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Title: My Confusion Surrounding NFPA Standards and Rope Rescue Equipment


1
My Confusion Surrounding NFPA Standards and Rope
Rescue Equipment
2
  • Excerpts taken from Jim Kovachs ITRS
    presentation with permission.
  • Presentation called Why the fire service should
    ingnore NFPA 1983

3
How it started...
  • I started as a rescuer
  • Was involved in equipment purchasing
  • Wanted to ensure the correct legislation/standards
    were followed
  • Received conflicting information from others in
    the field
  • Looked at other rescue providers

4
Just so we are clear...
  • I support the use of NFPA standards
  • I follow them in my training courses
  • Other equipment I do use that is not NFPA rated
    meets or exceeds their requirements

5
First Conflicting Advice
  • You should only use NFPA rated equipment
  • (based on the 1983 standard)

6
First ProblemRope rescue gear that is not
covered by NFPA...
  • Belay devices
  • Prussik cord
  • Webbing
  • Stretchers and litters
  • Casualty harnesses (rescue diaper)
  • Load releasing hitches
  • Bridles

7
So what does your organization use for belay???
  • 540 is rated as L or G to
  • NFPA 1983 under pulleys
  • The MPD is G
  • rated under the
  • designation of pulley and descent control
    device

8
Standards NFPA has, that most rescue teams dont
use
  • NFPA 1951 for helmets (The majority of rescue
    teams use the petzl Vertex or Erin Roc)
  • Portable anchors in 1983 for tripods (there is
    only 1 on the market for purchase anyway..)
  • Anchor straps in 1983 (most teams use webbing or
    the PMI Vari Rigger, neither are NFPA rated)

9
First Conclusion
  • You require gear that is not NFPA rated
  • Dont just choose gear because of the standard
    but because of
  • Safety factor
  • System compatibility

10
Second conflict
  • NFPA states that you can not use L-rated
    equipment for a 2 person load, only G-rated

Do they????
11
NFPA 1983
  • Old versions for G rated equipment stated
  • 600 lb MWL 2- person
  • New version states
  • The definition of general use is One
    designation of equipment item or manufactured
    systems designed for general-use loads, light-use
    loads, and escape based on design loads and
    performance requirements. End of quote. The
    key phrase here is based on design loads.

12
  • Why the change?
  • Why did they remove the 2-person 600 lb
    statement?
  • Who is 1983 for?
  • Is a 2 person rescue load really 280kg?

13
More confusion...
  • G rope MBS 40kN
  • G pulleys MBS 36kN
  • G Descent control device MBS 22
  • G pick off strap 27 kN
  • G rated auxiliary equipment have 6 different
    MBS 45kN, 40kN, 36Kn, 27kN, 22kN and 11 kN????

14
As an instructor I was told..
  • You cant use 11mm rope for rescue on our site,
    it is only L rated!
  • 11mm New England KMIII rope MBS 35 kN
  • The G rated friction device I use to control the
    rescue load MBS 22kN
  • Why cant I use it?

15
Excerpt from Jim Kovachs ITRS presentation in
2005
  • One of the questions submitted to the NFPA was
    Can light-use life safety rope be used to support
    multiple persons (two or more)? These are the
    answers received from the NFPA. Mr. Frank
    Florence, the NFPA Staff Liaison to 1006 gave the
    following opinion.
  •  
  • Question Can light-use life safety rope be used
    to support multiple persons (two or more)?
  •  
  • Answer Rope use techniques are outside the scope
    of this document. Rope standards are covered in
    NFPA 1983, Standard on Fire Service Life Safety
    Rope and System Components.

16
  • The question submitted to Bruce Teele, the NFPA
    Staff Liaison to 1983 for the 2001 edition was
    different but relevant
  •  
  • Question How is the design load for life safety
    rope determined?
  •  
  • Answer Users of rope need to consider the types
    of operations expected to be performed, the loads
    the rope is expected to bear, and set purchase
    specifications at or above the requirements of
    NFPA 1983 to assure the safety deemed necessary
    for such operations and loads will be met by
    their equipment.

17
  • Questions 1 and 2 Is it the intent of 1983
    to establish a safety factor for rope or
    auxiliary equipment? If so, what is the safety
    factor?
  • Answer On Questions 1 and 2, The scope
    statements in Section 1 of NFPA 1983 do not
    address safety factors but do address that the
    standard is based on minimum design, performance,
    testing, and certification requirements. Safety
    factors, as such, are not specified in NFPA 1983.

18
  • Mr. Donald C. Cooper, past secretary and current
    chairman of 1670, supplied the following opinion
    during a telephone conversation
  •  
  • Question Can light-use life safety rope be used
    to support multiple persons (two or more)?
  •  
  • Answer NFPA 1670 does not describe how specific
    techniques are done, nor does it prohibit any
    technique. That would be up to the AHJ.

19
As Jim Kovach put it.....
  • And here is another question for the fire
    service. If we can use a general use rated
    descender with a MBS of 4,946 lbf or a general
    use rated rope grab with a MBS of 2,500 lbf,
    then why cant we use an aluminum carabiner with
    a light use rating of 6,069 lbf along with
    them? Thats a rating of 1,123 pounds stronger
    than the general use descender and 3,569 pounds
    stronger than the general use rating of the
    rope grab.

20
Conclusion 2
  • Chose gear certified to an approved/recognized
    standard with a MBS that fits within your safety
    factor
  • Focus more on studying and understanding our
    system safety factors and less on a standard that
    was not written for us

21
Third Conflict
  • The NFPA states that you must achieve a 151
    safety factor
  • or
  • The NFPA states that you must achieve a 101
    safety factor
  • Does the NFPA recommend a safety factor?

22
  • Conversation from chat posts on firehall.com

23
From Jim Kovachs report
  • Questions concerning NFPA 1670 were answered in a
    telephone conversation with the chairman of that
    committee.
  •  
  • Question Does 1670 require or recommend a 151
    safety factor for rope rescue?
  • Answer No
  •  
  • Question Does 1670 require or recommend a 101
    safety factor for rope rescue?
  • Answer No
  •  
  • Question Does 1670 have a required or
    recommended safety factor for rope rescue?
  • Answer NFPA does not require or specify any
    safety factor.

24
  • Question Does 1500 require a 151 safety factor
    for rope rescue?
  •  
  • Answer NFPA 1500 requires life safety rope meet
    NFPA 1983.
  •  
  • Question Does 1500 require a certain safety
    factor for rope rescue? If so, what is it?
  •  
  • Answer NFPA 1500 requires life safety rope meet
    NFPA 1983.

25
  • The 151 safety factor myth came from NFPA 1983
    (old versions) where they stated for the
    manufacturers that life safety rope is to be
    designed with a SWL of 600lbf and a MBS of
    9000lbf
  • I have come across Depts who have 16mm rope
    trying to achieve this!

26
  • It is up to your organization what your static
    system safety factor will be
  • Choose it because it meets your risk assessments
  • 101 is a standard industry practice

27
Conclusion
  • Before we quote standards , we must know for sure
  • Just because someone says it doesn't make it true
  • Choose equipment that fits within your SSSF
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