Title: Week 6 2 lectures NB Catherine Dishington 11
1Week 6 (2 lectures)NB Catherine Dishington _at_11
- Scottish Executive, Scottish Government and
Devolved Policy
2Links to other seminars
- New politics v executive at centre
- Executive- legislative relations
- Scottish Political System is there one now?
- The scope for convergence/ divergence
- finance arrangements
- interest groups where do they lobby?
3Plan for 2 lectures
- Discussion of Scottish Executive ministers and
Scottish Executive civil service - Outline of devolved responsibilities
- Blurred reserved/ devolved boundaries and MLG
- Case study of consultation documents
- Where do groups lobby?
- How do the executives address these issues?
- UK power by default or Scottish autonomy?
4Ministers in the Scottish Executive
- Comparison of Scottish and UK executives
- Cabinet system, but smaller size and scope in
Scotland - Terms of office similar
- FM needs Scottish Parliament approval in theory
- Biggest constraint is pool of recruitment
- Free reign of FM to intervene in policy,
qualified by strength of centre and type of FM - Cabinet government more likely in Scotland?
- Undermined by lack of enforcement
- Fewer Cabinet Committees
- Appointment from Lords
5Coalition government
- Coalition reflects strength of parties
- LDs select and veto their own members
- Relative LD success in 1999 now reinforced in
2003? - Most Lab and LD policies coincide?
- LD successes watered down and at expense of
selling Labour policy? - LDs more prepared for coalition key was formal
partnership agreement
6Ministers without ministries
- Fosters joined-up government or muddle?
- Divisions base on historical legacy
- Minister for everything undermines argument
that the system is there for joined up policy
rather than political patronage - Example of Enterprise and LLL. Still strong
functional basis for activity and UK vertical
links. - Example of SQA
7The Civil Service - summary
- Stumbling block to change?
- Neglected area of SCC study
- Legacy of attitude to and functions of Scottish
Office - Civil service ill equipped for new role
information overload and low policy capacity - UK influence?
8The civil service constrains divergence?
- maintenance of the unified Home Civil Service
.. was one of the checks and balances of the
devolution settlement, designed to prevent any
drift towards conflict and isolation
Intergovernmental relations with officials have
rested not on legal status but on a mutual trust
and a recognition of a common approach that of
a professional, non-partisan service engaging
with the political priorities of their ministers.
9Role of civil service
- Tempting to see its role as
- as a break on innovation and an obstacle to
reform pretty untouched by the change in
constitutional arrangements and political style
ushered in by the advent of a democratically
elected Scottish Parliament - This view has been openly articulated by former
Ministers ... and echoed by academic and
independent commentators.
10Basis for viewing the civil service in this
light (1) The UK caricature
- (a) there is a general tendency to see the civil
service in a certain light based on UK
experience and - (b) this informs a sort of face value assessment
of Scottish civil service inertia
11However
- Since 1979 the UK literature has stressed a
challenge to this role - including attempts to
reduce CS numbers under Thatcher and Blair, the
personalisation of promotion, efficiency
scrutinies, Financial Management Initiative, Next
Steps, delayering, and the greater use of
advisers
12Alternative picture just as likely
- (a) senior civil servants more engaged with
managerial rather than policy work (b)
delayering which allows ministerial contact with
relatively low grades of civil servants engaged
in specialist policy work and (c) an increased
role for outside policy advice. - In other words, it is difficult to paint this
picture in Scotland on the old UK basis
13(2) New politics ignorance of the executive left
much civil service discretion and a continued
Whitehall/ centralising influence.
- Pyper outlines lack of e.g. CSG attention to the
civil service - This left detailed design to the civil service
itself (organisational rather than policy) - The result was an inherited civil service facing
a new, dynamic Scottish Parliament and devolved
Scottish Executive
14This point highlights theme of inherited v
dynamic elements
- Senior civil service appointments
- Discretion over public sector pay
- Limits on size/ role of special advisors
- Inheritance through neglect led to Westminster
style of accountability? - Scottish Parliament frustration down to
misunderstanding of civil service role
15(3) The legacy of the Scottish Office
- Siege mentality in Conservative years an
exaggeration? - Different ways of working
- Rise of parliamentary scrutiny (point scoring?)
