Title: If I Can
1If I Cant Balance My Checkbook, How Can I Help
You Balance Yours?
- Jerry Bauerkemper, BS,CCGC
- Executive Director
- Nebraska Council on Compulsive Gambling
- Email Exnccgjb_at_aol.com
2About the Presenter
Jerry Bauerkemper, BS, CCGC Executive Director
of the Nebraska Council on Compulsive
Gambling Jerry Bauerkemper, BS, CCGC is the
Executive Director of the Nebraska Council on
Compulsive Gambling Mr. Bauerkemper was the
first director of problem gambling for the state
of Nebraska. He is an internationally recognized
trainer on Problem Gambling. He received the
First Step award for his work with Gamblers.
3GAMBLE
- To play for money to risk, especially by
financial speculation to lose or squander in
speculative ventures a risking undertaking, a
reckless speculation. - -Websters Dictionary
4You Just Won the LotteryTake several minutes
and write down what you would do with Lottery
winningsRecovering gamblers skip this
assignment
5How did you feel doing the assignment
- Did you have pleasant thoughts?
- Did you get excited?
- Did you have negative anxious thoughts?
- Welcome to the world of the gambler!
6If I Cant Balance My Checkbook, How Can I Help
You Balance Yours?
- Money vs Action
- -Gamblers Never Lose
- -Time Money Opportunity to Gamble
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7Whats money got to do with it?
8The reason we should talk about money.
- 73 of Americans report that money issues are
their 1 stressor ahead of work, physical health,
and children. - American Psychological Association Survey, March
31, 2004
9Results from Gamblers Focus Groups
- Gamblers wanted to talk about money the first
session - Gamblers and family members were very concerned
about referrals/support group confidentiality - Counselors need an understanding and a
willingness to work on debt
10A Brief Money Exercise
- 1. People with money are
- 2. When I have money, I usually
- 3. My Dad thought money was
- 4. My Mom thought money was
- 5. If I could afford it, I would.
- 6. Money makes people
- 7. To have more money, I need to.
- 8. In my family, money always caused
11A Brief Money Exercise
- 9. If I had more money, Im afraid I would
- 10. Money is
- What else do you know about money as a result of
the life you have lived so far? - --Open for discussion
- www.1800betsoff.org Tool Chest Brian H. Farr,
LPC
12What does money mean to the problem gambler
and/or family member?
- Have the client define
- Money
- Values
- Beliefs
13DSM V
- How many of the criteria have to do with money
and finances?
14Diagnostic Criteria DSM V
- Persistent and Recurrent Maladaptive Gambling
- 1. Preoccupied with gambling-past experiences,
handicapping, planning next venture, planning
ways to get money to gamble. - 2. Needs to gamble with increasing amounts of
money in order to achieve desired excitement. - 3. Has repeated unsuccessful efforts to control,
cut back or stop gambling. - 4. Is restless or irritable when trying to cut
down or stop gambling. - 5. Gambles as a way to escape problems or
relieve dysphoric mood e.g., guilt, helplessness,
anxiety, depression. -
15Diagnostic Criteria DSM V
- 6. After losing money returns to get even or
Chasing ones losses. - 7. Lies to family, therapist or others to
conceal the extent of involvement with gambling. - 8. Jeopardized or lost a significant
relationship, job, or educational or career
opportunity because of gambling. - 9. Relies on others to provide money to relieve
a desperate financial situation caused by
gambling (Bailout). - B. Gambling is not better accounted for by a
Manic Episode. -
16I dont want to be a Financial Counselor
- Majority of work done by client
