership
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Why Did We Care?
4
Really Simple They Paid Us, Not Just Themselves
5
Petrol Paid
6
Businesses With Benefits
7
Loonie Flies Again.(Bigger Dividends Down
South)
8
Then One Dark Hallows Eve
9
Tax Leakage?
  • Pensions/Deferred
  • Foreign Tax Treaties
  • Liberals
  • Limits on Ownership
  • 15 Withholding
  • Tories
  • Full Corporate Tax
  • Corporate Tax Cut

10
Tax Time
  • 2011
  • Not All Trusts
  • Utes, Property, Non-Traditional Trusts
  • Foreign Revenues
  • Deductions/Tax Pools
  • Not Going Away
  • Tories/Liberals/Bloc Quebecois
  • Regional Leadership

11
But Wait Theres More
  • Not Good
  • New Additional Petrol Tax/Alberta
  • 25 to 33 Net Revenue
  • Sands Now _at_ 1
  • Cutbacks Threatened 30-40 (Encana)
  • Traditional Petrol Not Protesting

12
How Play Out?
  • Change Books/Reduce Dividend
  • Convert to Corporation
  • Sell Out?
  • Partnership US, Canada
  • More to Follow..

13
What Still Works
  • Conversions
  • VET-U
  • Utes
  • BAM
  • Real Estate
  • CAR-U, NPR-U
  • Non-Trust Trusts
  • Hybrids

14
Still In The Herd?
  • ArcAET-U/AETUF
  • VermilionVET-U/VETMF
  • YellowpagesYLO-U/YLWPF?
  • Can.Apt.TrustCAR-U/CDPYF
  • Arctic Glacier AG-U/AGUNF

15
Trust Combos Nobody Knows
  • More Than a Stock
  • More Than A Bond
  • Atlantic Power (AGNUF)
  • TimberWest (TWTUF)
  • Medical Facilities (MFCSF)
  • Keystone North America (KYSNF)

16
Whats Next..
  • Become A Partner
  • Pass Though
  • Not Just Canadian
  • Global/Multi-Industry

17
Then Now
  • 70s-80s
  • Tax Abuse/Shelters
  • Tax Reform of 1986
  • End and Start of Partnerships

18
Simple Structure
  • Pass Through
  • US/Global
  • Multi-Industry
  • Energy
  • Real Estate
  • Other Cashflow Industries

19
Making Partner Pays
20
Replacement Petrol Performers
21
Publicly Traded Partnerships
  • No Corporate Tax.
  • High Cash-Flow Businesses.
  • Pass Through High Yields.
  • Variety Of Industries.
  • Good Deal On Taxes. (90-10)
  • US and Global

22
Publicly Traded Partnerships
  • Trade On Exchanges.
  • Limited Partner (LP) and General Partner (GP).
  • Typically Yield 6 to 10 Percent.
  • Distributions Growing 15 To 20.
  • Tax Advantage Deferral Death Deal.
  • Spin-downs Growth Income.

23
Tax Treatment Not Torture
  • Average 80 to 90 Return Of Capital
  • Reduce Cost Of Capital In PTP.
  • No tax on Return of Capital (ROC) until Sell.
  • K-1 forms and 1099
  • Estate/Trust Advantage

24
Growing Market
25
Distribution Growth - Not Dilution
26
Partners That Pay
  • Breitburn (BBEP) 6
  • Enerplus Partners Pending..
  • Enterprise (EPD) 6.3
  • Linn (LINE) 7.2
  • Macquarie (MIC) 7
  • Tortoise Capital/Infra (TTO)/TYG 6-6.5
  • Legacy (LGCY) 7.5

27
Toronto Again
  • AGF Master Limited Partnership (Toronto AFP-U
    also, OTC AGFRF)
  • Multi-Manager Limited Partnership I (Toronto
    MMN-U also, OTC MMPUF)
  • Mackenzie Master Limited Partnership (Toronto
    MKZ-U also, OTC MCKZF)
  • Amalgamated Income Limited Partnership (Toronto
    AI-U) also, OTC AILXF)

28
What Lucy Really Wants
29
Sell It and Lease It Back
30
The Forgotten Infrastructure?
31
Coming Up FromDown Under
32
Real Flyers
33
A New Genesis of a Castle
34
Another Ship That Sailed
35
Tankers
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The Partnership
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