- Support for larger ministerial team
- Information overload
- Need for policy capacity
- This required a change of style and pace which
the civil service appeared unable to deliver in
the first 2 years.
16Similar Keating discussion
- The civil service role went from filtering up to
Whitehall and managing implementation, to policy
initiation which requires different skills. This
involves, a whole new game of dealing with
interest groups, now better organised, more vocal
and with an outlet in the Parliament.
17Policy capacity and style
- A lack of policy capacity meant reliance on
groups and local authorities. This fosters the
Scottish Political System relationship (i.e.
close, coordinated consultation) - Old Westminster style in interests of ministers?
18(4) The Scottish Executive civil service is still
part of a UK-wide unified system
- 4 aspects
- culture,
- background,
- reserved issues
- attitude
19Culture
- Rhodes et al (2003)
- No matter how differentiated the UK civil service
has been, the power of the centre has been
sustained by transfers. Devolution did not
change anything there is a commitment in the
concordat between the Cabinet Office and the
Scottish administration to promote
interadministration mobility. A cursory
examination of the employment history of the
senior management of the Scottish Executive
reveals both local knowledge and the pull of
Whitehall.
20However
- Mobility never high and spells in Whitehall were
short - Scottish Office dominated by Scots
- Interchanges less desirable more access to
policy work in Scotland secondment to private
sector better for portfolio? - Mixed evidence 4/10 in Rhodes table had
Whitehall experience, but included 2 Perm Secs - In 2004, only 22, but 34 if extend to heads of
group - High external appointment rate in health
countered by vertical/ professional links? - 60 Scottish but 33 English, half of which moved
from Whitehall
21Shared background? Ruling class?
- 65 of heads of group and 44 of senior
management were educated in Scottish
universities. However, there is also still a
significant amount of Oxbridge education
one-third of senior management and one-quarter of
heads of group. - 3/9 (33) of senior management and 21 of heads
of group were educated privately. - 8/9 of senior management and 80 of heads of
group were men.
22Reserved matters
- Civil service is a reserved area, as is equal
opportunites - The civil service in Scotland may also have a
practical loyalty towards their respective
ministers, but an ultimate loyalty to the
Crown/ Whitehall.
23Scottish attitude to Whitehall
- a need felt by senior civil servants in Scotland
to continue to contribute to a UK policy process - Fears of being excluded from the Whitehall club
of policy formation were a dominant theme in
office thinking, and indeed the Permanent
Secretary and other staff made a point of
travelling to London to occupy visibly the place
that was left on offer at meetings of their
Whitehall counterparts. - Vehicle for Sewel motions?
24Devolved Responsibilities and Multi-level
Governance
- The approach of the Scotland Act 1998 was to
specify which matters were reserved rather than
granted. - Reserved includes
- International relations, defence, fiscal/
monetary policy, immigration, drugs and firearms,
elections company law, employment, most energy,
rail and air, social security, professions,
broadcasting, nuclear safety, abortions .
25Devolved includes
- Health
- Education and training
- Local government, social work, housing and
planning - Economic development and transport the
administration of the European Structural Funds - The law and home affairs including most civil and
criminal law and the criminal justice and
prosecution system police and prisons - The environment
- Agriculture, fisheries and forestry
- Sport and the arts
- Research and statistics in relation to devolved
matters
26 27Initial uncertainty over boundaries
- Angus Mackay on Register of Sex Offenders
- Industry and the Scotland Office
- 9/11 response
28Uncertainty reflects blurred boundaries
- Health
- Smoking
- Environment/ agriculture
- Economic
- Higher Education
- Social Work
- Law and order
- Housing
- Care for the elderly
- Cross-cutting issues
- Fuel poverty
- NB foreign affairs i.e. not all one-way
- Common to most federal systems
29Intergovernmental relations and the use of
Consultation
- Huge consultation the Scottish policy style
(CSG)? - NB
- Numbers misleading
- UK comparison
- EU influence
30Types of Consultation
- OPEN
- (1) Call for ideas - "issue paper"
- (2) Green paper or equivalent - i.e. framework/
agenda with specific questions (based on
preliminary consultation with groups) - (3) Re-consultation based on previous responses
or consultation taken after a formal evaluation
of an existing service annual review (NB
categories 4-7 will also be based on previous
consultations) - (4) Based on White Paper or equivalent (e.g.
