Title: Personal Finance: Another Perspective
1Personal Finance Another Perspective
- Retirement Planning 5
- Questions and Answers
2Questions
- 1. What are some strategies for the Accumulation
stage of retirement? - 2. What are some strategies for the Retirement
stage of retirement? - 3. What are some strategies for the Distribution
stage of retirement? - 4. How do I determine the taxable / retirement
split from the hourglass? - 5. Why do I have to look at all the details with
mutual funds. Cant I just use the Morningstar
Star rating to pick my mutual funds?
3Questions (continued)
- 6. What are the tax implications of the different
between the Roth and the traditional
IRA/401k/403b? - 7. Should I have and use both traditional and
Roth retirement vehicles in my retirement plan? - 8. What is the most important thing I can do now
to prepare for retirement?
41. Strategies for Accumulation
- What are some examples of possible strategies for
the Accumulation stage of retirement? - 1. Live on a budget and save 20 of everything
you make after school - Of that 20, put half or 10 into retirement
vehicles for your retirement - 2. Follow the priority of money (for saving and
investments) - Get free money first, then tax advantaged money
(tax eliminated and tax deferred), and then
tax-efficient and wise investing
5Accumulation (continued)
- 3. Depending on your tax and investing views,
maximize the amount of money in Roth vehicles
versus traditional retirement vehicles - Put as much new money as possible into Roth
vehicles - With sufficient money saved in Roth vehicles, you
can plan for and minimize your taxes during
retirement
62. Strategies for Retirement
- What are some examples of possible retirement
strategies for the Retirement/annuitization
stage of retirement? - 1. Determine your minimum acceptable level of
retirement income (your survival amount) - Try to get that part of your monthly expenses
annuitized, i.e., paid to you each month for life - The process is
- a. Determine how much money you will have with
Social Security each month - b. Determine any funding you will have from
defined benefit plans each month
7Retirement (continued)
- c. Determine the difference between these
amounts and your minimum acceptable level of
retirement income, and obtain an immediate
annuity at retirement that would give you that
amount - That way you will have your minimum amount for
living expenses covered for the rest of your life - Then, depending on the size of your retirement
assets and your risk levels, you can annuitize
more if you have a lower risk tolerance, or
annuitize less, if you have a higher risk
tolerance
8Retirement (continued)
- 2. With your spouse, determine how to take your
distributions from your retirement accounts - Work first to annuitize sufficient to give you
your minimum survival level discussed earlier - Make sure you use wisdom and judgment in your
decisions - Invest the remainder consistent with your risk
level
93. Strategies for Distribution
- What are some examples of possible Decumulation
/ Distribution strategies for the decumulation
stage of retirement? - 1. Use money from your deferred retirement
accounts first, until you get to a target level
for taxes to be paid - Additional money beyond your target level of
taxes can be taken out of your Roth (tax
eliminated) vehicles tax free. Use them wisely - 2. If you are required to take minimum
distributions from your tax-deferred accounts and
you dont need the money, you can roll those
distributions into another qualified plan, i.e.,
another Rollover IRA without taxes or into a Roth
IRA
10Distribution (continued)
- 3. Watch the percentage of your total portfolio
that you take out each year, i.e., your
distribution percentage. - If you take out a maximum distribution of
3.5-3.9 of your portfolio each year (or less),
your money is more likely to last your lifetime - 4. Use the time on your missions to transfer
money from your tax-deferred accounts to Roth
accounts - If you are under the income limits, you can
transfer funds to a Roth at a low level of taxes
11Distribution (continued)
- 5. While it is important to help your kids who
are having financial problems, realize that your
first priority is to take care of you and your
spouse and to make sure you have the financial
resources to do that adequately first during
retirement - Make sure you plan to cover your medical costs
and expenses and the impact of inflation - Once you are set up well financially, then worry
about your childrens finances - They are responsible for their own finances
- Parents who continually help their adult children
financially will find their adult children always
need help
124. How do I Determine the Taxable / Retirement
Split?
