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PROPERTY A SLIDES
  • 1-23-15

2
Friday Jan 23 Music Carole King, Tapestry
(1971)
  • Deans Fellow Sessions Start Next Week
  • Tuesday _at_ 930 am in Room F402
  • Friday _at_ 930 am in Room F209 (Here)
  • On Course Page by Noon Tomorrow
  • Panel Assignments
  • Class Assignments for Next Week

3
Special Bonus for On-Time Arrivals
  • Two DISAPPOINTING REVELATIONS ABOUT CHILDHOOD
    FAVORITES ?

FRIday Pop Culture Moment
4
PROPERTY A 1/23
  • (1) ALL FROOT LOOPS TASTE THE SAME REGARDLESS OF
    COLOR
  • (Same For TRIX FRUITY PEBBLES)

FRIday Pop Culture Moment
5
PROPERTY A 1/23
  • (2) The Alphabet Song Twinkle Twinkle Little
    Star Have the Same Melody

FRIday Pop Culture Moment
6
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Necessity (DQ1.06 contd) (Yesterday)
  • Bargaining (DQ1.07)
  • Constitutional Law (DQ1.08)
  • Context of the Case
  • What the Case Says
  • Application

7
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Very important alternative almost always relevant
    in this course is bargaining (private agreement).
  • Let parties negotiate contracts state just
    intervenes to enforce
  • Generally good reasons to rely on private
    bargaining
  • i) usually lower administrative costs than
    regulation
  • ii) autonomy/clarity of interest people better
    than the govt at identifying articulating
    their own interests

8
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
1.07 Could we rely on bargaining to protect the
interests of the workers in Shack? In other
words, if these interests were sufficiently
important to the workers, wouldnt they insist on
making provisions for them in their employment
contracts? Clearly we could interesting Q is
should we?
9
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Are there reasons we might not want to rely on
    bargaining?
  • Are these reasons strong enough to outweigh
    reasons we like bargaining?
  • Start with Q1 Ideas from You or from Case

Should we rely on bargaining to protect MWs
interests? Can break down into two Qs
10
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Reasons we might not want to rely on bargaining?
    Court focuses on two sets of ideas
  • Importance of Needs of MWs Relative Power of
    Parties
  • Parties Relative Access to Information

11
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKEN DQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Importance of Needs of MWs Relative Power of
    Parties
  • The needs of the occupants may be so
    imperative and their strength so weak, that the
    law will deny the occupants the power to contract
    away what is deemed essential to their health,
    welfare, or dignity. (3d para. on S4)
  • These rights are too fundamental to be denied on
    the basis of an interest in real property and too
    fragile to be left to the unequal bargaining
    strength of the parties. (5th para. on S6)
  • NOTE fundamental here is general description
    of importance (v. Fundamental Right as
    Constitutional Term of Art)

12
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Parties Relative Access to Information
  • (See top para. on S5)
  • MWs unaware of rights of available
    opportunities/services.
  • Can be reached only by positive efforts.

13
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.07 Bargaining
  • Are these reasons strong enough to outweigh
    reasons we like bargaining?
  • NJ SCt obviously thinks so you could disagree.
  • Recurring Qs in course re state intervention v.
    private decision-making can use Shack arguments
    re relative need, power, and information.

14
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Necessity (DQ1.06 contd) (Yesterday)
  • Bargaining (DQ1.07)
  • Constitutional Law (DQ1.08)
  • Context of the Case
  • What the Case Says
  • Application

15
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.08 Constitutional Law
  • Ds US as Amicus make several uncertain
    Constitutional Arguments. Most importantly
  • Supremacy Clause Exclusion sanctioned by state
    would interfere w operation of fedl statutes
    providing services to MWs
  • 1st Amdt Under Marsh, resident MWs have right to
    access to speech/information
  • 6th Amdt MWs have right to access to lawyers.

16
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.08 Constitutional Law
Prior students often have incorrectly stated that
Shack turns on the MWs constitutional or
fundamental rights. However, the NJ SCt makes
clear this is wrong by saying that deciding the
case without relying on the state or federal
constitution is more satisfactory.
17
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKENDQ1.08 Constitutional Law
(2d para. on S4) A decision in
nonconstitutional terms is more satisfactory, b/c
the interests of MWs are more expansively served
in that way than they would be if they had no
more freedom than these constitutional concepts
could be found to mandate if indeed they apply at
all. Meaning of more expansively served?
18
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKEN DQ1.08 Constitutional
Law
  • (2d para. on S4) A decision in
    nonconstitutional terms is more satisfactory, b/c
    the interests of MWs are more expansively served
    in that way than they would be if they had no
    more freedom than these constitutional concepts
    could be found to mandate if indeed they apply at
    all.
  • Meaning of more expansively served?
  • Can protect MWs more broadly while addressing
    same concerns. E.g
  • If based in right to counsel, doesnt help w Drs
    or social workers
  • If based on Supremacy Clause, limited to fedl
    programs