- Do this in steps not all at once
- Homework is best
- Spend 15-20 minutes per session for 5 weeks
- Spend 5 minutes per week after the budget made
- Family recovery based on family buy in
17I dont want to be a Financial Counselor
- Week 1 send home Assets and liabilities form
- Week 2 send home snapshot form
- Week 3 Send home budget planning form
- Week 4 review budget plan
- Week 5 Concentrate on bills you can help reduce
or eliminate based on priorities
18Step 1
- Divide a piece of notebook paper in half
- Top half Write Assets Explain it as income
sources - Bottom half write Liabilities Explain it as
bills and who you owe - Send this home with them to begin to identify who
and what they owe
19Step 2SNAPSHOT Your Average Month
- Date ______________
- EXPENSES (Money Moving Out) EACH MONTH
- Rent/Mortgage/Property Tax/Home Insurance
________________ - Home Repairs and Maintenance (Average)
________________ - Auto Payments and Auto Insurance
________________ - Groceries and Household Supplies (Average)
________________
20SNAPSHOT Your Average Month
- Medical/Dental/Therapy/Prescriptions (Average)
________________ - Insurance Premiums (Medical, Disability, Life)
________________ - TOTAL MONTHLY EXPENSES ________________
- Information provided by Brian H. Farr, MA, LPC,
NCGC-II - www.1800betsoff.org www.bhfarr.com
21Step 3 Budget planning form
- Expense Item
- How Much
- How Often
- Monthly Amount
22First Budget Planning formclients write down
expenses
- Housing
- Rent, mortgage
- Insurance
- Taxes
- Electricity
- Gas
- Water
- Sanitation
23Automobile
Payment 1
Payment 2
Insurance
Gas
Maintenance
License/Taxes
Other
Other Transportation
Insurance
Life
Medical
Other
Financial Planning
Savings
Investments
Retirement
College Savings
24Food
Groceries
School lunches
Eating out
Other
Debts
Credit Card 1
Credit Card 2
Credit Card 3
Loan
Other
Other
25Debts
Credit Card 1
Credit Card 2
Credit Card 3
Loan
Other
Other
Medical
Doctor
Doctor
Dentist
Prescriptions
Other
26Children
Tuition
Child Care
Activities/Sports
Babysitter
Academic materials
Hair cuts
Clothing
Allowance
Child support paid out
Other
Other
27Recreation/Entertainment
Activities
Vacations/Trips
Subscriptions
Club Membership
Other
Adults
Barber
Beauty Salon
Clothing
Cell phone
Alimony paid out
Toiletries
Cosmetics
Union/Club dues
Counseling/Therapy
Other
Other
28Miscellaneous
Pet Food
Pet Care
Cleaning supplies
Laundry supplies
Paper goods
Postage
Film/Photos
Other
Other
Gifts
Monetary donations
Christmas/Holiday
Birthdays/Anniversaries
Cards
Other
Other
29Income Source
Primary Employment
Secondary Employment
Inheritance
Child Support
Alimony
Disability
State Assistance
Property Income
Spouse or S.O.s Income
Donations/Gifts
Other
Other
Total Income
Minus Expenses
Total amount available for repayment
30List of Creditors This sheet is to compile the
list of bills that are not regular monthly
expenses which would go on your Expense Sheet.
Here, list all other onetime bills in the
following order 1) Bad checks or debts for
which you may be prosecuted, 2) Court ordered
judgments, 3) Credit Unions, 4) Bank or
Finance Company loans, 5) Back Taxes, 6) Credit
Cards, 7) Bookmakers and loan sharks, 8) Family
and Friends, 9) Other
Creditor Name Balance Owed Payment Due Monthly Payment Months in Default Co-Signer
31Step 4Review budget planning form
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32 Creating a Realistic Spending Plan
- Write out a plan
- List monthly sources of income
- List extra sources of income
- List basic monthly household expenses
33Spending Plan-Step 1Identify Income Sources
- Wages after taxes (Others)
- Investment income (dividends, interest, etc.)