Partnership Agreement if there is agreement on a
firm proposal) with firmer statement of intent
before final formulation stage - (5) Consultation on the implementation of policy
(including broad proposal to revise guidance
i.e. a revision of policy without legislation or
particularly formal scrutiny) - (6) Draft guidance/ regulations arising from
Acts (or draft bills for final comments) - CLOSED
31Scottish Executive Consultation Types 1999-2004
32 33How Do Interest Groups deal with Multi-Level
Governance ?
- Seeking access in Scotland dependent on ability
of Scottish Executive to influence? - Most groups address MLG by lobbying indirectly
through the Scottish Executive, maintaining links
with UK organisations and European networks or
(in fewer cases) making direct representations - Some have a dual focus
- Others have peripheral interests in Scotland
34Examples
- Business rates v other taxation devolved
business groups heavily involved, big banks less
so, whisky almost not at all, FTA exceptional - Agriculture Europeanised but influence mainly
through Scottish Executive with e.g. some NFU/
NFUS links. Different fishing strategies - BASW moves with issue
35Other examples
- Health BMA and RCN big Scottish delivery/ NHS
focus. Royal colleges UK focus. All see or
negotiate effects of WTD. - Housing/ homelessness big Scottish focus, with
awareness of reserved areas - Trades Unions slow to devolve because of
employment law? Unison an exception. STUC has
concordat on economic development, public
services but negotiates on discussions of HS
36How do executives deal with these issues?
- MLG or blurred/ shifting boundaries common to
states devolving some responsibilities but
maintaining central control in others - The difference is in how they are dealt with
- The UK arrangements are informal and between
executives - Barnett, civil service and party/ government
links help relations - 2 narratives on the arrangements
37Top-down narrative
- Lack of contact on these issues reflects UK
ministerial neglect/ disentanglement - Scotland unwilling to risk insider position
- When disputes rise to surface Scotland loses out
- E.g. AA and FPC
- Dominance reflected in default use of Sewel
motions to address legislative problems
38The Significance of Sewel Motions
- Live issue see Procedures Inquiry
- What are Sewel Motions?
- These are passed by the Scottish Parliament to
give Westminster the authority to legislate on
devolved matters - Confusion Also used to describe reverse-Sewel
procedures
39Definitions
- Westminster legislation for devolved purposes
the biggest category - Westminster legislation altering legislative
competence (NB examples of this are thin on the
ground) - Westminster legislation altering executive
competence or reverse-Sewel - Given that all of these examples are lumped
together, one may argue that Sewel motions cede
responsibility back to the UK and that they give
more powers to Scotland! - NB evolution of process/ Incidental issues
40TYPES OF SEWEL MOTION(1) Policy Uniformity,
Convenience or Expediency (3)
- Scottish Executive adopts same policy for
pragmatic reasons - Quick resolution without precluding Scottish
Parliament legislation in future - Anti-terrorism opt-outs with corruption law,
racial hatred, face coverings - Representation of People extends postal ballots
to local authorities to avoid anomaly - Sexual Offences political cowardice? NB
Parliament Act
41(2) Entangled Responsibilities (19)
- Largest category, common to federal/ devolved
systems - Crime the most common policy area
- International Criminal Court demonstrates
perceived need to take no chances with loopholes
and status of Scottish Parliament legislation - Other examples when devolved - e.g. civil and
criminal law, powers of arrest, crime prevention
meets reserved e.g. drug trafficking, money
laundering and taxation, extradition, customs and
excise. - Blurred boundaries apparent in other areas
marine safety reserved, definitions of a marine
craft devolved regulation of business
associations reserved, limited liability
partnerships devolved emergency services
devolved, the pension rights of emergency workers
operating abroad reserved, etc.