19
SHACK ROADS NOT TAKEN DQ1.08 Constitutional
Law
  • (2d para. on S4) A decision in
    nonconstitutional terms is more satisfactory, b/c
    the interests of MWs are more expansively served
    in that way than they would be if they had no
    more freedom than these constitutional concepts
    could be found to mandate if indeed they apply at
    all.
  • Hard Constitutional Qs here.
  • Implicit Common judicial principle Try not to
    decide Constitutional Qs if don't need to
  • Also Note Unlikely subject to USSCt review if
    relying on state law rather than interpreting US
    Constitution

20
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Context of the Case 1971
  • What the Case Says
  • Application

21

Context of Shack 1971
  • Album of Year Tapestry
  • Best Picture The French Connection
  • Introduced to American Public
  • Soft Contact Lenses Amtrak
  • All Things Considered Masterpiece Theatre
  • All in the Family Jesus Christ Superstar
  • The Electric Company Columbo

22

Context of Shack 1971 Deaths
  • Nikita Kruschev Papa Doc Duvalier Thomas Dewey
  • Louis Armstrong Jim Morrison Igor Stravinsky
  • Coco Chanel Ogden Nash Crew of Soyuz 11

23

Context of Shack 1971 Births
  • Shannon Doherty Ewan McGregor Winona Ryder
  • Lance Armstrong Jeff Gordon Pedro Martinez
    Kristi Yamaguchi
  • Mary J Blige Snoop Dogg Ricky Martin Tupac
    Shakur

24

Context of Shack 1971 Headlines
  • Apollo 14 4th Successful Moon Landing
  • USSCt upholds busing of schoolchildren to achieve
    racial balance
  • Nixon Administration (Not Todays Republicans)
  • In 1970 Gets Clean Air Water Acts Enacted
  • Freezes Wages Prices for 90 Days to Fight
    Inflation
  • Wall Street approves of this intervention in
    market
  • Responds w biggest one-day gain in Dow Jones to
    date, 32.93 pts
  • Record volume of 31.7 million shares.
  • Amicus Brief in Shack Favoring Workers on
    Anti-Federalist Theory
  • Focus Rights of people trying to implement
    federal projects
  • Reliance on federal anti-poverty legislation

25

Context of Shack 1971
  • Near the End of Long Post-depression Period of
    Great Faith/Belief In Govt
  • E.g., Deaths of Ex-Presidents (Ford v. Truman/
    Johnson/Eisenhower)
  • Shack Example of strong confidence by courts
    legislatures that they can determine what is in
    best interests of public
  • Might get same result now, but often much less
    sure of selves
  • Likely to be much more concern/rhetoric re Os
    Property Rights

26

Context of Shack 1971 Seeds of Change
  • Vietnam War
  • Troops reduced by about 200,000 but still 184,000
    troops in SE Asia YE1971
  • US Voting Age lowered to 18 from 21 (old enough
    to die old enough to vote)
  • Perceived fiasco in Vietnam (and evidence that
    both Johnson Nixon administrations misled
    public) lowers confidence in Govt

27

Context of Shack 1971 Seeds of Change
  • 2. Concerns About War Made Nixons Reelection
    Seem Problematic
  • 1971 White House staffers assemble key people to
    deal w election CREEP
  • Yields Watergate break-in following spring
  • Scandal greatly undermines authority of govt

28

Context of Shack 1971 Seeds of Change
  • 3. Pres. Nixon appoints William Rehnquist to US
    Supreme Court
  • Shack court in 1971 almost certainly sees itself
    as part of tradition of courts protecting rights
    of minority groups disadvantaged folks (cf.
    Shelley Burton)
  • Appointment foreshadows change in this
    self-perception of courts (cf. Moose Lodge
    Jackson)

29
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Context of the Case
  • What the Case Says
  • Theory of the Case (DQ1.08-1.09)
  • Rules (DQ1.10)
  • Protecting Owners (DQ1.11 1.13)
  • Shack Jacque (DQ1.12)
  • Application

30
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.08-1.09 Theory
of Case
  • NJ SCts characterization of legal issue
  • Not focused on rights of Ds, but on scope of
    right to exclude
  • Under our state law, the ownership of real
    property does not include the right to bar access
    to govtal services to migrant workers (2d para.
    on S4)
  • Source of this assertion? I.e., on what
    non-constitutional legal theory does the court
    rest its decision?

31
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.08-1.09 Theory
of Case
  • NJ SCts Source of Law
  • Court says explicitly not relying on state
    Constitution
  • No specific statute cited
  • Court rejects reliance on Landlord-Tenant law
  • Again, no profit in forcing into conventional
    category
  • Note huge impact to give MWs full tenant rights,
    especially in NJ

32
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.08-1.09 Theory
of Case
  • NJ SCts Source of Law has to be its own
    interpretation of Common Law of Property
  • Tort of trespass general right to exclude
    themselves are judge-made law
  • Prominent exceptions like necessity are
    judge-made law
  • Thus NJ SCt has power to define nature of right
    to exclude