- The split between taxable and retirement assets
is determined by - a. Your personal goals, and
- b. Your available retirement vehicles
- Personal goals might be save 20, and half or
10 goes into retirement vehicles build your
emergency fund save for childrens education and
missions, etc. - The goal would determine the category
retirement (retirement), missions (taxable),
education (retirement), down payment (taxable),
etc. - Note that education funds are similar to
retirement in that you cannot take out the funds
without a penalty
13Taxable / Retirement Split?
- Available retirement vehicles are based on what
you are able to invest in. This is determined by
whether you have a qualified retirement plan
(QRP) currently at work and whether your current
income is within IRA deductibility limits. - With a QRP and within 2012 IRA limits You can
put up to 17,000 per year into a QRP
(401k/403b/457 Plan) and up to 5,000 into an
IRA. - Your spouse can also contribute up to 5,000 into
an IRA account - With QRP and outside IRA limits You can
contribute up to 17,000 to the QRP - You nor your spouse can contribute to an IRA
145. Why do I have to pick funds? Cant I just
use the Morningstar star rankings?
- Some investors use Morningstar and other
newsletters to do their homework for them.
Shouldnt that be enough? - Morningstar ratings are backward looking, i.e.,
they use historical data - Research has shown that the rankings have no
predictive value for future performance - Funds with 4 and 5-star ratings typically have
the highest inflows of assets. With more assets,
it is harder to put all this new money to work
effectively
15Morningstar Star Ratings
- 10 Year Results of Morningstar Ratings
- Data
- Of 248 stock funds rated 5-star in 1999, only 4
kept that rank after 10 years (1.7) - Of the 218 domestic stock funds rated 5-star in
1999, all typically lagged behind their category
averages and benchmarks over the period - Results
- 5-star funds typically do not continue to lead
their peersthey typically do worse - Use this ranking at your peril
16Morningstar Star Ratings
- We know the principles of successful investing
- Invest low cost, tax efficiently, be diversified,
know what you invest in and who you invest with,
invest long-term, etc, - Ratings should be one tool of this analysisbut
only one tool - If you will follow the principles taught in this
class, you will do a lot better than those who
blindly follow Morningstar or other star rankings - See Sam Hamudi, Investors have Stars in their
Eyes, Wall Street Journal, June 1, 2010, p. C7.
176. What are the tax implications between the
Roth and traditional vehicles?
- The tax implications are
- With the Roth you pay taxes upfront and outside
of the retirement vehicle - You get no tax deduction now for assets to be put
aside or saved for retirement - The benefit is you will have to pay no future
taxes on assets in these vehicles - This includes no taxes on earnings, capital
gains, interest or dividends - Now, regardless of earnings type, you will pay no
taxes on these assets. Therefore, put your
highest tax assets in these vehicles - Requires no minimum distribution
18Tax Implications of Roths (continued)
- With the traditional 401k/IRA/403b, you get an
exclusion from total income now - This reduces your total income so you pay no
taxes on the amounts in qualified plans - However, when you take the assets out at age 59½
for retirement, they are - Taxed as ordinary income
- This in essence converts long-term capital gains
(which they likely were) into ordinary income,
which is taxed at the highest rate - Requires minimum distributions after age 70½
197. Should I have both tax eliminated and tax
deferred assets in my retirement plan?
- Is there logic for having both traditional and
Roth retirement vehicles in your Plan? - Yes. The US tax system is progressive. As you
tax out more assets from your tax-deferred
retirement vehicles you are taxed at a higher
rate - However, for the first 17,400 in 2012 you are
taxed at only 10, and only 15 between 17,400
and 70,700 - By having both traditional and Roth vehicles you
can manage your tax rates to a target percentage
first, i.e., 10. Then any additional funds can
be taken from your Roth vehicles to ensure a low
effective tax rate
208. What is the Most Important Thing I can do Now
to Prepare for Retirement?
- What is the most important thing I can do now?
- Realize that you cannot spend your way to a
successful retirement. It is critical that you
begin saving now! Assume a 2 million goal at
8. To save for this goal for the following
years you would need to put the following amounts
away each month - Years Till Retire Amount Years Amount
- 40 Years 573 35 Years 872
- 30 Years 1,342 25 Years 2,103
- 20 Years 3,395 15 Years 5,708
- 10 Years 10,932 5 Years 27,219
- 1 Year 160,644
21Most Important Thing to Do Begin Now
- The key is to make it a priority and to start now!