Title: Communicating at the EOL: Communicating with Patients/Families
1Communicating at the EOL Communicating with
Patients/Families
- Sharing Poor Prognosis
- Stu Farber MD
- sfarber_at_u.washington.edu
- Gregg VandeKieft, MD, MA
- gregg.vandekieft_at_providence.org
- July 2011
2Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Giving Information
- Telling
3Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Sharing Information
- Dialogue
4Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Special Dialogue
- Helping pt/family understand where
- Disease and treatment end
- Aging and the natural life cycle event we call
end of life begins - You have a unique opportunity to assist
- Pre-existing relationship
- We know this conversation effects pt/family choice
5Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Special Dialogue
- Accepting this role takes courage
- To succeed you enter into the pt/family story
(values/goals) - You become a part of the story
- You become vulnerable as another human sharing
the mystery, pain, suffering, joy and wonder of
mortality
6Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Special Dialogue
- When is the right time to have this dialogue?
- Surprise Question Would you be surprised if this
patient died in the next 6-12 months? - If you wouldnt be surprised then it is your
professional responsibility to assist the
patient/family prepare for the worst while
expecting the best
7Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Making it Safe
- Setting the Stage
- within the Concept of Paradox
- Certainty and Uncertainty
- Life and Death
8Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Special Dialogue
- What does the pt/family already know?
- What does the pt/family want to know?
- What does the pt/family need to know?
9Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Communication Basics
- Tell-Ask-Tell
- Ask-Tell-Ask
- Ask(listen) Ask(listen) Ask(listen)-Tell-Ask
- Silence
- Pt/Family Cues
- Terminators
- Continuers
10Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care Case of John
- John is 68 with far advanced lung Ca
- Just out of ICU
- If he lives 24-48 hrs will be a miracle
- He and his family still are asking for tx that
will make him better - You are asked to talk with him and his family
wife, son and daughter
11Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Evidence Based Best Practice
- Set a safe context for dialogue
- Explore the patient/family story
- Use evidence based domains
- Language skill
- Create shared story among pt/family/medical team
- Co-Create care plan among patient, family,
medical team
12Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care My Death Raymond Carver
- If I'm lucky, I'll be wired every which way in a
hospital bed. Tubes running into my nose. - But try not to be scared of me, friends! I'm
telling you right now that this is okay.    It's
little enough to ask for at the end. - Someone, I hope, will have phoned everyone to
say,"Come quick, he's failing!"And they will
come. - And there will be time for meto bid goodbye to
each of myloved ones....  Â
13Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
- Late Fragment
- And did you get what you wanted
- from this life, even so?
- I did.
- And what did you want?
- To call myself beloved.
- To feel myself beloved on the earth.
- Raymond Carver
14Caring Conversations Transitioning from Cure to
Care
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