Title: Price Determination and Discovery
1Price Determination and Discovery
- Price Determination
- is the broad forces of supply and demand
establishing a market clearing price for a
commodity. - Price Discovery
- is the process by which buyers and sellers arrive
a a specific price for a given lot of produce at
a given location for a specific time period.
2Price Discovery
- A human process, subject to relative bargaining
power of the buyer and seller. - Two stage process
- Evaluate SD and Pe
- Estimate the price for the specific trade.
3 Price Determination and Price Discovery
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4Futures Markets in Price Discovery
- Centralized pricing
- Global forces in one location
- Predominate price discovery for grains
- Still have local price discovery for basis
- Livestock price discovery more complicated
- Variability basis a bigger issue
- Growing inventory problem
5Centralized pricing
- All buyers and sellers in one place at one time,
i.e., auction market - Full and immediate information
- Competitive bidding
- Equalizes market power
- Transaction cost
- Physical movement of product
6Decentralized Pricing
- One-to-one negotiations
- Reduced transportation cost
- Reduced transaction cost
- Depends on skills and information
- Higher search cost
7Where to sell
- Terminal markets have declined
- Auction markets important when assembly is needed
- Feeder cattle and cull cows
- Growing interest in fed cattle in fringe areas
- Direct sales
- Slaughter cattle and hogs
- Feeder pigs
- Growing in feeder cattle where source
verification is important
8Feeder cattle sales
- Live weight sales
- Various weight classes
- In general, lower / and heavier weights
- Auction is major market
- Assembly function important
- Video auctions
- Direct trade
- Premium paid for
- Large uniform lots
- Certification/verification ??????
9Important market functions
- Assembly function
- Feeder cattle
- Cull cows
- Sorting function
10Slaughter Cattle and Hogs
- Direct sales most common
- Animals are delivered directly to the packing
plant - Spot or cash market
- Seller contacts buyer when ready to sell
- Negotiate price and terms on each group
- Contract market
- May be for one group or an ongoing agreement
between buyer and seller - Terms and pricing method determined ahead of
marketing date
11Hybrid markets
- Electronic markets
- Centralized pricing
- Decentralized product movement
- Examples
- Satellite auctions
- Electronic auctions
- Tel-o-auction
- E-commerce
12Formula pricing
- Price discovery from elsewhere
- Formula contracts
- Spot market
- Cutout price
- Futures
- Cost of production
- Do you trust the underlying market for price
discovery?
13Feeder Pig Trade
Formula pricing Based on observable price Spot
market Hog futures maybe corn SBM
Spot market price Often through a broker USDA
report
Formula ex 53 of 5 month out futures
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15Performance issues
- Least cost method of price discovery
- Effect of the mechanism on price behavior
- Marketing v. pricing efficiency
16Information and markets
- Price reporting
- Role of the government
- Collection and dissemination and timely reporting
of prices that were discovered. - Other private treaty buyers and sellers
incorporate new information into their
negotiation. - Facilitates formula pricing
17Packer Offering Price
- Starts with derived demand from wholesale and
retail markets - Time lag between sales of product and purchase of
animals. - Orders typically booked 3 weeks in advance.
- Special features, holidays etc may be longer.
- Clean up orders may be few days
- Packer is anticipating prices and stands risk
18Derived Demand
Vertical distance is the difference is price at 3
levels There is cost associated with moving from
one level to the next
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19Derived Demand for Pork
- Average retail price /lb 2.50
- Value of trim and scrap /lb 0.10
- Costs from whlse -retail /lb -1.00
- The most retail will pay /lb 1.60
- Retail pounds per carcass 100
- The most retail will pay /head 160
20Derived Demand for Hogs
- Wholesale carcass value /hd 160
- Value hide and offal /hd 25
- Costs to slaughter and fab /hd -20
- The most packer will pay /hd 165
- Wholesale pounds per carcass 200
- The most packer will pay /lb 82.50
21Producer Asking Price
- Starts with cost of production
- Reflects current market conditions
- Time is a huge factor for livestock
- Marginal revenue may decrease
- Marginal cost increases at increasing rate
- Farmer has longer time period than packer from
start of process to end.