Title: Controls%20Compliance%20
1Controls Compliance Rounding the Turn The
Institute of Internal AuditorsSeptember 14, 2004
- Ed Dudley, CIA, CPA
- Retired Vice-President General Auditor-ABB
Americas
2Agenda
- Introduction Key Issues For Today
- Ed Dudley
- SOX Lessons Learned Dan Langer
- Integration of SOX 302 and 404
- Brian Appleton
- SAS 70 Considerations for SOX 404
- Nathan Prather
- Break
- Q A
- Summary of Main Points
- Ed Dudley
3Key Controls Compliance Issues for Today
- Approach to Convergent regulatory challenges
- Process Improvements
- Technology Infrastructure Enhancements
- Improvements in Leadership
- Inventorying in 302/404
4Key Controls Compliance Issues for Today
- Role Clarifications in SOX 302/404
- Software Utilization in SOX 302/404
- Resource Issues in SOX 302/404
- Inventorying Service Organizations/Specialists in
SAS 70
5Key Controls Compliance Issues for Today
- Understanding/Evaluating Significance in SAS 70
- Evaluating Evidence in SAS 70
6Controls Compliance Rounding the TurnSOX
Lessons Learned
- Daniel B. Langer, CPA, CIA, CCSA
- Solutions Director, Internal Audit and Controls
- Jefferson Wells International
-
710-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- Four Main Categories
- Efficient and better organized approach to
convergent regulatory challenges - Process improvements
- Technology infrastructure enhancements
- Leadership improvements
- Helpful reference resources
810-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 1) Established Post-404 Compliance Infrastructure
- Improved/strengthened internal audit department
- Full-time/dedicated ongoing compliance team,
Steering Committee, and external resources where
appropriate - Formally trained process owners
- Instituted ongoing risk-assessment strategy
- Established desk-top procedures and sub-process
certifications
910-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 2) Beware of too many internal controls
- Excessive detail when documenting internal
controls - Try to replace multiple ineffective controls with
one effective control - 3) Excessive detail when documenting internal
controls - Use external auditor formulas as a guide
- Evaluate as attestation process progresses
1010-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 4) Strive for the right Tone at the Top
- Focus
- Direction
- Top management commitment to good
governance-related control compliance - Proactive education and awareness
- 5) Side-step confusion related to IT and internal
controls - Assess system access controls as users are
promoted, transferred, or leave the company - Properly define and document SOX-related controls
(not all IT controls)
1110-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 6) Make the right compliance software investment
- To date quality has been spotty, has not met
organization needs, and/or implementation
resources have been inadequate - Revisit as sustaining organization needs are
defined
1210-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 7) Manage external auditor demands
- Avoid time-consuming attestation reviews
- Ensure they provide proper resources on your
reviews - Manage expectations/establish position
- Materiality levels
- Key accounts
- of Controls
1310-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 8) Address external service provider key controls
Focus - Strength of service provider
- Adequacy of documentation
- Pooled review with other customers
- 9) Consider compliance in the context of
governance and risk management - Ongoing process of enterprise-level risk
assessment
1410-Step Program for Clarity and Sustainability
- 10) Properly staff the Internal Audit function
- Proper mix of industry, financial, operational,
and technology practice experience and expertise
15- So, how best can Internal Audit effectively
participate in improving the reporting process
towards better governance and sustainable control
compliance?
16Internal Auditors Role
- Educate all levels about controls
- Ongoing assessment of the Tone at the Top
- Facilitate Board, key management, and external
auditor involvement in communication of
strengthened control expectations - Provide objective and independent participation
in controls documentation, testing and assessment
process - Analyze and evaluate causes of company-wide
non-compliance issues both systemic or isolated - Conduct regular KPI monitoring
- Facilitate cost beneficial design modifications
to achieve control - Evaluate effectiveness of corrective actions on
an enterprise-wide basis
17Internal Auditors Role
- Ask yourself good questions
- Would you have prepared the financials in the
same manner? - Was there full disclosure had you been an
investor? - Are internal audit procedures the same as if you
were CEO? - Are there any activities to move revenue or
expenses from period-to-period?
Warren Buffet, Berkshire Hathaway
18Governance Organizations
- www.theiia.org - Institute of Internal Auditors
- www.pcaobus.org - Public Company Accounting
Oversight Board - www.coso.org - Committee of Sponsoring
Organizations - www.nyse.com - New York Stock Exchange
- www.nacdonline.org - National Association of
Corporate Directors - www.issproxy.com - Institutional Shareholder
Services - www.ecgi.org - European Corporate Governance
Institute - www.icgn.org - International Corporate Governance
Network - www.asx.com.au/ - Australian Stock Exchange
- www.oecd.org Organization for Economic
Co-operation and Development - www.ifac.org - International Federation of
Accountants - www.icaew.co.uk - Institute of Chartered
Accountants in England and Wales - www.oceg.org - Open Compliance and Ethics Group
19Integration of SOX 302 404
Brian T. Appleton, CIA, MBA, CDP Director of
Internal Audit National Penn Bancshares
20This is the Time
- Take an inventory
- Budget considerations
- Role clarification
- Software utilization
- Human resources
- Integration
21Take an Inventory
- Review SOX 302 404 methodology
- Overlay risk based work with SOX 302 404 work
- Full consideration to SOX 302 404 in annual
risk analysis - Minimum - tentative 2005 audit plan
22Budget Considerations
- Schedule resource needs
- Do not understate resource needs
- Educate Audit Committee, CEO, and Executives on
needs - Manage your resource network
23Role Clarification
- Identify roles for ongoing compliance with
Sarbanes-Oxley compliance. Include other company
initiatives in the matrix. These may include CSA
or ERM. - Consider forming a transition team
- Revisit your resource needs calculation and
encourage management to do the same.