- Social security
- Welfare payments
- Child support/alimony payments
- Other
- Wages after taxes (Gambler)
- Tips/Commissions (Average each month)
- Pension/Retirement plan benefits
- Unemployment benefits
- Food stamps
- Trust fund
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34Spending Plan-Step 2List Expenses
- Rent/mortgage payment, groceries (average),
utilities (average), telephone, home
maintenance/repair (average), savings, clothing
(average), car payment, car insurance/gas/repairs
(average), other transportation, life/medical
insurance premiums (average), homeowners/renters
insurance, medical bills (average), child care,
gamblers allowance, loans/credit card payments,
taxes, entertainment (average), cable TV, meals
out (average), sports activities/events
(average), charitable contributions, gifts
(average), cigarettes/alcohol (average), long
distance telephone (average), travel/vacations
(average), gambling debts (this guide will
explain later why this should be a low priority),
other - Total Expenses ____________________
35Determine the Amount of Debt and List Creditors
- Car loans
- Credit Cards
- Home equity loans or second mortgages
- Furniture loans
- Department stores
- Payday loans
- Bank loans
- Medical bills
- Utility bills
- Back taxes
- Child support
- Education loans
36Spending Plan-Step 3Compare Income/Expenses
- Total Income from Step 1 ___________
- Total Income from Step 2 ___________
- Subtract expenses from Income __________
37Spending Plan-Step 4Make Adjustments
- If there is not enough income to cover expenses,
you have three choices - Earn additional income, such as through a second
job or a better paying job - Reduce expenses
- Reduce expenses and boost income
- Income and expenses change over time. Review the
spending plan every few months and make
adjustments if necessary
38Monthly Financial Report
Gross Income
Salary
Dividends/Interest
Other
LESS
1. Giving
2. Taxes
NET SPENDABLE INCOME
39Identifying Assets and Sources of Income
- Items missing from the house
- Furniture
- Appliances
- Other valuables that could have been sold for
cash - A check from an insurance company to pay for
property damage (such as roof or car) - Ignoring financial obligations, such as quarterly
estimated tax payments - Is there a chance the gambler may try to sell
personal assets through an on-line auction?
40Budget Creation Continued
3. Housing Amount
Mortgage/Rent
Insurance
Taxes
Electricity
Gas
Water
Sanitation
Telephone
Maintenance
Other
41Budget Creation Continued
4. Food Amount
School Lunch
Groceries
5. Automobiles
Payments
Gas
Insurance
License/Taxes
Maintenance
Other Transportation
Other
42Budget Creation Continued
6. Insurance Amount
Life
Medical
Other
7. Debts
Credit Cards
Loans
Other
438. Recreational amount Needed?
Eating Out
Activities
Trips/Vacations
Subscriptions
Cable
Internet
Club memberships
Babysitter
Other
44Budget Creation Continued
9. Clothing Amount Needed?
Adults
Children
10. Financial Planning
Savings
Investments
Retirement
College Savings
45Budget Creation Continued
11. Medical Amount Behind?
Doctors
Dentist
Prescriptions
Counseling/Therapy
Other
46Budgeting Monies For Gambling Treatment
- The treatment of a gambling addiction can be
difficult, time-consuming, and costly. Most
medical insurance policies and managed care
providers dont pay for the treatment. Some
health plan carriers pay for treatment only if
the patient suffers from additional disorders
such as alcoholism, drug addiction, or
depression. Consequently, the gambler may need to
pay for treatment out of his or her pocket and
this must be factored into the budget. - Gambling clients may ask you to reduce fees
because of financial problems. Experts commonly
recommend that therapists no reduce fees as this
is seen as another form of bailout.
47Budget Creation Continued
12. Miscellaneous Amount
Pet Food/Care
Cleaning Supplies
Paper/Plastic goods
Laundry and supplies
Postage
Film/Photos
Hair Care
Toiletries/Cosmetics
Other
Other
48Budget Creation Continued
13. Children Amount
Child support paid out
Tuition
Child Care
Activities/Sports
School Materials
Allowance
Other
Other
49Budget Creation Continued
14. Adults Amount
Alimony paid out
Union/Club dues
Cell Phone
Allowance
Other
Other
15. Gifts
Monetary Donations
Christmas/Holidays
Birthdays/Anniversaries
Cards
Other
50Budget Creation Continued
15. Gifts Amount
Monetary Donations
Christmas/Holidays
Birthdays/Anniversaries
Cards
Other
51Final stage of Budget
Total Expenses Amount
INCOME VS. EXPENSES
Net Spendable Income
Less Expenses
TOTAL
Child support received
Alimony Received
Unallocated Surplus
Adjusted Total
52Step 5 Prioritize bills to be paid off
- Concentrate on emergency needs first (mortgage,
electric bill, gas, childcare) - Second medical and auto insurance needs
- Third high interest loans (credit cards cash
advance) - Fourth Friends and family
- Fifth Illegal loans etc
53Important Questions
- Do you have any legal charges pending or fear of
possible charges, i.e. insufficient fund checks,
kited checks, advanced checks, theft,
embezzlement, drug charges, forgery, credit card
theft, insurance fraud, DWI, back child support,
assault? - A Chance for Change Book 5 Florida Council on
Compulsive Gambling
54Important Questions (cont.)