42(3) Motions which Cover UK Regulatory Bodies or
Minor Administrative Matters
- Covers UK-wide agencies (with a Scottish arm)
operating in devolved areas - E.g. FSA, FSA, CRE
- Also minor administrative
- E.g. Police secondment to tribunal
- Transfer of DSS functions to local authorities in
community care (NB expediency)
43(4) Motions which Provide for the Devolution of
Powers in the Future (9)
- Reverse-Sewel?
- Giving Scottish ministers rights to produce
subordinate legislation on approval schemes for
electronic signatures for business, the
introduction of new regulatory bodies for health
professionals, extending prescribing rights to
professions such as pharmacists and
physiotherapists, implementing the EUs landfill
directive, and the employment rights of local
authority employees.
44Page and Batey (2002)
- Why such a strong pull towards uniformity? If
Scottish position does not seem distinctive, UK
departments will offer policy to Scottish
ministers. But why would they accept?
45Why would ministers accept?
- Electoral expectations and lagging behind e.g.
Payne/ Kilshaw (the exceptions?) - A reliance on UK bodies to ensure regulatory
uniformity - To prevent regulatory arbitrage and close
loopholes in the law - To comply with EU/ international obligations such
as the ECHR (although this can be done in
Scotland) - The importance of party links and Labour
ministers natural inclination to seek or
accept uniformity
46However, such uniformity can be achieved in
Scotland. So why rely on UK?
- Blurred boundaries
- Scottish legislation open to challenge
- Expediency
- To avoid disrupting legislative timetable
- Administrative convenience (although NB change)
- Political cowardice age of consent for gay sex?
Civil partnerships?
47Sewel Motions Issues and Debates
- (1) It was originally envisaged that this
procedure would be exceptional - (2) There are about as many Sewel motions as Acts
of Parliament. - (3) The levels of (particularly SNP) opposition
to Sewel motions principle versus substance. - (4) The motions considered are small and
innocuous? - (5) The lack of scrutiny undermines new politics?
48Issues and Debates
- (6) The significance of reverse-Sewel motions
- (7) That the process should link parliament to
parliament, not executive to government. - (8) Scrutiny reserve?
- (9) What is the effect of Sewel Motions do they
hand back power to Westminster or retain some
level of Scottish control? - (10) What ought to happen if a Westminster bill
is amended in such a way that it goes beyond the
consent that was originally given in the Sewel
motion? - (11) Who initiates the motions?
- (12) The timing of the Sewel motion
49The bottom up narrative
- MLG is also an opportunity for informal influence
- Finance arrangements are conducive to autonomy
- Importance of UK power exaggerated by focussing
on a few conflicts - FPC money given up, but much more received for
housing
50continued
- Reverse Sewel continues the old Scottish Office
process of executive devolution - Many other Sewel motions are innocuous
- MLG is as much an opportunity as a constraint
- Eg the exec can exert informal influence in
Europe directly and through the UK
51Europe Mixed picture
- Strong bargaining position, own office in
Brussels - Involvement still decided by centre and examples
of success limited - Irony of formal participation
- Informal process (MLG)
52Bottom-up narrative continued
- Remember the Scottish Political System argument
- Policy decisions can be framed or reframed as
humdrum or experiments (before devolution) or as
devolved areas - Clearest example is smoking
- Now the Scottish Executive is considering
corporate manslaughter
53Combining narratives
- Sewel motions serve both executives
- Ability of Scottish Executive to go its own way
constrained by need for approval or acquiescence
(as with health safety) - Contingent nature of power / autonomy means case
study approach - Nuclear power use of devolution or executive
devolution? - Asylum and airguns informal influence?
- Malawi UK context?
54Central-local relations
- More in week 7 and 8
- Smaller scale, more personal relations
- Relations with the Scottish Office and local
authorities did not deteriorate as much as in
England despite poll tax, rate capping, CCT, etc. - Why is the relationship under strain now?