33
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.08-1.09 Theory
of Case
What does the N.J. Supreme Court mean when it
says, Property rights serve human values.
(Start of Part II)?
34
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.08-1.09 Theory
of Case
Why does the NJ SCt include the (LONG) quote from
Powell on Real Property (bottom of S5)?
35
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Context of the Case
  • What the Case Says
  • Theory of the Case (DQ1.08-1.09)
  • Rules (DQ1.10)
  • Protecting Owners (DQ1.11 1.13)
  • Shack Jacque (DQ1.12)
  • Application

36
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.10 Rules
Identify passages in the case that could be used
in future cases as a rule to help decide the
scope of the right to exclude in future similar
cases. Focus on language that might be used to
define circumstances in which the owner cannot
exclude (as opposed to language explaining the
limits that the owners can place on visitors they
are forced to allow).
37
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOES (DQ1.10 Rules)
  • Passages that could be used as a rule to help
    decide the scope of the right to exclude in
    future similar cases
  • Specific Instructions
  • Employer cant exclude fedl state or local
    services or recognized charitable groups
    seeking to assist MWs (3d para. on S6). (This
    would include Wheeler suggestion Under our
    State law the ownership of real property does not
    include the right a bar access to governmental
    services available to MWs (2d para. on S4).
  • The MW must be allowed to receive visitors
    of his own choice, so long as there is no
    behavior hurtful to others (3d para. on S6)

38
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOES (DQ1.10 Rules)
  • Passages that could be used as a rule to help
    decide the scope of the right to exclude in
    future similar cases Specific Instructions
  • Employer may exclude solicitors or peddlers at
    least if the employer's purpose is not to gain a
    commercial advantage for himself. (4th para. on
    S6) (cf. Grapes of Wrath)

39
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOES (DQ1.10 Rules)
  • Passages that could be used as a rule to help
    decide the scope of the right to exclude in
    future similar cases General Instructions
    (Overlapping)
  • Employer cant isolate the MW in any respect
    significant for workers well-being. (3d para.
    on S6)
  • Employer cant deprive the MW of practical
    access to things he needs. (4th para. on S6)

40
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOES (DQ1.10 Rules)
  • Passages that could be used as a rule to help
    decide the scope of the right to exclude in
    future similar cases Very General Instructions
  • Employer may not deny the worker his privacy
    or interfere with his opportunity to live with
    dignity and to enjoy assns customarily enjoyed
    among our citizens. (5th para. on S6)
  • Title to real property cannot include dominion
    over the destiny of persons the owner permits to
    come upon the premises. (3d para. of S4)

41
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOES (DQ1.10 Rules)
Passages that could be used as a rule to help
decide the scope of the right to exclude in
future similar cases Other Passages You
Identified?
42
PROPERTY A (1/23)
  • Shack The Roads Not Taken
  • Context of the Case
  • What the Case Says
  • Theory of the Case (DQ1.08-1.09)
  • Rules (DQ1.10)
  • Protecting Owners (DQ1.11 1.13)
  • Shack Jacque (DQ1.12)
  • Application

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SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • Limits on Shacks Right of Access
  • O can exclude solicitors/peddlers if
  • doesnt deprive MWs of practical access to things
    they need.
  • purpose is not to gain a commercial advantage
  • Os can reasonably require visitors to identify
    selves and state purpose
  • Visitors cannot
  • interfere w farming activities
  • engage in behavior hurtful to others

44
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • Are Limits on Shacks Right of Access Sufficient
    to Protect Os Interests? (Well Get a Few Ideas
    from You)
  • O can exclude solicitors/peddlers if
  • doesnt deprive MWs of practical access to things
    they need.
  • purpose is not to gain a commercial advantage
  • Os can reasonably require visitors to identify
    selves and state purpose
  • Visitors cannot
  • interfere w farming activities
  • engage in behavior hurtful to others

45
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • Are Limits on Shacks Right of Access Sufficient
    to Protect Os Interests? (Three Standard
    Approaches)
  • Identify key interests and discuss whether rules
    adequately address. E.g.,
  • Security
  • Privacy
  • Smooth Operation of Business

46
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • Are Limits on Shacks Right of Access Sufficient
    to Protect Os Interests? (Three Standard
    Approaches)
  • Identify key interests do rules address?
  • Identify alternative/additional rules that might
    work better. E.g.,
  • Limit times of access
  • Limit of people allowed on land
  • Limit frequency of visits

47
SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • Are Limits on Shacks Right of Access Sufficient
    to Protect Os Interests? (Three Standard
    Approaches)
  • Identify key interests do rules address?
  • Identify alternative/additional rules
  • Discuss whether relevant interests are balanced
    properly
  • Workers minimal interest in possible benefits
    from media oversight is less significant than the
    owners interest in the smooth operation of their
    businesses because

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SHACK WHAT THE CASE DOESDQ1.11 1.13
Protections of Os Interests
  • 1.13. You represent the NJ Apple-Growers
    Association .
  • Trade Association Common Type of Organization
    Representing Common Financial Legal Interests
    of Group. E.g.,
  • Joint Advertising of Apple Products
  • Consultation or Group Action re Issues Like
    Taxes, Labor, Safety, Packaging, Consumer
    Protection
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