- Outstanding Debt
- Mortgages, 1st, 2nd, 3rd
- Life Insurance
- Credit Card Debt
- Utilities
- Car Payments
- Child Support
- Business Loan
55Important Questions (cont.)
- Outstanding Debt
- Friends Family
- Bookies
- Check Advance
- Gambling Establishments
- Collection Agencies
- Courts, Fines, Restitution
56Internet Gambling, Credit Reports
- Is there a computer in the house thats hooked up
to the Internet? Web browsers, the software that
allows the user to navigate the Web, contain a
record of what Web sites were recently visited. A
check of Web browsers might reveal on-line
gambling. - Credit reports can be obtained from one of three
credit bureaus - Equifax (800) 685-1111
- Experian (888) 397-3742
- Trans Union (800) 645-1933
- http//www.ftc.gov/freereports
- https//www.annualcreditreport.com/cra/index.jsp
57How to reduce credit card offers
- Call 1-888-567-8688 and ask for your name to be
removed from the mailing list.
58Possible Immediate Financial Actions
- Working With the Loved One
- Provide an overview of the strategies problem
gamblers might take. - Explain the possible financial consequences of
continuing to gamble. - Ask the gambler to list his/her creditors and how
much they are owed. - Have the non-gambler hide, cut up or cancel
credit cards. - Have the non-gambler change the personal
identification numbers. - Store valuables in a safe-deposit box.
- Recommend that someone other than the gambler
take over paying household bills. - Personal Financial Strategies for Loved ones
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59How to Work Financially with the Problem Gambler
- At a minimum, there are financial issues you
should be - familiar with in order to help the gambler
recover. - These actions include
- Identifying income and assets the gambler can use
to feed his/her habit - Establishing a spending plan
- Shifting control of the finances to the
non-gambler - Setting up a repayment plan for gambling and
non-gambling debts - Avoiding bankruptcy
- Deciding whether to have an investment program
60Possible Immediate Financial Actions
- The loved ones may have been bailing out the
gambler on occasion by loaning him/her money to
satisfy gambling debts. - Refusing bailouts not only slows or stops the
financial bleeding, but may force the problem
gambler to finally confront his/her addiction.
61The Gamblers Stash
- A stash is any source for cash that the problem
gambler does not disclose to a spouse, partner,
treatment professional, financial advisor, or
others attempting to help the gamblers recovery.
It might be cash stuffed in an unknown safe
deposit box, an unreported credit card, pawned
jewelry, unreported pay from work, a secret bank
account, or individuals such as a loan shark.
Income from a business the gambler owns,
especially a business that deals a lot in cash
can be easy to hide.
62The Gamblers Stash
- To uncover these stashes, begin by asking the
problem gambler to tell you about them. Be firm
and blunt. Jog the gamblers memory by
suggesting places he/she may have hidden
moneyjust in case the gambler cant remember.
Emphasize that lack of cooperation and honesty
will only make the financial and psychological
recovery efforts more difficult. A loved one
familiar with the gamblers finances also may be
able to help the gambler remember.
63Pay Your Monthly Bills SimplyThe Envelope Method
- Manage your monthly payments with a simple system
that keeps everything you need in one place.
After you establish the system, you will find
that paying your bills becomes more streamlined
and less of a struggle. - Bill-Paying Kit (to keep everything you need in
one place) - ? Some large manila envelopes labeled
- Bills to be paid by the 10th
- Bills to be paid by the 25th
- Charge card receipts
- Paid youll need a new Paid envelope for
each month (or quarter). - ? Stamps
- ? Blank envelopes and return address labels
- ? Small calculator, pens, pencils, markers
- ? Zip-Loc bag for keeping smaller items together
- ? Basket, bag or folder that is large enough to
hold all the items in your Kit - http//www.betterbudgeting.com/articles/money/budg
etbuilding101.htm - http//financialsoft.about.com/od/glossaryindexe/f
/Envelope_Budget.htm
64Pay Your Monthly Bills SimplyThe Envelope Method
- Bill-Paying System
- On your calendar, write yourself reminders on the
10th and the 25th of each month Pay Bills. - When you receive a bill or statement, open the
envelope on the same day it arrives. Keep only
the bill and the return envelope. Toss any
offers, notices or other loose papers. Put the
bill into the manila envelope labeled Bills to
be paid by the 10th or Bills to be paid by the
25th. - On the 10th of the month and the 25th of the
month, take out your Bill-Paying Kit. - 1. Before you write this months check, look at
the balance on the current bill or statement to
verify that last months payment was credited to
your account. - 2. Write the check, and write your account number
on the face of the check to ensure that your
payment will be properly credited.