24Software Utilization
- Business need or purpose
- Tracking
- Maintenance
- Infrastructure compatibility
- Cost benefit
- Implementation plan
25Human Resources
- Leadership
- Continual improvement
- Staff development
- Customer satisfaction
- Audit results
- Key performance indicators
- Standards
26Integration
- Range of integration varies
- What are other companies doing?
27Summary
- Inventory and integrate
- Revisit software support
- Develop HR, elevate standards
28Evaluating Third Parties SAS 70 Considerations
for SOX 404
- Nathan Prather
- Manager, Audit and Enterprise Risk Services
- Deloitte Touche LLP
29Agenda
- Evaluating Third Parties
- Step 1 Prepare Inventory Of Service
Organizations and Specialists - Step 2 Gain Understanding/Evaluate Significance
- Step 3 Obtain Evidence
- Step 4 Concluding
- SAS 70 Issues and Considerations
- QA
30Step 1 Prepare Inventory Of Service
Organizations and Specialists
- Identify third party involvement in relevant
processes which involve the use of service
providers and specialists - Definitions
- Service organization An entity that provides
services to a user organization that is part of
the user organizations information system - Specialist A person (or Firm) possessing
special skill or knowledge in a particular field
31Step 1 Prepare Inventory Of Service
Organizations and Specialists Summary
Evaluate User Controls? Evaluate Third Party Controls?
Service organization Yes Yes, if relevant
Specialist Yes No
- Specialist Key Considerations
- Evaluate the competence of the specialist
- Understand nature and scope of the work
performed - Key control considerations
- Appropriateness of methods and assumptions
- Accuracy and completeness of data provided
- Reasonableness and recording of the results
32Step 2 Gain Understanding/Evaluate Significance
- Gain an understanding of the service organization
process flows and controls - Review SAS 70 or perform walkthrough of service
organization - Gain an understanding of the user organization
process, controls and monitoring activities - Conclude whether service organization activities
and controls necessary to achieving a user
control objective(s)
33Step 2 Gain Understanding/Evaluate Significance
- When are user controls alone sufficient?
- If the control performed by the service
organization were not outsourced, would the
control be necessary to achieving a control
objective(s) - Detective/monitoring controls at the user
organization should operate at an appropriately
detailed level to conclude that a control
objective is met
34Step 3 Obtain Evidence
- Determine if the scope of the SAS 70 is
appropriate - Type 1 SAS 70 addresses design of controls
- Type 2 SAS 70 addresses design and operating
effectiveness of controls - Map controls at service organization to risks and
controls objectives for the user organization - Business process controls
- Information technology controls
35Step 3 Obtain Evidence
- Determine if the nature and extent of testing
appropriate - Treatment of user controls identified in the SAR
- Determine relevance
- Test of relevant controls
- Determine if the period of coverage is
appropriate - Cover a sufficient period to conclude the
controls are operating effectively - Depends on the frequency and nature of the
controls - Evaluate the need to update or roll forward
36Step 4 Concluding
- Read the conclusions within the SAS70 for
qualifying language - The service auditors opinion section
- If exceptions are noted in the SAS70
- Evaluate the impact of the deficiency to the user
organization - Quantitative and qualitative aspects
- Consider compensating controls
- Make inquiries of Service Organization
37SAS 70 Issues Considerations
- What if the service organization will not provide
access to obtain evidence directly or a suitable
SAS 70? - Current thinking
- SEC precludes management from qualifying their
report - If management cant get a SAS 70 management will
need to perform procedures at the service
organization - If management is unable to access to the service
organization, they need to be able to demonstrate
that user controls alone are sufficient - If user controls are then insufficient management
will need to determine if they have a deficiency
in their control environment
38SAS 70 Issues Considerations
- What if the Service Organization will not
remediate exceptions? - Management will need to install mitigating user
controls
39Q A
40Summary of Main Points
- Establish a Post 404 Compliance Infrastructure
- Consider the possibility of too many internal
controls - Beware of excessive documentation detail
- Side-step confusion related to IT internal
controls
41Summary of Main Points
- Make Right Compliance Software Decisions
- Manage External Auditor Demands
- Compliance should be Considered within the Needs
of Governance Risk - Inventory Integrate Work within SOX 302/404
42Summary of Main Points
- Revisit Software Support for SOX 302/404
- Strive for Continual Improvement within SOX
302/404 - Identify Third Party Involvement Processes for
Possible SAS 70 - Understand Service Organizations Process Flow
Controls
43Summary of Main Points
- Understand User Organizations Process Flows,
Controls Monitoring - Determine Appropriate Scope of SAS 70(Type 2 for
both design operating effectiveness) - Evaluate Impact of Deficiency in Any Exceptions
from SAS 70 Performed
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