65Pay Your Monthly Bills SimplyThe Envelope Method
- 3. Enter the check number and the payment amount
into your check register. - 4. Write the payment amount, the check number and
the date on the face of the bill or statement.
Put the bill or statement into the Paid
envelope for this month (or quarter). - 5. Put a stamp on the return envelope. Put the
check and the return statement inside, making
sure that the address shows in the envelope
window. - 6. Put stamped envelopes in your coat pocket or
on top of your briefcase or purse for mailing. - If you like technology and if you are
comfortable with technology you may want to
investigate electronic bill paying. Automatic
deductions and/or Internet bill-paying can
simplify financial paperwork. Of course,
electronic bill-paying is not a good idea if your
bank accounts are not stable, i.e., if you
frequently have over-drafts. - Source ADD Friendly Ways to Organize Your Life,
Judith Kolberg Kathleen Nadeau adapted by
Brian H. Farr, MA, 2005 www.bhfarr.com
66Tips On Cutting Expenses
- Sticking to a shopping list
- Shopping for bargains and sales
- Comparing prices
- Using coupons
- Eating out less often
- http//www.bellaonline.com/articles/art34742.asp
67Additional Budgeting Tips
- Recommend breaking larger periodic bills (i.e.
auto insurance) into smaller monthly bills - Have a non-gambling significant other put that
amount each month into savings account or cash in
envelope - If an envelope is used, it should be hidden from
the gambler - Advise gambler to use small notebook for tracking
miscellaneous cash expenses (coffee, movie,
etc.). Incorporate into spending plan - Have gambler mark on calendar when bills are due.
Bills paid on time improve individuals credit
rating and eliminate the expense of late payment
charges
68Limiting Gamblers Access To Money
- Have a spouse, partner, parents, a trusted friend
or relative, or a third party serve as a
roadblock to the gamblers money - Can be as simple as putting the problem gambler
on an allowance or as extensive as transferring
legal control of all assets into the sole name of
the trusted individual - Before taking drastic financial steps, encourage
the family to seek professional financial, tax,
and/or legal advise
69Establish Controls For Paying Household Bills
- Non-gambler assume management of daily household
finances (includes payment of all bills). Gambler
may assist, but only under supervision - Pay as many bills possible automatically through
bank or credit union - Paychecks, social security, pension payments,
etc. should be automatically deposited whenever
possible - For checks that cannot be deposited
automatically, the gambler should be encouraged
to hand over the checks to a non-gambler to
deposit into the appropriate accounts
70Retirement Accounts
- Gambler who raids retirement accounts for
gambling funds subjects those withdrawals to
income and penalty taxes - The money taken out can no longer grow tax
deferred - Gambler may have to face the possibility that
he/she can never afford to retire
71Mortgage Refinancing Or Home Equity Loans
- If gambler fails to repay the loan, he/she could
lose the familys home - One way to reduce the risk is for the gambler to
transfer ownership of the home so he/she doesnt
have access to loan monies
72Gambling Winnings
- Any gambling winnings won while gambling in
treatment should not go toward paying bills - Money should be put in childrens trust or
- Money should be donated to charity
- NO WINNINGS SHOULD CONTRIBUTE TO ALLIEVIATING
GAMBLING PROBLEM
73Repaying Gambling Debts
- Debts may be a major cause of friction and worry
in household - Relieving the debt burden can reduce the problem
gamblers anxiety and guilt, and help in recovery - Debt repayment must be done in a way that is
different from how a non-gambling household would
normally reduce debt
74Establish A Debt Repayment Plan
- Avoid quick repayment of debts, especially
gambling debts. Although this means higher total
interest payments, it reminds the gambler of the
nightmare that his/her addiction has created - Avoid loan consolidations or refinancing a home.
This may embolden the gambler to return to
betting and pile new debt on old - Some debts may require a higher priority than
others. Some creditors may not accept reduced
payments. Creditors with secured loans may
threaten to repossess the property
75Tax Issues
- Problem gamblers often owe back income taxes,
resulting in additional penalties and interest
charges - Gamblers often underreport their income
- Although the gambler ideally should have stopped
gambling at this point, taxes may be owed on
previous winnings. Unless gambler has carefully
documented losses, he/she wont be able to write
off losses against any wins - Money pulled out of tax-deferred retirement
accounts to pay gambling debts is subject to
regular income taxes. Younger than 59 ½ years
will probably have to pay 10 penalty - Gamblers often underreport their income. If the
IRS catches them, it will assess back taxes,
penalties, and interest. - http//www.irs.gov/faqs/index.html tax questions
76Declaring Bankruptcy Is A Last Resort
- Chapter 13 http//www.uscourts.gov/FederalCourts/
Bankruptcy/BankruptcyBasics/Chapter13.aspx - Any individual, even if self-employed or
operating an unincorporated business, is eligible
for chapter 13 relief as long as the individual's
unsecured debts are less than 360,475 and
secured debts are less than 1,081,400. 11 U.S.C.
109(e). These amounts are adjusted periodically
to reflect changes in the consumer price index. A
corporation or partnership may not be a chapter
13 debtor. Id.An individual cannot file under
chapter 13 or any other chapter if, during the
preceding 180 days, a prior bankruptcy petition
was dismissed due to the debtor's willful failure
to appear before the court or comply with orders
of the court or was voluntarily dismissed after
creditors sought relief from the bankruptcy court
to recover property upon which they hold liens.
11 U.S.C. 109(g), 362(d) and (e). In addition,
no individual may be a debtor under chapter 13 or
any chapter of the Bankruptcy Code unless he or
she has, within 180 days before filing, received
credit counseling from an approved credit
counseling agency either in an individual or
group briefing. 11 U.S.C. 109, 111. There are
exceptions in emergency situations or where the
U.S. trustee (or bankruptcy administrator) has
determined that there are insufficient approved
agencies to provide the required counseling. If a
debt management plan is developed during required
credit counseling, it must be filed with the
court.
77Chapter 7http//www.uscourts.gov/FederalCourts/Ba
nkruptcy/BankruptcyBasics/Chapter7.aspx
- To qualify for relief under chapter 7 of the
Bankruptcy Code, the debtor may be an individual,
a partnership, or a corporation or other business
entity. 11 U.S.C. 101(41), 109(b). Subject to
the means test described above for individual
debtors, relief is available under chapter 7
irrespective of the amount of the debtor's debts
or whether the debtor is solvent or insolvent. An
individual cannot file under chapter 7 or any
other chapter, however, if during the preceding
180 days a prior bankruptcy petition was
dismissed due to the debtor's willful failure to
appear before the court or comply with orders of
the court, or the debtor voluntarily dismissed
the previous case after creditors sought relief
from the bankruptcy court to recover property
upon which they hold liens. 11 U.S.C. 109(g),
362(d) and (e). In addition, no individual may be
a debtor under chapter 7 or any chapter of the
Bankruptcy Code unless he or she has, within 180
days before filing, received credit counseling
from an approved credit counseling agency either
in an individual or group briefing. 11 U.S.C.
109, 111. There are exceptions in emergency
situations or where the U.S. trustee (or
bankruptcy administrator) has determined that
there are insufficient approved agencies to
provide the required counseling. If a debt
management plan is developed during required
credit counseling, it must be filed with the
court. - One of the primary purposes of bankruptcy is to
discharge certain debts to give an honest
individual debtor a "fresh start." The debtor has
no liability for discharged debts. In a chapter 7
case, however, a discharge is only available to
individual debtors, not to partnerships or
corporations. 11 U.S.C. 727(a)(1). Although an
individual chapter 7 case usually results in a
discharge of debts, the right to a discharge is
not absolute, and some types of debts are not
discharged. Moreover, a bankruptcy discharge does
not extinguish a lien on property.
78Where to find forms
- http//www.idph.state.ia.us/IGTP/Toolchest.aspx
- Exnccgjb_at_aol.com (request financial forms
- http//www.fool.com/personal-finance/general/2007/
08/28/budgeting-101.aspx - Motley Fool website
79- For more information contact
- Jerry Bauerkemper
- NCCG
- 402-699-6810
- Exnccgjb_at_aol.com
- Nebraskacouncil.com